Populations get bigger every year.
There has also been a spike in suicides / substance abuse since the lockdown.
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Populations get bigger every year.
There has also been a spike in suicides / substance abuse since the lockdown.
Not that much bigger. And you’d suppose that’s the case, but I’ve yet to see any data to support the statement that there has been a spike in suicides in the U.S.
Shutdowns work, more shutdowns are needed because after the shutdowns people run out in masses and ignore distancing and mask rules, so the number of infections are rising again, which in turn asks for another shutdown. If people would just sit through a shutdown and then follow basic rules thereafter, this wouldn't be an issue at all and this thread would not exist. You have to thank the people who refuse to wear masks and not keep their distance from others for all of this.
I’m afraid Covid has become the leading cause of death in USA recently. But sure live in your alternative reality bubble. Not a problem we have here. I’m going to have a normal Christmas.
COVID-19 was the leading cause of death in the U.S. this week, report says
In the U.S., COVID-19 cases have surpassed 14.3 million, and more than 278,500 deaths have been recorded, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.www.google.com.au
The leading cause of death in the U.S. for the year 2020 is, and remains, heart disease.
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Well then, it appears you haven't researched the data too much because if you did, you would see that there has been a noticeable spike in suicides in the U.S. for the year 2020. Mostly among younger people.
And literally the only country which has come up with not one, but two, vaccines against the virus. A vaccine you will probably receive, no? Or out of your own morality will you refuse a vaccine because it was created by American companies?
I said I haven’t seen data to support the statement and you provided no data. You haven’t changed my mind.
Fact Check:
- Trump did not mandate masks on a national level because:
- Early medical advisors (Fauci) were super inconsistent, so it's hard to make an enforce mass policy, when the experts can't even agree. Even now, data shows that masks make only a marginal difference, assuming they're always worn properly, never touched/adjusted, washed, etc.
- The President doesn't have the power to mandate masks on a national level. Even if he did, because of #1 above, people still wouldn't have followed it, as they do now.
- He does care about about people and has done plenty to prove it, and I'm sure if you have the gumption to look it up, you'd see plenty of examples. I think to say that any president only cares about himself is a major overstatement.
- I agree that the pandemic cost him the election, only because it gave the media the perfect storm of stuff to pin on him whether it was his fault or not... They had:
- An economic recession which would be expected in a pandemic regardless of who was president.
- People everywhere afraid of the virus, losing their jobs, conspiracies, political power grabs, etc.
- Limited information at first (1.1 above) and now with more statistics available, literally half the country wanting him to do one thing and the other half wanting him to do another.
- (Most importantly) nearly complete control of information dissemination. It's easy to control the narrative, when you control mainstream, traditional media and social media outlets.
- EXAMPLE: All this Hunter Biden stuff would've been super helpful before the election, but that would've probably caused the same firestorm that probably contributed to Hillary losing the election 4 years ago. They wouldn't risk doing that again. Now that Biden is "safe," that story is now safe to run.
Which ones are you referring to? I assume you mean vaccines that have been approved and are not just candidates?
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Haha! Comedy if you think we have any handle on true total cases and there is some huge number of unknown covid deaths.
Very few in the grand scheme of things, people forget how large of a population we have in the U.S. and our death count is actually relatively low. Of course if we would listen to the real experts that have drugs that have been proven to stop the spread and to virtually eliminate any complications if you do get it, we could get this much lower, but that wouldn't allow the government to keep fear mongering and trying to get everyone fully dependent on the government.
What drugs would that be? I'd be very interested to read about this in a peer reviewed publication. Please provide a link/source.
What about the people that are being killed by the policies, these include, but aren't limited people who couldn't get "elective procedures" like mammograms, cancer removal, colonoscopies, etc. that could have had their lives spared had these occurred earlier. Also includes people who have committed suicide due to depression from the lockdowns. People who have lost their livelihoods, including businesses that have been around for 30+ years.
The list goes on and on, but none of these things matter, "we must save all lives, at all costs." While we ignore the fact that the majority that have allegedly died from COVID would have died from something else this year. And yes, I have to say allegedly when I know someone who was kicked in the head by a horse and yet their death certificate says they died from COVID and not from head trauma, which was the obvious cause. Then there is the person that died from a heart attack (known to have heart issues and the heart attack was proven unrelated to COVID) that happened to test positive for COVID, so their death certificate says from covid. This happens constantly, so the numbers are very hard to believe.
People are loosing so much and we are giving up so much freedom all in the name of so called safety (which isn't working anyway), it is time we stand up and say enough.
Here it is from a senate hearing: https://fb.watch/2wEcrXJpd3/
NOTE: I do not subscribe or even necessarily agree with the group that posted this; however, the video is important.
I am sure you can find more details from there.
misinformed much? The first vaccine currently being used in the US was developed by Turkish immigrants in Germany. In fact, they didn’t take American money. They were funded by the German government. NEXT
Many thanks for the link. So it's Ivermectin, which is a broad-spectrum anti-parasitic agent. It's been used during the early stages of the pandemic as many were hopeful it would help the infected. Success is somewhat limited however, it does certainly not stop the pandemic or cure everyone infected. The studies around it are questionable, as confirmed by Amesh Adaljia (https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9768999400) from Johns Hopkins (https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-people/adalja/).
I'd personally take anything from Pierre Kory with a grain of salt. I keep hearing that he's financially involved with some suppliers trying to push medication to the market to gain financial benefits. He's been accused of asking Homeland Security for emergency use authorization for some of his medications. I'd personally wait for valid and peer reviewed publications before jumping to any conclusions.
Patriotic? That has zero to do with this. Have you ever filled out a death certificate? The cause of death is extremely subjective in most cases. Total deaths for the year are less than normal.
Listen, if you think the pack 50 masks from Wal-mart is going to protect you - wear it. Don’t force others to do it. If your mask works so well, you shouldn’t be worried about me without one. Especially if you are 6 feet away.
Perfect example for not understanding at all how masks work.
Mammograms and Colonoscopies occur inside doctors offices and never stopped. And cancer removal isn’t elective.
Knee and hip replacements are elective. You know, elective... as in things that won’t kill you if you wait a few extra weeks because you’re “electing” to have it done as a therapeutic measure.
It does actually. Those that spend more on higher end brands are entitled. You spend more to get a higher level of service. You don’t buy a Mercedes or Porsche to get treated like a 3rd class peasant. I’ve been treated well by Apple for the most part, but one of the times where they replace a defective accessory (years ago) I simply did a charge back and dumped threw it out. They are a multi billion dollar corporation. They can act like it. I don’t know why you defend them like they are a family member or significant other.
As far as the 2nd bolder point, why should they? Apple isn’t Dell or HP making $400 disposable notebook computers here.
The local hardware store I work at still services STIHL branded equipment even during a pandemic. Wouldn’t call a leaf blower or chainsaw a necessary item either. But those who spend and make a living with their power tools depend on us and other stihl dealers to be there for them. Those power tools are how folks make a living. A computer is how a graphic design artist makes theirs.
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Well, if we're using anecdotal accounts, then I'll be one to say this hasn't really affected me economically, but I've known people who died from it, or have pulled through, but with lung scarring.
99.5% survival rate is assuming you have full medical care. If hospitals are overrun, then good luck fending for yourself when there aren't any beds available, nor staff won't to be able to take care of you. And yes, some staff have quit. They're overwhelmed, having symptoms of PTSD, and it doesn't help folks like you are telling other people that "this isn't a big deal". When someone says drinking and driving or texting and driving is bad, that doesn't mean never drive again. It means take precautions, and for this case, to do something as simple as wearing a mask!
Even those who don't die may sustain permanent injuries. You may even get hit with medical bills in the 5-figures.
Also, all the things about divorce, drug use, etc. are symptoms. The causes of them need to be addressed.