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Android Continues to Have More Loyal Customers Than iOS
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Tim is kicking ass at making low cost products and selling them at record high prices, burning away long term customers. Did you know Microsoft had it’s most profitable years under Ballmer?
So you can kill the cow to make a small fortune now, but now you have no milk for the future. Tim Cook - high price products with the least amount of innovation and r&d.
Really? Walk into your preferred cell carrier or Apple store, and for $0 down you can walk out with a new iphone X(or your preferred iteration). Either phone is quite "affordable". This of course is under the assumption that you are on a payment plan. Which seems to be the case for many Android and Apple users.
Study is flawed because it doesn’t take into account income. Some, nay, many Android users can’t afford to make the switch to iPhone and the generally more expensive ecosystem, like iCloud storage, to store their photos whereas iPhone users are already at the top of the cost spectrum so switching to Android may be a way for some of them to save money.
# of Android User: # of iOS User = 80 : 20
91% loyalty means 9% people switch to iOS, 80*0.09 = 7.2%
86% loyalty means 14% people switch to Android, 20*0.14 = 2.8 %
After switching, the ratio # of Android User: # of iOS User becomes 80 - 7.2 + 2.8 : 20 -2.8 +7.2 = 75.6 : 24.4 .
Thus, # of iOS users grow.
91% loyalty means 9% people switch to iOS, 80*0.09 = 7.2%
86% loyalty means 14% people switch to Android, 20*0.14 = 2.8 %
After switching, the ratio # of Android User: # of iOS User becomes 80 - 7.2 + 2.8 : 20 -2.8 +7.2 = 75.6 : 24.4 .
Thus, # of iOS users grow.
Apple has been crushing for going on 10 years now and crushing even more under Cook.
The Ballmer years were not all bad. He doesn’t get enough credit and too much blame foon his failure in consumer products, which by the way is still not a huge strength at msft. Microsoft is taking off (in terms of valuation) because of the multiple expansion as it’s being viewed as a services company.
Apple is headed for a services company as well. They are building an enormous base, 240M of which already pay for Apple services monthly.
And please. Apple spends $12B annually on research and development with only Amazon spending significantly more at $16B. You say Apple isn’t innovating but we see Samsung *still* literally copying Apple in their newest flagships while still being significantly behind in 3D sending and facial recognition.
You can’t just poo poo the actual numbers as just Ballmer-Esque doom and gloom. Apple is crushing and people love their products. Your opinion that Apple makes high priced products with no innovation is simply your opinion and is not supported by the real numbers.
Here we go with that useless DEX again. You know what Android doesn’t have? Useful software to run on it. Here we are in 2018 and high-powered Apps are a rarity on Android. The only good software on Android is Office, and that’s because MS realizes they need Office on as many devices as possible to maintain domination.
Google is scrambling to fix this by bringing out Flutter to try and get App parity between iOS and Android. All while still promoting ChromeOS and also working on Fuschia. Google OSes are like their messsging Apps - no clear direction.
And this totally proves the Apple fanboy way of thinking.
Yeah, except that’s not what people say.
Nobody says that only rich people buy iPhones. What people say (which is 100% fact) is that the vast majority of Android phones sold worldwide are low-end junk phones. You’re twisting that around to think that means people are claiming the opposite is true (therefore only rich people buy iPhones).
[doublepost=1520559552][/doublepost]I'm not loyal... I could leave my MacBook Pro, my iPad Pro, my iPhone X, my Apple Watch 3 and my two Apple TVs anytime. LOL!
Android customers continue to be loyal to the Android operating system than iOS users are to the iOS operating system, according to new data shared today by Consumer Intelligence Research Partners.
Android saw a 91 percent loyalty rate in 2017, compared to 86 percent for iOS, with loyalty rates for the two operating systems remaining largely steady since early 2016. Android loyalty has hovered at 89 to 91 percent since January 2016, while iOS loyalty has been between 85 and 88 percent.
Operating system loyalty for the year was measured by the percentage of customers that remained with each operating system when activating a new phone over the twelve months ending in December 2017. CIRP says its findings are based on quarterly surveys with a sample of 500 subjects each.With the Android operating system, customers have access to a range of different smartphones that are all able to run Android, which may explain why it has a higher loyalty rate. Android devices are also typically more affordable than iOS devices, with a wider range of low-priced options available.
As CIRP points out, with fewer and fewer first-time smartphone buyers available, poaching customers from competing operating systems is becoming increasingly important. Apple regularly aims to lure Android users to iOS through trade-in options, videos, a Move to iOS app to make transitioning simple, and a "Switch" website dedicated to explaining all of the reasons why the iPhone is better than competing smartphones.These loyalty rates are not equivalent to switcher rates, where iOS wins out. With a larger Android customer base, more customers are switching over to iOS devices on a regular basis. During earnings calls, Apple CEO Tim Cook always touts the high number of Android switchers Apple sees, with each quarter setting a new record.
Article Link: Android Continues to Have More Loyal Customers Than iOS
This statistic missed one most important thing: Samsung Android, Sony Android, Asus Android and HuaWei Android, they’re all different operation systems.
Freedom is the reason.
Tim Cook says no headphone jack for YOU!
Tim Cook says, no 32 bit apps for YOU, poof, they are gone!
Tim Cook says, NO, you cannot continue to use IOS 10! UPGRADE or BEGONE!
Tim Cook says, NO, you cannot fix your phone. Buy a NEW ONE!
Tim Cook says, no Touch ID for you! Face ID a problem driving? Just drive OFF the road!
Time Cook says, Buy a $1000 phone and people said no.
Basically, Tim Cook, The Mobile Phone Soup Nazi! Samsung is loving Apple and Tim Cook right now.
Apple is creating all their marketing for them.
Steve Jobs is probably rolling over in his grave.
Steve Jobs was against users fixing the iPhone themselves, downgrading their OS, don’t use the phone while driving, Steve Jobs wasn’t the type to hold onto things, and the iPhone was the single best selling iPhone model in the quarter it came out.
Would make sense if this was connected to why apple said why iPhones got so slow (‘battery?’) I tried an s8 but recently went with an iPhone SE on eBay. It’s soooooo good! Super fast and comfortable to hold. It’s really a phenomenal phone.
Android thrives in a lower-margin market that caters for virtually every niche. With iOS we pay through the nose for what Apple want to give us this year, or some slightly reduced price on what apple thought we should want in previous years. Personally I'll probably switch to Android once Apple moves away from touch-ID as it's a must have for me.
This is a story Apple knows well though. It has tried to fight back recently with brand and ecosystem, but I'm not sure that's enough.
This is a story Apple knows well though. It has tried to fight back recently with brand and ecosystem, but I'm not sure that's enough.
You all kill me. If the survey had swung Apples way by a handful of percentage points, you’d be bragging on Apple and boasting that their loyalty is higher because of how great Apple is, etc.
But since the numbers don’t favor your bias, you say the numbers must be flawed.
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Definitely has to be one of the stupidest, most ignorant thing I’ve read on here all week. Thanks a bunch.
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Long time iPhone user that switched to Samsung's Android phone and its a really fine phone.
Apple is far less flexible but remains an excellent phone for the most part. I needed a couple of things that Apple insists on not addressing and that is the only reason for the change.
As for apps, I don't need a million apps just a few solid performers so its quality over quantity and those few are well represented by both camps.
It seems the playing field for most is pretty level and a matter of taste. For the avid user, there will be of course the every present fanboi phenom.
Apple is far less flexible but remains an excellent phone for the most part. I needed a couple of things that Apple insists on not addressing and that is the only reason for the change.
As for apps, I don't need a million apps just a few solid performers so its quality over quantity and those few are well represented by both camps.
It seems the playing field for most is pretty level and a matter of taste. For the avid user, there will be of course the every present fanboi phenom.
It’s a small sample size and I don’t believe it.
Android customers continue to be loyal to the Android operating system than iOS users are to the iOS operating system, according to new data shared today by Consumer Intelligence Research Partners.
Android saw a 91 percent loyalty rate in 2017, compared to 86 percent for iOS, with loyalty rates for the two operating systems remaining largely steady since early 2016. Android loyalty has hovered at 89 to 91 percent since January 2016, while iOS loyalty has been between 85 and 88 percent.
Operating system loyalty for the year was measured by the percentage of customers that remained with each operating system when activating a new phone over the twelve months ending in December 2017. CIRP says its findings are based on quarterly surveys with a sample of 500 subjects each.With the Android operating system, customers have access to a range of different smartphones that are all able to run Android, which may explain why it has a higher loyalty rate. Android devices are also typically more affordable than iOS devices, with a wider range of low-priced options available.
As CIRP points out, with fewer and fewer first-time smartphone buyers available, poaching customers from competing operating systems is becoming increasingly important. Apple regularly aims to lure Android users to iOS through trade-in options, videos, a Move to iOS app to make transitioning simple, and a "Switch" website dedicated to explaining all of the reasons why the iPhone is better than competing smartphones.These loyalty rates are not equivalent to switcher rates, where iOS wins out. With a larger Android customer base, more customers are switching over to iOS devices on a regular basis. During earnings calls, Apple CEO Tim Cook always touts the high number of Android switchers Apple sees, with each quarter setting a new record.
Article Link: Android Continues to Have More Loyal Customers Than iOS
I absolutely think it’s wrong in the US alone.
That’s like saying there’s no such thing as a stupid question.
Why yes.....yes there are stupid questions.
Drinking and driving may work for some people because they enjoy getting drunk and driving home three nights a week from the bar, that doesn’t mean it’s a smart decision because it works for them.
Indeed. The only thing worse than haphazardly cobbled together statistics is people who can't read them. Given the much larger installed base of Android, the stats presented in the article mean that more people are switching from Android to iOS than the other way around (if you assume that the opposite of being loyal to either platform is switching to the other).
Yes, it’s ALL about money isn’t it. But once any company becomes more about making money than anything else, more times than not the money eventually evaporates.
And besides - what gives? Youre bragging on Apple as if you’re proud about it, like you somehow we’re a key player in their financial success.
And then there’s the flaw in your argument anyway: if someone said macdonalds hamburgers suck, so would tell them how financially successful McDonald’s is? And thats somehow proof that their hamburgers are great?
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Perhaps you should start with “hooked on phonics” before you ask dumb questions.
I’ll give you a hint. I’ve been an iOS user for the past 6 month. Now I’ll give you time to do the math. Good luck.