Okay, I'm in. Now tell me what AdMob gains from twisting the stats? Surely the only thing concerning AdMob is ad impressions and click through rates.
If they skew the stats to seem that Android has more, what do they gain?
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Android U.S. Ad Request Market Share Surges Past iPhone, iPhone and iPod Touch Device Mix Detailed
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Okay, I'm in. Now tell me what AdMob gains from twisting the stats? Surely the only thing concerning AdMob is ad impressions and click through rates.
If they skew the stats to seem that Android has more, what do they gain?
Just like we would expect that new ad company apple bought to report higher numbers of their software being used by iphone/ipod touch
I don't know what my employment status has to do with your wild imagination.
Give me reasons as to why they would do this (aside from the execs getting fired). Genuine reasons.
Most interesting aspect is that 54% of the ad requests for Android came from QWERTY handsets. Keyboard model Android devices seem to have a disproportionate request amount. Note to Apple, give us a real keyboard. This is why I still use my G1 over the Nexus One.
Thanks for the link. I found part the answer to what I was looking for.
For device specific info, iPhone has 19.9% requests while Droid has 8.6% in the US. iPhone has 22.2% requests while Droid has 4% in the world.
Though, this still doesn't tell me what I truly want to know. I want to know specifically what shares did iPhone 3GS hold in this picture. Well, if my math is correct, for the US market, iPhone has 19.9% requests, 3GS has 39% of the worldwide iPhone device shares (again, I would like the # for US shares but I can't seem to find it in the pdf.), then the approximate number would be 19.9% * 0.39 = 7.761%. (Please correct me if I am wrong on this.)
So the number I am looking for is iPhone 3GS has 7.761% of requests while Droid has 8.6% of requests in the US.
If I am Moto, I will sure be very proud and deserve to give a toast to celebrate.
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Also, I'm sure if there was no flash functionality on a device that a text or gif ad would be displayed.
I can't ever remember seeing a blue Lego insted of an ad on my iPod touch on mobile sites.
manu chao said:
Also, I'm sure if there was no flash functionality on a device that a text or gif ad would be displayed.
I can't ever remember seeing a blue Lego insted of an ad on my iPod touch on mobile sites.
I'm pretty sure the AdMob platform, both for iPhone and Android, does not support the serving of Flash ads.
Why, yes, yes they do. But you're not suggesting that the "Do No Evil" company would... No, that couldn't BE! Only APPLE is the axis of evil in computing today.
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Didn't you know? Google threatened to fire some mid level exec if the numbers didn't favour Android.
Swift said:
Didn't you know? Google threatened to fire some mid level exec if the numbers didn't favour Android.
I will repeat
Yes First of all this represents ads and nothing to do with actual market share of the phones. Second of all I will repeat how can we trust admob statistics when they are owned by Google, you cannot. What stats did they use to come up with this? Mean, median, etc. etc. etc. Stats mean nothing, I want to see market share represented in the amount of handsets sold. I do not think it would come close to the 8.5 million that Apple sold in the last quarter.
Yes First of all this represents ads and nothing to do with actual market share of the phones. Second of all I will repeat how can we trust admob statistics when they are owned by Google, you cannot. What stats did they use to come up with this? Mean, median, etc. etc. etc. Stats mean nothing, I want to see market share represented in the amount of handsets sold. I do not think it would come close to the 8.5 million that Apple sold in the last quarter.
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Which isn't a smartphone, thus it will not be included in smartphone stats.
Legolover64 said:
Which isn't a smartphone, thus it will not be included in smartphone stats.
I had hoped to have a reasonable conversation, but well ... seems like you're just another troll.
First, the amount of ads served obviously is in linear proportion to the number of phones in use.
Second, it does not really matter whether you trust admob or not. What matters is whether advertisers and app developers trust them and I bet they trust them more that they trust you.
While these are interesting stats there are a few things to consider:
1. Google's impending buyout of AdMob - While i'm not saying that they fudged the numbers, I am saying that some iPhone devs may have moved to other platforms, especially considering Apple's forthcoming iAd platform.
2. The spread of iPhone ads to other ad networks - I don't know the other ad networks offhand as I have been using only AdMob, there may have been some attrition, especially if the other networks were paying out higher (Although my AdMob revenue has been up the past month or so, maybe there are less apps being used to serve the ads thus driving up the price.) AdMob even implements code that will allow you to select at runtime which ad network you want to display.
3. iPad - I have not used a single iPad app yet that has used AdMob in it, while I'm sure they are out there they aren't being featured in the store. Also since iPad displays the full pages most of the time you don't go to the mobile sites that had AdMob mobile ads. I know that I have dropped down to only 1-2 websites per week on my iPhone since I got my iPad. If I have my iPad I use that instead, and these charts don't indicate anything about iPad.
My guess is a good % of iPad owners are the same way, they have an iPhone/iPod Touch and just don't use it as much, especially when it comes to the web.
Also those who are saying that the relationship between ad impressions and device usage is linear, that is probably not the case. If an Android user has 10 apps with admob in it versus the iPhone with 2 the relationship of # of devices to ads can be linear but it can't be compared against each other as the scale is dependent on usage which is different for both platforms. I have a feeling that this could be because Android users aren't as willing to pay money for apps so the developers are looking for other means to make a profit.
1. Google's impending buyout of AdMob - While i'm not saying that they fudged the numbers, I am saying that some iPhone devs may have moved to other platforms, especially considering Apple's forthcoming iAd platform.
2. The spread of iPhone ads to other ad networks - I don't know the other ad networks offhand as I have been using only AdMob, there may have been some attrition, especially if the other networks were paying out higher (Although my AdMob revenue has been up the past month or so, maybe there are less apps being used to serve the ads thus driving up the price.) AdMob even implements code that will allow you to select at runtime which ad network you want to display.
3. iPad - I have not used a single iPad app yet that has used AdMob in it, while I'm sure they are out there they aren't being featured in the store. Also since iPad displays the full pages most of the time you don't go to the mobile sites that had AdMob mobile ads. I know that I have dropped down to only 1-2 websites per week on my iPhone since I got my iPad. If I have my iPad I use that instead, and these charts don't indicate anything about iPad.
My guess is a good % of iPad owners are the same way, they have an iPhone/iPod Touch and just don't use it as much, especially when it comes to the web.
Also those who are saying that the relationship between ad impressions and device usage is linear, that is probably not the case. If an Android user has 10 apps with admob in it versus the iPhone with 2 the relationship of # of devices to ads can be linear but it can't be compared against each other as the scale is dependent on usage which is different for both platforms. I have a feeling that this could be because Android users aren't as willing to pay money for apps so the developers are looking for other means to make a profit.
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Please explain to me why Google would have done what you were suggesting and I'll gladly eat humble pie. I can't see no rhyme nor reason as to why they would do it so the whole theory is illogical to me.
If not, there is always the ignore feature. Click on my profile username the on ignore this user. Quite invaluable.
Speedy2 said:
Please explain to me why Google would have done what you were suggesting and I'll gladly eat humble pie. I can't see no rhyme nor reason as to why they would do it so the whole theory is illogical to me.
If not, there is always the ignore feature. Click on my profile username the on ignore this user. Quite invaluable.