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Another protruding camera, how disappointing. I do wonder how artists use the iPad Pro with a protruding camera as it rocks back and forward on a flat surface. Maybe it requires a case to be used?
I know you're being sarcastic, yet you failed to include a wink or a "/s". For the record, it doesn't rock. That's clear from the hands on reviews.
 
I know you're being sarcastic, yet you failed to include a wink or a "/s". For the record, it doesn't rock. That's clear from the hands on reviews.
No sarcasm. I would have imagined it would wobble or rock on a flat surface as one corner is raised leaving two corners floating. Protruding camera in any event is unsightly. Please fix, Apple.
 
The iPad is great for work on the go as long as I always have the option if using an OS X machine for that last bit that's too much for the iPad.

As a side note, I really like the execution of Apple's keyboard, but I don't like the feel of it. Perhaps I need to give it another go.

Felt the same way about he keyboard at first touch when I was trying to play with it in the car since I couldn't wait to get home. Though, after getting home and getting the chance to use it I actually started to enjoy it very quickly and felt no different from a normal keyboard (minus a smaller backspace button and fabric of course). I would say give it another go if you plan on doing any kind of long typing.
 
And then they get hammered for "going too long between product releases" and "lack of innovation". They can't win.

Sure Apple can win just as it did w/ iPod, iTunes Music Store, iMac, original iPhone after price chop, iPad 2 -- release interesting updates @ digestible (vs super luxury) prices.

But if it's updates are confined to new colors, hardware tweaks, software feature additions limited to specific models or combination of these, and at increased prices for no discernible reason, then sure, Apple can't & should not win.

Apple set it's own high bar making product people didn't even know they wanted until Apple showed it off. So I don't think it's unreasonable if we Apple fans hold it to that high standard. Ted Williams would just be above avg baseball player if hit .344 for one season but had a lifetime avg of .298. It's his lifetime .344 that made him extraordinary.
 
I bought one but will return it on Monday. I came to realize I strongly prefer the iPad mini, which is just so much more portable and pleasant to use. Hoping for a "mini pro" next year.
 
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I had an iPad Air 2, and I don't know if I'd consider this one a "major improvement", but it is an improvement that's for sure.

Agree. It's incremental just like every 9.7 model before it except the iPad2 which was a major improvement over the original.

To suggest the Pro is a major improvement means either the Air2 was greatly lacking or the Pro is well advanced. I don't see where either is true. Air2 is mostly great & still very relevant. Pro has added functionality, improved screen, and latest chip. All great to have, but not that far off from it's predecessor.
 
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The True Tone display, unique to the 9.7-inch iPad Pro, is getting some rave reviews, but not all iPad Pro owners are fans of the yellowing of the display. Patriot24 says it's "insanely great," but BitSlap says he prefers bright and crisp whites. On the whole, most readers seem to like the feature quite a bit.

I'm all for this tech for casual use, just like Night Shift, but on a "Pro" device, I'm not really sure I understand why anyone working with graphics and layouts would want their colors distorted. Considering this tech isn't available on the 12.9" model, it does seem to imply it's targeted at consumers along with the 9.7" size.
 
I'm all for this tech for casual use, just like Night Shift, but on a "Pro" device, I'm not really sure I understand why anyone working with graphics and layouts would want their colors distorted. Considering this tech isn't available on the 12.9" model, it does seem to imply it's targeted at consumers along with the 9.7" size.

As someone who's just been getting into photography (and just bought a really nice camera and an expensive Adobe RGB monitor for my desktop), I can't stand True Tone and have turned it off. I spend a long time tweaking the colors in my photos and I really like using the iPad for viewing photos, so I don't want the colors distorted. Night Shift is okay, because I don't mind it being yellowed for the brief time I use my iPad before bed. But True Tone, while good for people who don't care much about photography or graphics, isn't going to work for me.

Also, Night Shift is just one change at a designated time. But with TrueTone I was very aware that the screen was changing just while moving the iPad around my house, and that bugged me. It was like "hey, wasn't this more yellow a few minutes ago?"
 
I would get this 9.7" Pro, but I already have the larger Pro and love it. I'm sure others don't already have a 13" Pro, but if you do, and that's the right size for you, then no, just no.

P.S. I wouldn't eliminate the speed and screen benefits of the Pro just because your only uses are the Internet and apps... that pretty much covers everything.
I have an iPad Air and Galaxy Note 12.2. I have been looking at the Pro 12 and now 9.7.

Do you use it for work? That's my main focus along with Movie watching on Flights.
 
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I think the reviews claiming it's a major improvement over the Air 2 are stretching it just a little bit. Once you let the hype die off you'll find many of the improvements rather trivial. IMO.


For many, especially if one wants to draw with the Pencil, the improvements are huge. There's also the much better display with wider color gamut, significantly faster A9X processor, better speakers, TrueTone display technology, better 12 megapixel back camera, and better 5 megapixel front camera.
 
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I was really excited about the 9.7 pro however I wanted to see if how the 12.9 was.
The 12.9 has grown on me despite its extra weight.
Seeing some of the features in the new 9.7 I am looking forward to upgrading the 12.9 when the time comes.
Not sure the latest and greatest 9.7 will be in my list of toys as the 12.9 is starting to become my go to device.
 
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Not enough of a leap for me to ditch my Air 2 and make it four annual iPad upgrades in a row.

Most of all, the storage and pricing make the Pro a rip off. It's £499 for a 32GB 9.7 Pro, but the 64GB iPad Air 2 was only £479. So Apple have halved the storage and added £20 onto the price. The new features simply don't justify that, in my opinion.

It reeks of trying to charge more for less using the "Pro" tag. An iPad Air 3 would have had a faster CPU/GPU anyway, so halfing the storage and adding keyboard/pencil support while charging £20 more than the 64GB Air 2 at launch is just a rip off.
 
And then they get hammered for "going too long between product releases" and "lack of innovation". They can't win.
That's true. But I believe the problem is due to dependency of iPad series and iPhones. Can't they sell these products like 1.5 years to 2 years?
 
I'm all for this tech for casual use, just like Night Shift, but on a "Pro" device, I'm not really sure I understand why anyone working with graphics and layouts would want their colors distorted. Considering this tech isn't available on the 12.9" model, it does seem to imply it's targeted at consumers along with the 9.7" size.

Whilst I see your point - I'd happily welcome this mixed-messaging if it meant products came with useful features like True Tone rather than withhold them for the sake of simplifying messaging.

That said - "Pro" can refer to professions outside of just graphics etc. or roles where colour accuracy is vital - the Smart Keyboard suggests it has a great position in the writing-space, where reduced eye-strain from TrueTone is surely welcome.
 
Thanks for the info about the speakers. They drive me insane on my iPad Air 2 ever since I had three(!) replacements because of defective speakers. Imagining that I have four vibrating speakers keeps me from buying this iteration.

Oh come on, Apple, just fix the speaker thing.
 
Huge improvement over the Air 2 for me. The screen, the speakers, the speed, all improved and make the iPad experience that much better. Worthwhile upgrade for sure.

Excluding the pencil and keyboard, how much of an improvement can it be?

I'm personally considering getting a 9.7 Pro to get pencil support, but other than that I really don't see why someone would consider the 9.7 Pro over the Air 2 at that price. The iPad 2, yeah the non retina one, is still the most used model for a reason.
 
Protruding camera = no buy.
Apple seems to be favouring the protruding lens for some reason meaning protruding lens potentially = no buy for a fair while assuming you were looking to otherwise buy a newer model.

It looks good with the smart cover snug fit around it, but with it off it's nothing I find my eye drifting towards, because it's on the back and the iPad lay flush with no movement when placed on a flat surface.

To me that seems a tenuous thing to base a purchase on given a protruding lens is not something that's affecting either my use or enjoyment. Different strokes I guess.
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Not enough of a leap for me to ditch my Air 2 and make it four annual iPad upgrades in a row.

Most of all, the storage and pricing make the Pro a rip off. It's £499 for a 32GB 9.7 Pro, but the 64GB iPad Air 2 was only £479. So Appl
I agree, if you're already an iPad Air 2 owner, especially 128gb model owner I wouldn't jump on the upgrade, however as a customer totally new to iPad (like me) ... L it's a good first iPad .. ;)

The RAM thing mentioned around feels a non-issue to me too. This thing is zippy enough in real world use, and the benchmarks I saw so far are actually close to the 12.9in pro in spite of the RAM. Fewer pixels to drive or whatever.. Or maybe I'm trying to justify all the money I just spent. You'll be the judge I guess :p
 
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As someone who's just been getting into photography (and just bought a really nice camera and an expensive Adobe RGB monitor for my desktop), I can't stand True Tone and have turned it off. I spend a long time tweaking the colors in my photos and I really like using the iPad for viewing photos, so I don't want the colors distorted. Night Shift is okay, because I don't mind it being yellowed for the brief time I use my iPad before bed. But True Tone, while good for people who don't care much about photography or graphics, isn't going to work for me.

Also, Night Shift is just one change at a designated time. But with TrueTone I was very aware that the screen was changing just while moving the iPad around my house, and that bugged me. It was like "hey, wasn't this more yellow a few minutes ago?"

Aren't your colors distorted anyway if watching the screen under a non white balanced lightiing?
Isn't that the whole point of this?
If you have neutral lighting, you don't need it of course.
 
"but Cakefish points out that the speakers are prone to vibrating at high volume levels, much like the iPad Air 2"

There is a bit of vibration at maximum levels BUT who's using their iPad at maximum sound?

Couldn't be happier with my purchase.

Even if they are doing that, it's just the law of physics.

Sound = air vibrations, and it spreads in all directions.
 
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Maybe when my iPad 2 with Retina display wears out.

That will be a long, slow, annoying death (unless you drop it). I still have an iPad Retina (I think the first gen), and I just freaking hate it. It's so slow now to be almost unusable on iOS9. But it still works, so that makes it hard to justify dropping $600 on a new device when I just grab it for light use web and email.

If I could I would downgrade to iOS6, where it used to be silky smooth - now it's just an annoying pile of crap.
 
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Excluding the pencil and keyboard, how much of an improvement can it be?

I'm personally considering getting a 9.7 Pro to get pencil support, but other than that I really don't see why someone would consider the 9.7 Pro over the Air 2 at that price. The iPad 2, yeah the non retina one, is still the most used model for a reason.

Well as I listed, the screen is a huge upgrade. Much better color, less reflectivity, and true tone is great. iPad is all about the screen so I'd rather have the best available screen. The speakers are awesome also. I listen to a lot of music and watch movies using my iPad and the improved sound is perfect for me. In terms of speed, everything just feels faster, loading webpages, games, animations are smoother. It's the best iPad out there, might as well enjoy it.
 
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