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Antenna is still an issue even with Verizon iPhone, NOT HAPPY!!!!!!

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mrochester said:
For all the naysayers, here's my iPhone 4 when held normally in my left hand (which is the hand I use predominently to operate the phone). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DWCtEh0yRw

The reason I know it's an issue with the iPhone is because a different, low end phone on the same held network, held in the same way, in the same location, doesn't lose enough signal to drop to 'no service' like the iPhone does. Let's hope Apple get this fixed by the iPhone 5!
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You do realize that dumb phones typically have their internal antennas at different locations than most smart phones, right?
 
stewart715 said:
Dude. They fixed the dramatic signal loss issue in the Verizon version. You DIDN'T drop the call. Bars will go down on EVERY phone, including my Droid X for Verizon. The difference is, the AT&T iPhone 4 DROPS calls when you touch there, the Verizon phone has been proved, by many reliable sources, to not drop calls, even when "death gripped." If you want a phone that doesn't attenuate the signal when held, wait 100 years.
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you just made this up...your statement is not supported by facts
 
jw nyc said:
Well if you tightly squeeze your phone with your palm during a call then Steve is on point when he says "you're not holding it right."
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You don't have to tightly squeeze it. That's not how electricity works. All it takes is a little pin if not a finger and you can kiss your call goodbye.
 
chrmjenkins said:
You do realize that dumb phones typically have their internal antennas at different locations than most smart phones, right?
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It is a smartphone I am comparing it to, so that wouldn't be relevent, even if it were true! It's only the iPhone that has an external antenna to my knowledge. Most other phones, be they smart or feature phones, have an internal antenna.
 
mrochester said:
It is a smartphone I am comparing it to, so that wouldn't be relevent, even if it were true! It's only the iPhone that has an external antenna to my knowledge. Most other phones, be they smart or feature phones, have an internal antenna.
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Which may still differ. Most smartphones have it at the bottom, but not all. You need to know if you want to try and compare.
 
gdjsnyder said:
How is it "still" an issue, when it never was an issue?
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gdjsnyder said:
The thing is though, I can not reproduce it. There are many articles and videos saying they tried to reproduce it and could not. Even when I'm in a weak signal area, it can't be done on my phone, and I've gripped it for about six minutes the one time, still 5 bars.

Are there videos showing attenuation? Yes, I've seen them, I've read about them. But I do not believe it to be an issue. There are too many factors to consider in all of it. But Apple never thought it was an issue, and because I could not get it to happen (nor the other 30+ people I know with iPhone 4's), I believed it to not be an issue.
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The inability for people to think for themselves and not just about themselves is staggering.

Essentially your argument is as follows - I don't have cancer. Therefore it does not exist.

I don't think you realize just how incredibly bad your logic is.
 
This is getting ridiculous. I applied for the iphone 4 case program and i received it. however, i honestly don't think that made a difference. it's either the att network or the iphone 4.
 
chrmjenkins said:
Which model phone is it?
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Every iPhone, thats why even the original iPhone had the black plastic at the bottom, for the antenna.

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Not sure why everyone is arguing. If you have problems with signal dropping and don't like it, go return the phone. If you don't have problems then keep it. I fail to understand the need to come and complain - even though you realize that your complaints aren't going to change how your phone reacts.
 
I have tried several times to recreate this on my iPhone 4. I have only had a bar drop and I was squeezing the phone very tightly...it hasn't been an issue for me.
 
BriChi said:
how is it not an issue, the "death grip" on the iPhone 4 drops the signal down to nothing since it's been released, Why do you think they gave out free bumpers.. Maybe for some people with a really strong signal in different parts of the world it was fine, but in NY, it drops as soon as I cover the gap on the bottom left of the phone, call then drops

I figured it may have been moved to the top where no one holds the phone so you can't short it out, guess not
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We're not really gonna have this debate again are we? :rolleyes:
 
jpetticrew said:
They gave out free bumpers because it was a PR nightmare for them and they wanted to make customers happy.

Every phone does this. Every phone.
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Then there's something wrong with the four other smartphones I use. Sadly they are missing this feature.

I must say the clear calls they make, the ones that never drop...do get boring. :)
 
I'm amazed, if it's true I guess it's not the antenna that's the cause after all. I always figured the different placement of the antennas would put the issue to rest.

I plan to encase my iPhone in a Otterbox Defender anyway though, so I'm not worried.
 
Here we go again. Bridging the antennas will attenuate the signal at most 24db. If you have strong reception, you might not even lose a bar. If you're at the low end, however, your call might drop.

Anandtech has the most in-depth review regarding this issue. Interestingly, one of the other findings is that holding the phone actually improves wifi reception a bit. Overall, the iPhone 4 gets better reception than the 3GS and using a bumper actually attenuates the signal less than other smart phones.

Every phone's antenna attenuates when you hold it--the iphone 4 just does it more. Bottom line: If you live in a weak signal area and have a problem, get a case or bumper, or don't get the iPhone 4.
 
I've had 3 iPhone 4's and not once did any of them suffer from this problem to the point of me squeezing the phone as hard as I could.

So sucks for you, i've been there 3 times and no issues.
 
guys, with the Verizon iPhone, how can we get into field test mode to see the db, I only can find it for the att iphone
 
gdjsnyder said:
How is it "still" an issue, when it never was an issue?
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LOL! Denial! This was such a huge story covered by numerous media outlets, Apple goes so far as to give out free cases to help with the issue, Steve Jobs acknowledges it by saying "you're holding it wrong" but it never was an issue. Apple coolaid is powerful stuff eh?
 
lol at all the fan boys who deny this since day one. get over yourself. please explain to me how a more significant signal drop happens when I cover the antennae on my iP4 but not as bad when I cover the antennae on my 3GS? Same location. Ive tried many times comparing my iP4 and other family/friends to my 3GS and other friends 3GS's. The 3GS has never completely lost service, so please, explain that.

Honestly I dont care and dont really have a problem with it. Im extremely happy with my iPhone and a case fixes the issue entirely, but when I see all these people who are narrow minded enough to not realize theres a problem, it makes me laugh.
 
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