All 2017 iPhone Models Said to Include Standard 5W USB-A Adapter, With Wireless Charger Sold Separately

[DevNull0]

Having said that, if these predictions are true, it is awful and very unlike Apple.

Why do you think it's unlike Apple. The MBP used to include a nice assortment of video output adapters as well as the power supply extension.

The current MBP finally got rid of the power extension so you get nothing. That's today's Apple. Nothing.

 

[Rigby]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I unlock my S8 all the time while walking, in total darkness, and 2 or 3 times faster than any fingerprint scanner on any phone, I can look directly at it or from an angle and it never fails.

The problem with Samsung's implementation is that it is apparently easy to spoof:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/amitch...ecognition-security-limitations/#5eb1d7381aff

We'll have to see if Apple does a better job if the rumor is true.

 

[freediverx]

If the new iPhone does not bring us real wireless and charging and instead brings Qi charging this will be a huge disappointment, that means Apple is several years behind without any kind of improvements and there were no reason at all to not provide Qi charging for the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 7.

Maybe, unless Apple comes up with a compact magnetic charger (like on the Apple Watch) instead of a bulky and clumsy plastic base like those used by Android phones.

 

[megagene]

I just want fast charging. It boggles the mind how behind Apple is when it comes to this. You can fully charge an S8 Plus from 0 to 100 more than 2 times over in the amount of time it takes to charge an iPhone 7 Plus just once.

 

[acctman]

i will bet $100 that the wireless charging device will NOT!!!! be available at launch... probably like 1-2 months later and will be impossible to purchase. not to mention a ridiculous price tag will be attached to it.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

As I have said all along, current wireless or so-called wireless charging is anything but. I really couldnt care less if I have to pop in the lightning cable or set my phone on a mat. A mat THAT HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN!!!!! Its not wireless.

I don't understand your point, even charging at range will involve an electrical transmitter that (guess what) will be required to be plugged in. Do you expect electricity to magically fall from the heavens?

 

[nvmls]

They could sell the case without hardware for 2k and consumers would still buy it. Tim is very talented and consumers quite smart.

 

[Brandonjr36]

Damn apple just keeps disappointing there so far behind Samsung it's not even funny. I regret even getting this iPhone 7. Should've just stayed with Samsung. And I'm not pissed off over the wireless charging it's about adding the stupid ass 5w charger that takes 3 hours to charge the damn thing.

 

[69Mustang]

I really couldnt care less if I have to pop in the lightning cable or set my phone on a mat. A mat THAT HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN!!!!! Its not wireless.

Afaik, every charging solution has to be plugged in. Even the Energous base stations have to be plugged in. You're never getting rid of plug in power. Now that's overly pedantic I know. But the point is

Wireless charging so convenient.. You HAVE to connect to the device, nothing wireless about it, and if you are in bed, a long wire could let you leave the phone nearby, now you have to put it too far away..
And if you travel, and you want this amazing wireless charging, you have to bring a base station and it's wire(s).
Rather then just a single wire that you could use in any usb (wall socket) charging port.

Unless I put the phone down nearby me, and it's charging no matter where i have the device in my living room or bedroom or the car .. there's no reason for me to pay $150 or whatever they might charge for wireless base station.

Not to mention that it will be a lot slower than a 12w ipad charger in the wall, or over usb-c to lightning.

It's just an option. You don't have to buy nor use it. Simply keep doing what you've been doing. For those who want to use it I don't imagine it being the hardship you paint in your quote.

 

[Tycho24]

Solidly in the “if true... I’ll pick up a 7S instead” camp!

Equally solidly in the “I don’t believe it for a minute... if it wasn’t ready, Apple would have postponed the iPhone Edition until January or March or whatever it took to include it” camp.

 

[MaSx]

Wireless charger sold separately for only $199

 

[verniesgarden]

USB-A needs to die slowly...

you mean quickly

 

[topmounter]

Maybe it will be a sensor where the front camera is, that will scan your fingerprint without touching it, just placing it over the sensor. THAT would be very welcomed.

While I don't know how technically feasible that would be, at least it makes more sense that dropping TouchID entirely. Driving at night and trying to get facial recognition to work sounds like a problem... unless there is a front facing flash... oh wait, that's a problem too. Regardless, I've been very happy w/ the finger print sensor on my Android phone.

 

[freediverx]

Yes, same when using Apple Pay. When you make contact with the reader, the angle of the phone is not to your face, but upwards. They'll have to alter the timing so that you can invoke Apple Pay, show the camera to your face, then with a short delay move it over to the reader.

Maybe the routine for Apple Pay wouldn't be so different. Today you take your phone from your pocket, double click the home button while looking at the screen to make sure it opens Apple Pay and unlocks, and then you place it near the terminal.

With face ID it could be the same, except maybe you'd make a greater effort to aim it at your face while double clicking. I would assume Apple wouldn't make the leap to this new tech if they hadn't tested it and confirmed it was similarly efficient and reliable.
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I just think faceiD is such a bad idea. It will not be nearly as accurate as touchID and would rely on good lighting etc to be useful.

Face ID with 3D could potentially be more secure than TouchID. Lighting might be irrelevant if the scanning is done with the assistance of IR or a laser.

 

[Nunyabinez]

Question: How many stories have you heard of thieves taking an iPhone and forcing someone's finger on to the home button to steal their phone? I'm sure that it probably has happened, but obviously not wide spread. That's only marginally more difficult (at best) than taking it and holding it up to your face to steal it.

 

[freediverx]

The current facial recognition is crap in other phones.

The phone that have iris scanning can't be unlocked while walking. Rather dumb and pointless.

Touch screens and fingerprint readers were crap before Apple perfected them. Why on earth would face ID not work while walking?
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Can't see them taking out Touch ID, it would remove Apple Pay which they are pushing ??!

Not if they can promote it as being even more secure.

 

[pat500000]

Damn apple just keeps disappointing there so far behind Samsung it's not even funny. I regret even getting this iPhone 7. Should've just stayed with Samsung. And I'm not pissed off over the wireless charging it's about adding the stupid ass 5w charger that takes 3 hours to charge the damn thing.

While i agree with you about 5w...i think lot of people would have 12w by now.

 

[freediverx]

I often look at the phone to see if there are any new messages etc. In that situation I don’t want to unlock it, just look. In fact I’m being quite careful not to unlock it by not touching the fingerprint reader.
If with a face scanner the phone will unlock every time you look at it, I’d consider that a big step backwards.

This is the reason I disabled raise to wake on my phone. I sure hope they take this into consideration.

 

[Floris]

Afaik, every charging solution has to be plugged in. Even the Energous base stations have to be plugged in. You're never getting rid of plug in power. Now that's overly pedantic I know. But the point is


It's just an option. You don't have to buy nor use it. Simply keep doing what you've been doing. For those who want to use it I don't imagine it being the hardship you paint in your quote.

It's not hardship.
On one hand I'd love a phone that's completely waterproof and has no connectors, but if it is 'wireless', then it should at least be as convenient as wired charging, not more of a compromise.

 

[freediverx]

Seems like according to these predictions that all 3 model are similar... Given this rumor, what would set the 8 apart from the 7 & 7s to warrant the presumably higher price tag and special or anniversary edition???

• OLED display (compare your iPhone to a Galaxy S8+ if you don't think the difference is noticeable.)
• Phablet-sized display in a conventional-sized phone (again, check out an S8+ in person)

 

[9594864]

How long $WATT are you, anyway? lol

Not at all. Can't risk it. Haha

 

[freediverx]

Air Pods in the box? You’ve got to be joking. Headphones aren’t required to operate the device. Makes no sense to put expensive headphones in the box. Especially when people who care about good headphones would probably use something else instead.

Yeah that's a ridiculous idea. AirPods sell for $150 and Apple can't keep them in stock. Why would they include them with an iPhone, artificially inflating its retail price, which would hurt sales? ...Especially for people like me who already own AirPods.
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Wouldn't the removal of Touch ID immediately impact all Apple Pay apps and services?

All those apps that have incorporated Touch ID for logging in and registering?

Not buying this prediction.

Well, on one hand, Apple could market face ID as being even more secure that TouchID. The only catch, though, is that they'd probably need some time to convince banks it's safe, and during that gap all those customers might not be able to use it. The only other scenario I can imagine is if Apple already got bank approvals for face ID + Apple Pay, but that's highly unlikely while maintaining confidentiality.

 

[mi7chy]

5W charger is what comes with free prepaid phones. Talk about being cheap. Apple should bundle a 15W charger like the rest of the industry. Ikea even has a quality 17W charger that's $7.50.

 

[TheFluffyDuck]

They have also removed 3D touch for the iPad pro under iOS11.

*Magsafe
*Headphonejack
*3D Touch
* Touch ID

Sensing a regressing theme here.

 

[Brandonjr36]

While i agree with you about 5w...i think lot of people would have 12w by now.

I have a 12w now but the problem is they probably will be coming out with the USB C charger then all of our 12w won't work anymore.