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I guess I am out of step here.

My iPad Air 2 with 128gb of ram is much slower than my two Mac Laptops. Firefox is much faster at loading and rendering pages than ios Safari is.

Imagine me browsing on my iPad 3! :eek:

It usually take 5-15 seconds per page load. The longest time I've seen it take to load a page on MacRumors was 25 seconds.
 
Like Macs. People own them for years and years before they upgrade.

Smartphones are unique in that the majority of people upgrade them every year or two.

My iPhone is my oldest device. I have no mobile contract that lasts 2 years. I could cancel every day and I buy my phones unlocked.

My monthly mobile cost is $5 including 200MB of 3G and flat rate on GPRS data.

That's why I keep my phones 4+ years. To me this is most cost effective.
 
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I have stated ever since the first ipad, that a fully integrated ipad dock, mfd by apple would provide a new dimension to the functionality and productivity to the ipad, something like the pro 3 or experia 4

I am saying for quite some time the iOS should be usable with a mouse too. Keeping the two planes of hands and screen at the correct 70 degree angle. Maybe wit iOS 10.
 
I guess I am out of step here.

My iPad Air 2 with 128gb of ram is much slower than my two Mac Laptops. Firefox is much faster at loading and rendering
128 gig of ram in an air 2.. Mmm close, you mean 2 gig I assume.. Hard drive space has little bearing on speed..
 
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I am saying for quite some time the iOS should be usable with a mouse too. Keeping the two planes of hands and screen at the correct 70 degree angle. Maybe wit iOS 10.
A mouse in a touchscreen device is useless, same as fingers on a mouse desktop.. At home we have a win 8 ultrabook. Tiled touchscreen front and which works fine with fingers.. Go to the win 7 desktop and fingers are too fat..
 
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OK, can you please explain which of you is planning to port the kernel over to an entirely different (processor) architecture? Apple could do it (and perhaps is doing it, based on some speculation about the iPad Pro), but it's not a trivial task. Don't you remember the PowerPC transition, and then the transition to Intel x86?

I think Apple would be better off putting an Intel processor in the iPad Pro, rather than porting OS X to the A7/A8 and later. But since they're in the unique position of controlling both the hardware and the software, it's really their call.


Still, iOS 9 is the next clear upgrade for the existing iPad line. I can't see them making such a move without introducing new hardware that's designed for the change.


In its current guise, OS X would have a very hard time running on a 2GB iPad Air 2. I can't imagine them porting it over for existing hardware.

I'm not saying Apple would put it on theAir 2, I'm saying that 2GB of ram is enough to OS X, slow, but it would run, and the speed of the A8X is more than powerful enough to run it. I'm not going to attempt it, but it could be done. To me, the air 2 would be to small of a screen for OS X
 
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Steve Jons died and took all innovation with him.  has introduced nothing successful since he died.  Watch was not a massive hit like when the iPhone launched etc.

If this was true, the following would not be considered innovation:

  • Touch ID for incredible advancements in security.
  • Larger screens on iPhones to make reading/watching/viewing content easier, nicer and better.
  • iOS 8 & 9 advancements in vital features such as overall stability, continuity across all Apple devices, & multitasking.
  • Massive improvements with Maps and Transit coming shortly.
  • Fresh software and hardware designs under the direction of Jony Ive that match Apple's approach when it comes to design. Hate Jony? Then hate Steve, they were proclaimed best (and spiritual) friends in life.
  • Apple Pay across iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch to vastly improve security when it comes to making any kind of purchases.
  • Health app, Apple Watch Activity & Workout apps to improve the overall health and lives of users.
  • Apple Music to make listening to what you want to, when you'd like to an absolute breeze without burning your wallet to a crisp.
And damn, I could go on and on and on for hours. I won't waste my time though, and I'm sure I've missed an insane amount of hugely important innovative enhancements that Apple's taken on since October of 2011.

Steve's dead, but Apple is laughably not.
 
If this was true, the following would not be considered innovation:

  • Touch ID for incredible advancements in security.
  • Larger screens on iPhones to make reading/watching/viewing content easier, nicer and better.
  • iOS 8 & 9 advancements in vital features such as overall stability, continuity across all Apple devices, & multitasking.
  • Massive improvements with Maps and Transit coming shortly.
  • Fresh software and hardware designs under the direction of Jony Ive that match Apple's approach when it comes to design. Hate Jony? Then hate Steve, they were proclaimed best (and spiritual) friends in life.
  • Apple Pay across iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch to vastly improve security when it comes to making any kind of purchases.
  • Health app, Apple Watch Activity & Workout apps to improve the overall health and lives of users.
  • Apple Music to make listening to what you want to, when you'd like to an absolute breeze without burning your wallet to a crisp.
And damn, I could go on and on and on for hours. I won't waste my time though, and I'm sure I've missed an insane amount of hugely important innovative enhancements that Apple's taken on since October of 2011.

Steve's dead, but Apple is laughably not.

Maybe this has been brought up before, but let's face it, Tim & Co and the Board knew Steve was dying. It would be short sighted for a company to not have him put forth a five to seven year plan for 'innovation' as the technology became available or could be designed. Now whether the powers to be decide to follow that roadmap or not is a different discussion. So many of the things mentioned above could have already been in the pipeline.
Steve was the 'glue' that held the company together and yes, for a company to put that much strength in one person could be consider a flaw, but what else can you do when the company rises to the strength it did upon Steve's return. To a point, many that say Steve wouldn't have allowed the many hiccups that have occurred are right. But this is not Steve's Apple anymore.
I like the watch. I bought a late 2012 Mac Mini last year as I saw the writing on the wall about the update. I just purchased a new iPad Air 2, which I think is great, having retired my first iPad. I have had all but two of the iPhone models and am firmly entrenched in the ecosystem. Am I a fanboy..No,as some of the direction the company is taking, IMHO, is now about profits and what they can squeeze out of the product line by doing incremental upgrades and calling them innovative.
I think the saddest part is that Tim & Co. keep saying there are great new products coming and they haven't stopped innovating. Steve was all about being different. Not sure if that's true anymore. My 2 Cents.
 
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I'm ready to replace my iPad 3, but unless they do something truly new with the iPad rather than just a spec bump and 'thinner', I'll just stick with using my iPhone more often and leave the iPad in my desk drawer.


I'm the same.. No need for an ipad really. I have my iphone and macbook air. I see no place for an ipad that is so locked down.
 
Not sure a lot of what you said counts as innovation. But I'm generally with you.

  • Touch ID for incredible advancements in security. *** Apple did a good job on this. Kudos
  • Larger screens on iPhones **** not really an innovation, they were late to market as every other company was offering 4'7 to 5.5 inch screen. Apple executives were spinning the smaller screens as the right size for one handed texting. Anyways, they did a good job on implementation for iphone 6 plus (even though the huge bezel at the top was an innovation that could have been left out)
  • iOS 8 & 9 advancements *** Pretty kick ass - does trial behind Android but I like it better.
  • Massive improvements with Maps and Transit coming shortly **** putting out a crappy product that is unusable and fixing it doesn't count as innovation in my books.
  • Fresh software and hardware designs *** absolutely with you
  • Apple Pay across iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch *** I'm with you on this, hopefully it expands..
  • Health app, Apple Watch Activity & Workout apps *** meh.. not impressed with Apple watch.. Generation two though.. hoping that is kick ass
 
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I cringe when i read or hear the line "Steve jobs would have never have allowed this" the fact is it's not Steve Job's Apple anymore, those days are gone. I don't think Apple is "doomed" i think that they have released some brilliant products since Steve Job's death, iPhone 6 and 6 plus, iPad's and the Apple Watch. Maybe these would of been produced differently under Steve Jobs, but they are still great products under Tim Cook and i'm sure Steve Jobs would not have wanted Tim as CEO if he wasn't certain that he could do the job.

I think it's great that Apple are moving forward, they obviously have a roadmap for future products, personally i hope that an iPad Pro is one of them, i think Apple is doing great under Tim Cook and i think Tim is doing a great job.
 
This saddens me. I've had my iPad mini 2 since it came out and have been thinking I'd like to go back to the larger screen but wanted to wait for an iPad Air 3 before doing so. Guess I'm stuck with the mini a little while longer.
 
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If this was true, the following would not be considered innovation:

  • Touch ID for incredible advancements in security.
  • Larger screens on iPhones to make reading/watching/viewing content easier, nicer and better.
  • iOS 8 & 9 advancements in vital features such as overall stability, continuity across all Apple devices, & multitasking.
  • Massive improvements with Maps and Transit coming shortly.
  • Fresh software and hardware designs under the direction of Jony Ive that match Apple's approach when it comes to design. Hate Jony? Then hate Steve, they were proclaimed best (and spiritual) friends in life.
  • Apple Pay across iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch to vastly improve security when it comes to making any kind of purchases.
  • Health app, Apple Watch Activity & Workout apps to improve the overall health and lives of users.
  • Apple Music to make listening to what you want to, when you'd like to an absolute breeze without burning your wallet to a crisp.
And damn, I could go on and on and on for hours. I won't waste my time though, and I'm sure I've missed an insane amount of hugely important innovative enhancements that Apple's taken on since October of 2011.

Steve's dead, but Apple is laughably not.
Oh dear, u listed finally bringing multi tasking to the table as innovation, and larger screens.. Oh dear.. Isn't innovation something fresh and new.. Your just is merely Apple copying existing technologies or ideas.. And not necessarily making them better.. The footprint of the 6plus is the b iggest of any 5.5in handset.. That's the opposite of innovation..
 
I use my iPad Air 2 every day, but based on what I use it for, I'm seriously thinking of shifting to a retina macbook as my 'go everywhere' device; if Apple don't do something interesting with the hardware on the iPad this year and they DO do a meaningful processor spec bump on the retina macbook next year (which I would say is inevitable), I may be shifting.
 
I really hope they do some actual innovation this time. Apple's prices on tablets are ridiculous. You can buy a new iPad mini 2 for $224, but if you drop it and crack the display they will literally ask you (with a straight face) to pay $250 to repair it. They're basically begging people to switch to android tablets.

It's astonishing they still try and sell the base model of the new iPad for $499. If anything has contributed to the huge decline of the iPad, that's it.

The worst part of all is that they're really just not that innovative. They keep making it thinner every year, which most people really don't care about, but that's about it. Until they invest some actual time to bring new technology to the device (not just iPhone leftovers like Touch ID) they're not gonna see a sales boost.

- Frustrated iPad lover.
 
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"Apple has faced six consecutive quarters of declining iPad sales year-over-year as the broader tablet market continues to decline".

Why? Because iOS is closed, is not fully compatible with Mac and is a toy.

Apple should make a true Mac tablet.
Right! I would love to have a Finder and a Torrent Program to download stuff on my ipad. Things like popcorntime should be also installable.
Its a shame that Apple wants to take control on my device.
 
I have been waiting since for over a year for this upgrade... now it won't be coming?

Apple and other tech. companies should announce how long "at least" before the next upgrade is coming.
 
I don't see a need. My iPad Air 2 is crazy powerful for a tablet. I bet it probably could run OS X if it had some more RAM.


Totally agree. The life cycle of the tablet is much longer then other portable devices in my experience. Perhaps it's because I use it less as an "input" device. Not sure if that is the reason, but I feel less compelled to have it in my update Que like I do for iPhone & laptops. (2 years)
 
The bonus here is that I can feel good about my iPad Air 2, its age and hopefully about it not being coded into extension as fast. I use it daily but don't need/want to buy another for quite some time unless its for someone else.

Meanwhile everyone else enjoys technical advancements & new tech.

I can't see there not being new iPad's this year. It doesn't make sense when you consider what the competition is doing.
 
Bunk... Apple will refresh with new standard iPad, it's the best selling iPad, why wouldn't they update it? I know the mini is popular but why would Apple Axe their main iPad and just do a mini this year. I think it would be too much of a gamble if Apple only released a mini... and the rumored "iPad Pro" I guess... as it would just be a larger iPad Air 2, (but more prone to bending and breaking though) I can see a larger tablet for internal or IBM use, but not general public.


Kal.
 
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Isn't this a contradiction? How can it have minor upgrades and be a slimmed down version of the iPad Air 2? If it's a Mini Air 2, I'll be buying one on launch day.

I would agree that upgrading it to a mini ipad air2 is more than a minor revision. I guess an A8 processor rather than an A9 qualifies it as minor but to me it still is a major update. I plan on getting one also. I'm thinking that due to the declining ipad market that Apple is going to alternate upgrades from now on in the Tick Tock manner with the mini being the tick.
 
And here I am reading on my iPad 2, not caring because I won't be upgrading till the Air 4 next year :D :D

More seriously... I doubt Apple would not upgrade its biggest selling iPad. Perhaps though the Air 3 will come in October with the Pro and the Mini will come in September. The reason I say that is that the Air 2 already does multitasking, its only the Mini that doesn't (out of the iPads) so perhaps they want to have a iPad Mini that can actually run all the new features in iOS 9 at launch day, thus a September release? Also I'd say the Mini 4 will be linked more to the Air 2 anyway being A8, making sense for it to be launched separately to the Air 3 and iPad Pro (which will probably both be A9X?).
 
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