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Analyst Claims: Qualcomm 3G Chip Destined for Verizon iPhone, Tablet Based on P.A. Semi Processor

The Qualcomm Snapdragon - as seen in the Nexus One - contains a HSPA and EVDO baseband processor, enabling the same chip to be used in both versions of the handset.

Snapdragon also contains a Cortex A9-class CPU running at 1GHz called the Scorpion and an exceptionally fast GPU. Unlike the Cortex A8 in the iPhone, the Scorpion and A9 support out-of-order processing.

Why wouldn't Apple just go the whole hog and get the whole solution from Qualcomm, which would likely use much less power than using non-integrated chips from different vendors? I can't see why they would need to build their own chip.
 
We've been over this before. Despite the usual naive talk of "billions of world GSM users", the actual fact is that the USA has been the major market for the iPhone.

50% of all iPhone model sales have been to AT&T buyers. Between 42-45% of all 3G and 3GS sales have been to AT&T buyers.

If Verizon customers bought an iPhone in the same ratio as ATT customers, then a CDMA capable version would easily become one third of world sales of that model generation... and probably much more, since many 3GS buyers are now locked into two year subsidies and will skip an upgrade this year.

I'm not saying they will make a CDMA model, but the market is certainly big enough, and needs to be entered before too many customers are locked into Android and Palm devices.

As for changing radios... people forget (or never thought about the fact) that Apple already revamped their electronics + baseband software and added a CDMA type radio back when they went to 3G.
 
You guys whining about a seemingly inevitable Verizon logo are so shortsighted. Do you think there aren't dozens of carriers out there in the world that did not also heavily brand their phones? Like in the UK, in Germany, in France, basically EVERYWHERE ?

And guess what: how many branded iPhones have these carriers sold so far?

ZERO.
 
Abercrombieboy said:
Could some of the people who claim that R&D of a CDMA iPhone would be cost prohibitive please give us a figure. Millions? Billions? I'd like to know why Moto, HTC, RIM, etc. can afford to do this and make a profit and Apple can't.
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Be smart now! Blackberry has been in the business in the begginning of the melinnium, and when you ask aboyut Moto, HTC.. I think you're referring to the operating system. Which they both carry Android. So baisically, they've already been in the market ever since. That said, it is expensive for Apple!

Btw: Verizon logos are ugly. Except if they're gray.
 
Rocketman said:
It would not be like Apple to come out with a CDMA phone at its well known very end of its useful life.

Verizon should pay Apple to adopt THEM. 15% OF OUTSTANDING STOCK SOUNDS FAIR. 15% of $90.7B = $13.6B. Chump change.

Rocketman
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It will take years to fully transition the CDMA network over to LTE. Data will be going first, but Verizon plans to keep voice on CDMA for many years. They must make a backwards compatible iPhone or wait until sometime around 2018-2020.

Second, right now you might think that it is Verizon that needs Apple, but I see it the other way. Android will become a threat much quicker if Apple stays AT&T exclusive.

alexhasfun28 said:
Be smart now! Blackberry has been in the business in the begginning of the melinnium, and when you ask aboyut Moto, HTC.. I think you're referring to the operating system. Which they both carry Android. So baisically, they've already been in the market ever since. That said, it is expensive for Apple!

Btw: Verizon logos are ugly. Except if they're gray.
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Before you rag on me for not being smart you should check your spelling! I was referring to every other company being capable of making a CDMA and GSM version of a phone. I believe Apple is capable of it as well.
 
I think Apple should just support all 4 of the major US networks and let them battle it out. Then everyone wins.
 
maturola said:
No the biggest at all, US represent about 18% of the Global mobile market, VRZ would count for about bit more than half of that so it will be 9%. FCC, Lab time, Carrier certification cost a lot of money and Engineering time, it doesn't make much sense to expend so much into a technology that is fading away
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Again: EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT.

Global mobile market? What has that to do with anything? We're talking smartphones here, not $50 Nokia / LG rubbish. US market share in smartphones is more like 30%. That means that Apple is completely ignoring 15% of their market so far.
 
rockosmodurnlif said:
I'm all for iPhone on Verizon then I can read posts about how Verizon sucks on their iPhone.
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LOL. I'm sure this will happen (if it does).

Imho, all the networks suck. However, the more carriers that have iPhone the better for consumers. This is what I want.

w00master
 
jav6454 said:
Same regurgitated BS from the post before. I ain't responding until you come with convincing stuff to support your points. I did give you... otherwise it's BS you can pull out your head.
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Uh...you are a schmuck. You haven't proven anything either. If you think it's so expensive, then why don't you prove that it is? You know, you aren't any more special than anyone else here, we don't have to prove ANYTHING to you. All of this is speculation and rumors until otherwise noted.

BTW simple logic, given Apple's history and the way they do things gives more credence to the idea that they already had a cdma phone than anything you can prove. People thought they would never go to intel either, but they had an intel version for quite a while before we knew about it. NO, I am not going to prove it to you, use your little brain and go figure it out.

Good job Woomaster, I agree wholeheartedly with what you say.
 
Abercrombieboy said:
Verizon has said over and over again they are very happy with their extremely stable 1xCDMA voice network. You know the network that doesn't drop calls? Data will move to LTE from EV-DO, but they don't plan on replacing their voice network until around 2018-2020. I would assume the next step will be VoIP over LTE, but they want to make sure everything is very stable before they do that.

LTE isn't the reason why Apple would wait. If they are waiting to make a pure Verizon LTE device they would have to wait until the end of the decade. A Verizon iPhone MUST be a CDMA device. There is no other way.
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All correct but what if... The VZ iPhone is not only a CDMA device but is also the first LTE phone as well. Not only would this offer something that no other phone has ( take that Android phones) but allows Apple to expand US market share. This approach also cures the only public complant that APPLE has ever made about VZ... You could have Data (from the LTE side) and Voice (from the CDMA side) at the same time.

Given that VZ is rolling out LTE as we speak and will have the 20 largest US citys covered by EOY , even the timing works.....
 
reallynotnick said:
I think Apple should just support all 4 of the major US networks and let them battle it out. Then everyone wins.
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+1 for me as well. This is what is best for consumers (and imho Apple). More opportunities to SELL HARDWARE.

Isn't this what Apple is all about? SELLING HARDWARE.

w00master
 
Abercrombieboy said:
Second, right now you might think that it is Verizon that needs Apple, but I see it the other way. Android will become a threat much quicker if Apple stays AT&T exclusive.
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I wouldn't say, anyone needs anyone here. Instead it's more like a win-win situation for both.
 
Abercrombieboy said:
It will take years to fully transition the CDMA network over to LTE. Data will be going first, but Verizon plans to keep voice on CDMA for many years. They must make a backwards compatible iPhone or wait until sometime around 2018-2020.

Second, right now you might think that it is Verizon that needs Apple, but I see it the other way. Android will become a threat much quicker if Apple stays AT&T exclusive.



Before you rag on me for not being smart you should check your spelling! I was referring to every other company being capable of making a CDMA and GSM version of a phone. I believe Apple is capable of it as well.
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As far as I know, you actually understood something. Other than that, what you were trying to say is why HTC, and Moto are capable of making these CDMA and GMS phones, while Apple can't. It's cause Apple has barely got into the market! Give it a break now. I can see the Verizon iPhone next year, instead of this year.
 
Abercrombieboy said:
It will take years to fully transition the CDMA network over to LTE. Data will be going first, but Verizon plans to keep voice on CDMA for many years.
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AT&T was slammed by iPhone initial adoption. Verizon will not have that issue. They could offer a non-voice data only contract and allow VoIP and tethering. That would kill three birds with one stone.

Rocketman
 
It would be MUCH MORE EFFICIENT to produce a single world phone, but Apple can't afford to be hurt by AT&T anymore for another year. It is that simple, and they know it. The competition is too fierce! I don't know that it will go to Verizon, but it will be on SOMEONE in addition to AT&T this summer! Then 2011 they will probably switch to that world chip and back to one model, then to LTE after that.

Also, this guy is a moron about the P.A. Semi bit... Ummmmm, DUUUHHHHH! :rolleyes:

On a side note: With the iPhone opening all over, and the MASSIVE influx of smart phones, app stores, and even laptops, and now tablets, and e-readers etc. I am beginning to wonder if we are going to have universal wireless network overloads all over the world. I don't know that they are ready for all of this yet! In the future I see people having one wireless bill and everything being connected. But I don't think all the networks are ready for it! They might be barely scrapping by until LTE! Anyone else concerned or thought about that???
 
Rocketman said:
AT&T was slammed by iPhone initial adoption. Verizon will not have that issue. They could offer a non-voice data only contract and allow VoIP and tethering. That would kill three birds with one stone.
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Including the bird that brings in voice+text revenue :D
 
SwiftLives said:
I don't buy it. Apple chose the GSM band for the phone because of the potential for worldwide deployment.
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While I know we like to believe that Apple is all-powerful and all, the fact is that they tried to do a deal with Verizon first. When Verizon would not bend to Apple's wishes, THEN they chose to do a deal with Cingular (which then became AT&T when it was gobbled up by AT&T). Apple needed a good carrier more than Verizon (thought they) needed Apple. It turned out that might not have been one of the better corporate decisions at Verizon, but there should be no doubt that Apple didn't choose GSM as their first choice.
 
Abercrombieboy said:
If you read the blog from the AT&T event coverage from CES today you will notice there was hardly a word mentioned about the iPhone. True Apple doesn't have much to do with CES, but it does appear that AT&T is trying to get ready for life after the iPhone is no longer exclusive.

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/01/06/ces-live-from-the-att-developer-summit/
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And if you pay attention to AT&T phone commercials (not Apple's "there's an app for that" commericials) you pretty much don't see them advertising the iPhone. If you don't advertise your best-selling smart phone in favor of other weaker players, the reasoning points to the probability that the exclusive arrangement is in jeopardy.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
And if you pay attention to AT&T phone commercials (not Apple's "there's an app for that" commericials) you pretty much don't see them advertising the iPhone. If you don't advertise your best-selling smart phone in favor of other weaker players, the reasoning points to the probability that the exclusive arrangement is in jeopardy.
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Not to defend AT&T here (ha!) Part of the arrangement with AT&T and Apple was that Apple would be the *SOLE* advertiser on the iPhone.

This is why you don't see any AT&T commercials that include the iPhone.

w00master
 
im thinking that iphone will eventually be available on Verizon in USA. Because as we have seen Apple likes to have the phone available on as many carriers as possible. Here in Canada, iphone is available on 4 carriers with 5th one coming soon. Samething happened in UK too.

Since the country where Apple has been selling most of the iphones is USA, and with Verizon being the largest carrier of the country(right?), it only make sense if they make it available on it.

Also, we have seen many companies making both CDMA/GSM and HSPA versions of cellphones, so its not really a hard thing to do.

Bottom line : More customers = more profit , So why not?
 
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