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970 Machines Assembled/Sealed?

Re: Re: Re: Powerbooks

Originally posted by mcs37
Ummm.... well you're kind of wrong here. The 1.2 GHz PPC 970 only requires 19W of power, whereas a 1 GHz G4 requires over 22 W of power. So you'd actually get better performance and longer battery life.
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Steve did say it was the year of the laptop. Let's all hope he was understating it :)

Apple has been suffering "supply issues" from Motorola basicly since day one. It will be interesting to see Apple Computer function as a company when they can actually get the full quantity and speed of chips they order.

There will still be a bit of bleeding edge technology desire by the top dog at Apple but at least the bottom and the middle will no longer suffer big supply stoppages.

Rocketman
 
Originally posted by areyouwishing
The benchmarks from MacBoo don't say anything about "PowerMac" or any apple reference (at least that i saw), only "PPC 970" This allows them A LOT of wiggle room, everyone knows that IBM is also making 970 Machines for the low-end server market, what if they were using IBM machines to run these benchmarks, in order to do so though, you would have to run Mac on Linux or be running a PowerPC version of windows (not very likely).
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But that would also mean that the IBM boxes would run Mac Software. I don't think this is the case.

It might just mean that they're not giving away the new name of the next Apple - making it harder for Apple to figure out who or where the leaks are coming from.

D
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: So what are they called ?

Originally posted by Jimmni
I don't think so. I think Apple needs to get themselves some new hype around these machines. If they have new machines that match the PC world, they'll want everyone to know they're new and different. Extreme is rubbish, as is 64 (remember the N64? That worked well for it, huh?). Gx has bad connotations for many people. I think we can expect completely new names. Quite possibly changing even the PowerMac part. People see PowerMacs as slow. Apple doesn't want to stay stuck in the desktop rut, and a name change to something Apple-sounding but new would be a good idea, marketing wise. And this is a serious jump... These machines will be nearly as far from the PowerMacs as the PowerMacs were from the 68k Macs... (Let's not get into an argument about how right that is... You get what I mean).

Maybe.

- Jimmni :rolleyes:
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Re "I think we can expect completely new names. Quite possibly changing even the PowerMac part.", yes, let's fervently hope so. Any XXX for Power Mac XXX will be kind of lame. I thought I'd come up with the lamest with "Extreme", but nope, "Pro" would be even lamer. ('cause aren't all Power Macs already supposed to be Pro machine?) The safest is just to leave it as "Power Mac", as boring as that would be.
 
Apple has issued a cease and desist notice to Think Secret for the iSync 1.1 romour.
If Mac french is so accurate on this why haven't they been warned off?
Don't want to pour cold water on this but I have a bad feeling.

Could this all be about IBM boxes?
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Powerbooks

Originally posted by Rocketman
Apple has been suffering "supply issues" from Motorola basicly since day one. It will be interesting to see Apple Computer function as a company when they can actually get the full quantity and speed of chips they order.
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Amen. Well, IBM is a great company and can easily meet the requirements that Apple puts on it. If it's true in recent rumors that IBM is shipping a hundred thousand PPC970 chips to Apple manufacturers, that's a pretty good sign that we're on the money.
 
Translation from the site...

Before arriving at the heart of the subject, remember that what follows is a rumour, without tangible proof. However if we chose to publish it, it is that it has very good chances to be true.

First Computers PPC 970 left the production lines and are even already packed on pallets. Pallets are covered with the opaque and sealed film. There are above stickers with following information:

"tamper proof seal, confidential property inside, prosecution may result personal yew opened by unauthorized"

They will start to be delivered to the wholesalers of confidence very soon with absolute order of not to be opened before June 23. APPLE had already used this method during launching of the Cube and more recently of the iMac G4.
 
boy, this sure seems page 2 to me. very speculative, and odd. i mean, it's still almost a month till WWDC. why would they get them ready so soon so they can sit there while apple discovers problems they'll wish they could have fixed? i wouldn't have put them together so fast. this doesn't seem like a good idea to me (and hence i doubt this rumor greatly).
 
New Computer Name

My 6500 replaced an older Performa 630CD. I bought my closed-out discontinued and left-over new PowerMac 6500/250 in Feb 1998.
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I bought my closed-out discontinued new QuickSilver 733 in Feb 2002.
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Probably, I will be buying a closed-out discontinued new "WHAT?" in Feb 2006?
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WHATever my QuickSilver's replacement is gonna be called, it has to feel three times faster than the QuickSilver. Not just a number on some pocket protected geekster's specification sheet obtained in a vacuum in a laboratory.:cool:
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Here is how Steve could name the computer: Collect all of Lisa's alphabet blocks into a bucket, then toss all of the blocks onto the floor allowing the cat to chase the blocks. Whatever the cat rounds-up, that's the name of the next computer.:rolleyes:
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JJ :D
 
Originally posted by areyouwishing
not necessarily...

http://www.maconlinux.org/faq.html

ANY PPC Chip will run OS X
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Very interesting indeed - but is this a PPC Chip since its a 64bit CPU and that Apple has had to redo the whole mobo. Would MOL be able to run on a IBM 970 box running linux?

Cool though, and I'll have to tell a few friends of mine about this software. Thanks,

D
 
Re: Re: 970 Chips in Powerbooks?

Originally posted by mcs37
Apple is a company known for innovation and surprises, so who knows if their past track record has any bearing on the future.

The 15" AlBooks are something that makes it more interesting to talk about. What we do "know" is that the 15" AlBooks underwent a huge motherboard redesign back at the turn of the year. And it's been a long time since a 15" AlBook has come out.
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What? There has not been an Aluminum Powerbook 15" yet. What the hell?

:confused:
 
Re: New Computer Name

Originally posted by JJTiger1
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Here is how Steve could name the computer: Collect all of Lisa's alphabet blocks into a bucket, then toss all of the blocks onto the floor allowing the cat to chase the blocks. Whatever the cat rounds-up, that's the name of the next computer. ...
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Yay! The new Power Mac Cvajkqr! :) At least it's better than Extreme :p
 
Originally posted by Shadowfax
boy, this sure seems page 2 to me. very speculative, and odd. i mean, it's still almost a month till WWDC. why would they get them ready so soon so they can sit there while apple discovers problems they'll wish they could have fixed? i wouldn't have put them together so fast. this doesn't seem like a good idea to me (and hence i doubt this rumor greatly).
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well the rumor says they are ready to be shipped to wholesalers soon. That means another 2-3 weeks before resellers can get them in stock. So the lag is only a week or two before June 23. The timing seems OK. But Apple has never been right on schedule with anything. The timing here seems too good to be true.
 
:D Here's my shot at what's happening.

We're gonna see a whole 970 family. I wonder that there while be a family name change too ... however I doubt that.

The megahertz posted here and there I agree with since it makes sense.

I see 970 15" powerbooks too. Hey, where are they already? Probably a boost in the 17" and 12" versions too. dual??? hehe, I wish.

iBook is what is bothering me here ... The newest casing basically eats doo-doo. It feels like it's plastic, while my 700 14" iBook is much more sturdier. I imagine that either a IBM based G4 will go into the iBooks since the eMac is already a student machine.

I don't imagine the iBooks, towers and powerbook will be upgraded together since Apple will milk the markets BUT ... school is going to start in September. So, Apple releases version 1 of 970 products and by the time school is ready to start products will be in the channels fully.

interesting is that I expect panther to come in June too. Why not?

And yes, I imagine that the towers will be Ai or at least similar looking to xserve.
:eek: ahh bore. My iBook draws attention from the ladies while powerbook users are magnets for the "gates" types ;)


Why depend on rumor sites? If you think about it ... you'll have rev 1 machines that will solve the warping problems ... but still have mouse ports on the left hand side and cd slots where your mouse sits :p
 
rev A will have problems. my credit card is waiting for sometime in early/mid '04 when the rev B's come out. But i still can't wait for the announcement of the new chips. That will be a great day for apple. Mmmmmmmm.... chips (drools like Homer)
 
Supermac!

Originally posted by dongmin
Xstation has also been bandied about, although it's rumored to be for a new workstation-type machine.
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I think a whole new name would be a good idea. I think Xstation sounds too Xbox/Playstation like though. How about Supermac? However I don't think they are going to abandon the powermac name, apple, very seldom abandons a brand.
 
Originally posted by moyashi
[BiBook is what is bothering me here ... The newest casing basically eats doo-doo. It feels like it's plastic, while my 700 14" iBook is much more sturdier. I imagine that either a IBM based G4 will go into the iBooks since the eMac is already a student machine.

I don't imagine the iBooks, towers and powerbook will be upgraded together since Apple will milk the markets BUT ... school is going to start in September. So, Apple releases version 1 of 970 products and by the time school is ready to start products will be in the channels fully.

interesting is that I expect panther to come in June too. Why not?

And yes, I imagine that the towers will be Ai or at least similar looking to xserve.
:eek: ahh bore. My iBook draws attention from the ladies while powerbook users are magnets for the "gates" types ;)

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You know what i could see happening, is a discontinuation of the ibook line altogether when they come out with 970 notebooks. All they need to do is add a 14" G4...the 12" and 14" aibooks would replace the ibooks. Then they would have the 15" and 17" 970 powerbooks for the upper end....apple is starting to get away from the lovely white, and over to the brushed metal look(ack!)
 
Originally posted by Shadowfax
boy, this sure seems page 2 to me. very speculative, and odd. i mean, it's still almost a month till WWDC. why would they get them ready so soon so they can sit there while apple discovers problems they'll wish they could have fixed? i wouldn't have put them together so fast. this doesn't seem like a good idea to me (and hence i doubt this rumor greatly).
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You have a good point there -- but remember Apple was seriously burned by the lack of G4 iMac supplies during the first three months after its introduction. It makes perfect sense to me for them to have these machines stockpiled and ready for the distribution channels on the very day they are announced. Fast out of the gate matters.

The only thing that bothers me about this rumor is the X-factor -- 10.3. Maybe I've made a poor assumption, but I thought 10.3 was the minimum OS for the PPC 970 machines, and it's not even scheduled to be announced officially until WWDC. Is it possible Apple will also ship 10.3 in June? How else can these facts and rumors be reconciled?
 
Actually, I'm certain the iBooks will stick around. Why? Because the Aluminums are way too fragile to be used in schools and other high-traffic places. I've got carts fill of iceBooks, and they take a SERIOUS beating without missing a... beat... =) They do need a more durable, throw-it-in-your-backpack computer for at least the education market.
 
Originally posted by JtheLemur
Actually, I'm certain the iBooks will stick around. Why? Because the Aluminums are way too fragile to be used in schools and other high-traffic places.
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I thought the AlBooks were supposed to be more durable cuz of the anodized aluminium case? Are they damage prone?
 
Originally posted by Winston Smith
Apple has issued a cease and desist notice to Think Secret for the iSync 1.1 romour.
If Mac french is so accurate on this why haven't they been warned off?
Don't want to pour cold water on this but I have a bad feeling.
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First, I assume that MacBadoodaldoo is in France. Therefore, there is no court in the US from which Apple could get an TRO or injunction. I know very little about the French legal system (aside from what I learned in my Compaitive International Law course), so I don't know how easy it would be for Apple to get some sort of writ (of course, it wouldn't be a writ outside of an English-speaking nation) to stop MacBabbette from posting these rumors.

That aside, I am dubious about these rumors. I have no factual basis for this doubt, but few of us have factual bases for anything we're saying in this thread. I hope they're true...

I guess we'll see in a month.
 
Originally posted by IJ Reilly
Is it possible Apple will also ship 10.3 in June? How else can these facts and rumors be reconciled?
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By a very long, very exciting SteveNote, that's how! :D

And can we please stop with the "Apple's going to use Opteron!" rumors? Ain't gonna happen. Every line of every program out there, both in X and 9, would have re-written. Coming on the heels of the conversion to X, this would mean a revolt by every single developer Apple has.
 
FWIW-

I spoke to an Apple rep this weekend at my local store. He insisted that I wait until after the WWDC before I think about buying a new PowerMac.

I'm convinced the new machines will indeed be announced at WWDC.
 
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