All 2017 iPhone Models Said to Include Standard 5W USB-A Adapter, With Wireless Charger Sold Separately

[DoctorTech]

I am not convinced touch ID is going away but if it is replaced by facial recognition, it will be interesting to see what the courts do regarding law enforcement ordering someone to unlock their phones for a search. There are currently conflicting court rulings on the subject. One court ruled that a person cannot be made to type in their passcode without a search warrant because that would be an unreasonable search. However, a different court has ruled law enforcement can compel someone to put their finger on the finger print sensor because that is not an unreasonable search. To the best of my knowledge, there have not been any rulings about making someone look at their phone.

 

[69Mustang]

Yes, and my opinion is mine. Why is that not welcome? Why does it have to get jumped on by the community just because I don't auto drop on my knees and take it and pretend to like it if I have arguments for me personally why I wouldn't want it? Does my post say I feel I *have* to buy it, or that i am *forced* to take ? ..
I am sharing an opinion that I personally don't feel it's actually wireless, or an added convenience.
I know if I post "does it not even get released in rose gold" that I will get 500 likes, .. but I am not here to pat you on the back. Just giving an opinion. There's no need for you guys to give me such a hard time over it. I am not aiming for the most epic, most cheap, best performance phone and all the features I want OR ELSE. I am replying to the topic at hand, giving my opinion, just like everybody else. Like I don't know it most likely will be a step in between what we might desire or wish things would do. But my point is that why would I pretend to like it, if it takes away convenience and I'd have to pay for a compromise that doesn't even feel wireless to me. SORRY if those sorts of real life usage situations are not welcome here, that there is no space here for this sort of thinking.

Bud... not sure who pee'd in your cereal, but why the heck are you over reacting? You posted an opinion in an internet forum. People are going to have opinions about your opinion. Some are going to agree with it, some aren't. It's the raison d'etre for forums. Also I'm not sure who "you guys" are. Nor am I sure what the "500 likes" is about. I have a feeling I'm missing something.

 

[ThisBougieLife]

Everyone here is going to buy this phone and say it's the greatest phone ever. That's what happens every time, so why would this time be any different? I'm not convinced there's anything Apple would do that would make people truly think this is a bad phone.

 

[iModFrenzy]

Ugh. See, you're one of the annoying guys who wants to stick with old tech even though the new stuff is WAY better. There's nothing about USB-A that is better than USB-C.

Annoying guys? Seriously? Maybe we don’t wanna use adapters for every single device we own or waste cash that could be put to better use. I don’t need new stuff- my old stuff works just fine. My Core 2 Duo MBP works great actually! Oh better yet why don’t I tell you about my 6 Core 12 Thread Xeon X5650 with 22gbs of Ram and a nice GTX 960! What’s even better is my X5650 actually benchmarks pretty close to your “new” tech, and guess what- it’s from 2010!

 

[askep3]

Well-regarded KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo this morning released a note for investors in which he made 10 predictions related to the three iPhones slated for release in 2017, including the elimination of Touch ID in the "iPhone 8."

We've now gotten our hands on Kuo's full note, and it includes several additional details that were not covered in our original post.

iPhone 8 renders from iDrop News​

First and foremost, on the topic of Touch ID, Kuo's note clearly says the iPhone 8 will not support fingerprint recognition, a prediction some MacRumors readers thought was ambiguous in the first post based on the included wording. Direct from the note:Kuo's claim has since been backed up by Bloomberg in a report suggesting Touch ID will be replaced by advanced facial recognition technology in the iPhone 8, lending more credence to Kuo's prediction.

A second tidbit suggests the iPhone 8 and its companion devices, the "iPhone 7s" and the "iPhone 7s Plus" will all adopt glass bodies with metal frames to facilitate WPC-standard wireless charging functionality. WPC-standard refers to the Wireless Power Consortium, which supports the Qi wireless charging functionality built into many Android devices.

According to Kuo, wireless charging will be enabled through an optional accessory that will be purchased alongside the new iPhones -- it won't be a default feature available out of the box. Qi wireless charging is in line with rumors that have predicted the iPhone 8 will support inductive charging rather than a true wireless charging feature.

An example of a Qi wireless charging solution​

Kuo also believes that while the iPhone 8 will include an embedded USB-C power delivery IC for higher charging efficiency, it will continue to ship with the same 5W power adapter equipped with a USB-A port that's included with iPhones today. A USB-A to Lightning cable will also be included as a standard accessory.

That deviates from a prediction made by Barclays analyst Blayne Curtis, who last week said the iPhone 8 would come bundled with a 10W power adapter with a USB-C connector.

Kuo's final prediction has to do with the RAM in the three new iPhone models. The first post said that the 4.7-inch iPhone 7s would include 2GB RAM while the 5.8-inch OLED iPhone 8 and 5.5-inch iPhone 7s would include 3GB RAM, but what was left out is that he also believes the DRAM transfer speed of the three new models will be faster than the iPhone 7 by 10 to 15 percent for better AR performance.

The rest of what Kuo had to say is available in the post we shared this morning, covering predictions like limited color options, 3D sensing for facial recognition, 64 and 256GB storage options, an improved speaker system, and possible supply shortages.

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It’s odd that Apple would release wireless charging in its basic form as it has been for the last 4 years, that’s just not what they do. It has to have something that differentiates itself from the competition that’s been there for the last 4 years. There has to be some added functionality, otherwise they would have released it long ago, or would just wait until they can add said additional functionality.

 

[Maschil]

The current facial recognition is crap in other phones.

The phone that have iris scanning can't be unlocked while walking. Rather dumb and pointless.

exactly.

Everyone here is going to buy this phone and say it's the greatest phone ever. That's what happens every time, so why would this time be any different? I'm not convinced there's anything Apple would do that would make people truly think this is a bad phone.

not everyone, but generally alot of people buy phones for the newer tech, despite annoyances like lack of head phone jack etc.. I will say that Apple does cost themselves atleast alittle money by shipping some of their products with annoyances like these. Some people who would upgrade wont because of things like that.

 

[TheFluffyDuck]

Wireless charging for iPhone is like Powerbook G5 to Apple notebooks 10 years ago. It's not going to happen, for a long LONG time. I look forward to being pleasantly surprised.

 

[Jimmy Bubbles]

Brand new user looks at the manual and it says "Wireless charging and Lighting port".

Hey, you have to be able to “charge and listen to music/podcast at the same time” right?
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Wireless charging for iPhone is like Powerbook G5 to Apple notebooks 10 years ago. It's not going to happen, for a long LONG time. I look forward to being pleasantly surprised.

The future is closer than you think, my friend!

 

[Floris]

Bud... not sure who pee'd in your cereal, but why the heck are you over reacting? You posted an opinion in an internet forum. People are going to have opinions about your opinion. Some are going to agree with it, some aren't. It's the raison d'etre for forums. Also I'm not sure who "you guys" are. Nor am I sure what the "500 likes" is about. I have a feeling I'm missing something.

There's a difference between having another opinion and sharing yours and jumping on someone because it's not yours. Move on already.

 

[iansilv]

This is nothing more than junk news meant to fish out leakers. The idea of eliminating touchid is ridiculous. How would that even work? Uh-oh- lights are off- can't unlock the phone...
[doublepost=1499142925][/doublepost]Also- wireless charger is sold separately because it is a new universal standard of distance wireless charging.

 

[ShufromChina]

Maybe it will be a sensor where the front camera is, that will scan your fingerprint without touching it, just placing it over the sensor. THAT would be very welcomed.

Unless that sensor is at the bottom of the front panel. Otherwise it's a big hassle.

 

[4jasontv]

How are you supposed to unlock the phone with sunglasses on?

I wear sunglasses at night!

 

[69Mustang]

There's a difference between having another opinion and sharing yours and jumping on someone because it's not yours. Move on already.

I never jumped on you. You're being a bit overly sensitive. There's nothing derogatory nor insulting in any of my comments. Sorry if your feelings were hurt.

 

[doelcm82]

My point exactly. Are we to believe that we'll be forced to turn on a light or use flash in order to open the phone in a dark area? They must be kidding or Apple will have gone totally wacko!

You can believe that, or you can believe that the phone uses infrared or some other sensors that work in darkness. Or you can believe that the rumor is false.

Up until we hear from Apple, you can believe anything you like. Afterwards, you can continue to believe anything you like, but my recommendation is to believe the truth.

 

[PaulRustad007]

As a conspiracy theorist how about this one: They will ditch the TouchID for facial recognition in lieu of getting a pass from the FBI and NSA. So, if you are arrested, all they need to do is show your phone your face and they have everything they need! They do not need to force you to press a button...just wave the phone in your face! All your contacts, texts, apps all appear in order for the Feds and others to rifle through....and no court orders, or subpoenas to Apple for the info....

 

[tonyberinson]

I have an idea - why don't we all shut up until we actually find out from Apple what they are producing rather than speculating..
I just cant believe how much rubbish is being posted without ANYONE including the analyst - having any idea what your talking about.

Seriously OMG!

 

[Iconoclysm]

If the new iPhone does not bring us real wireless and charging and instead brings Qi charging this will be a huge disappointment, that means Apple is several years behind without any kind of improvements and there were no reason at all to not provide Qi charging for the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 7.

It doesn't necessarily mean they're behind but it means their big step forward isn't ready to go. Not sure how they can justify Qi charging though, after they've already gone on record pointing out how it's just another device/adapter to carry around...my guess is that they don't evangelize that feature, just put it out there as another option.
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Of course it will be an "optional" accessory that'll cost $20-$30.

Anything Apple can do to further nickle and dime its customers....

Customer satisfaction is at the top of the pack...

 

[freeskier93]

The facial recognition on my new Surface Pro is superb, it can be just as fast as Touch ID, although it's always consistently as fast. Using it in the dark is a non-issue because it's IR. One would assume if Apple implements facial recognition it will be at least as good as Microsoft's, which means it will probably use IR and also do an actual 3D mapping, which means it works as long as you are on the cameras FOV (no having to move your face directly over the camera).

That said I'm not sure I like the idea of completely ditching Touch ID in favor of facial recognition, but having both would be awesome.

 

[alexgowers]

My prediction is two models. Too many conflicting rumours.

One with no bezels, USB c, facial recognition and no Touch ID, fast charging and wireless charging, only comes in black to hide camera bump at top of screen. Glass front and back

2nd model has Touch ID on rear of a metal case, has reduced top and bottom bezels like the recent LG/s8. Comes in loads of colours, lighting connection. Comes in two sizes. No wireless charging.

All feature dual rear cameras like the 7plus.

Right does that make me an analyst?

 

[kdarling]

Great, so now I can't look at it at night.

My point exactly. Are we to believe that we'll be forced to turn on a light or use flash in order to open the phone in a dark area?

How on earth are folks supposed to unlock their phone in dim lighting or at night?
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What am I missing?

You're missing the fact that for close to the past century we've had electronic infrared cameras.

Have you never watched any spy or military movies, nor heard of luxury cars with "see in the dark" windshield displays? Or perhaps looked at your IR remote control with a smartphone front camera.

How are you supposed to unlock the phone with sunglasses on?

Such cameras see through sunglasses. Which is more needed for iris recognition anyway, not so much for facial.

 

[Glassed Silver]

Wow really?

Is the lube included at least?

Glassed Silver:ios

 

[natepaschall]

New iPhone is actually going to draw your blood every time you want to unlock. DNA samples for every password.

 

[BigDO]

Just lol at people claiming "conflicting" reports. Nothing confliciting whatsoever, on one hand there's a bunch of social media clowns tweeting random stuff from their parents' basement, and on the other a professional person who does this for a living, with a proven track record, making statements on behalf of a serious investment company. You decide who you're going to believe, or whether you're gonna go with the "lalalalalalala not listening" approach.

 

[BvizioN]

No touch ID. No Sale.

2016 - No headphone jack - No sale (We all know how that ended)
2017 - No TouchID - No sale (remains to be seen)

Even though I love TouchID, i trust Apple to make the right decision on a product that is the core of their business. They can't afford to screw up.

 

[KPandian1]

Yes, and my opinion is mine. Why is that not welcome? Why does it have to get jumped on by the community just because I don't auto drop on my knees and take it and pretend to like it if I have arguments for me personally why I wouldn't want it? Does my post say I feel I *have* to buy it, or that i am *forced* to take ? ..
I am sharing an opinion that I personally
There's no need for you guys to give me such a hard time over it.
I am not aiming for the most epic, most cheap, best performance phone and all the features I want OR ELSE. I am replying to the topic at hand, giving my opinion, just like everybody else. Like I don't know it most likely will be a step in between what we might desire or wish things would do. But my point is that why would I pretend to like it, if it takes away convenience and I'd have to pay for a compromise that doesn't even feel wireless to me. SORRY if those sorts of real life usage situations are not welcome here, that there is no space here for this sort of thinking.

Chill, dude!