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You can swipe virtual Desktops on Windows with four fingers also. Or press CTRL+Alt+Arrow key, but I think you need precision touchpad for this to work, and since you're calling your 'utterly useless' I guess that's not the one you have.Reasons why I prefer the MacBook (Pro)/OS X;
Desktop clutter: I have 10-15 programs open sometimes and switching from one to another with alt-tab or windows-tab isn't always making me find the right one fast. On Mac OS I use different spaces to group several apps and that makes life so much easier... Swiping with four fingers to switch back and forth is superfast.
Trackpad: Dunno about your X1E, but mines trackpad is so much smaller and utterly useless compared to the MacBook.
Spotlight: cmd+spacebar is so much faster and cleaner to find stuff. On Windows the big square that pops up from the taskbar is no match.
Preview: hitting the spacebar to quickly preview a document before opening it is such a timesaver sometimes...
If some of these features exist in Windows 10, please enlighten me, cause that would make my life much easier
To start search just hit Windows key and start typing. If you need Preview-like spacebar functionality there is QuickLook application in MS Store for free.
On the other side - is there anything on MacOS that starting from Finder would allow me to open one image file from directory and just scroll to the next one without explicitly loading it upfront? Like on Windows I can double click one file and then just use arrow keys to display another one. In Finder I need to select all of them first and only then open Preview. I tried different, hefty priced, applications from App Store but they require you to open the application first and select directory from within it.
And that's what kills me. It used to be back in the day we Mac users could brag about machines that were both faster and more user friendly than Windows based PC's. The old PowerPC chips really held their own and, hell Photoshop was built with the Mac in mind.
But let's face it. Macs are no longer the speediest of machines anymore. The OS still shines, but Windows is catching up. So now Macs just usually boast a great OS and a high res 5K monitor. I guess I'm just questioning for myself how much the OS and price are worth to me vs. performance, upgradeability and ease of repair.
Darth Tulhu
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I feel there is no real reason to not use Windows in the enterprise, outside of Mac app exclusivity or something like that.
The enterprise cannot afford Apple's consumer-centric mentality. Steve was consumer-focused too, but the machines under him at least hedged between easy and simple and powerful.
Tim has embraced the post-PC era hard, and iOS is now the center of the Apple universe, when it used to be the Mac.
And make no mistake, iOS is a consumer product, albeit one that can be used professionally to an extent.
The Mac has been relegated to satellite status; something you use in addition to iOS, not the other way around like it used to be.
Those (like me) that have failed to adapt to (or accept) that paradigm shift are increasingly being left by the wayside.
I switched to Android years ago, and Windows and PC hardware have made truly great strides in recent years, to the point where I find myself asking:
"Why use Apple devices at all?"
I find myself doing everything I usually do on my work computer (Lenovo Thinkpad T470S) nowadays. My kids are begging me for a PC (after growing up all Mac) because of frustrations with Mac limitations (gaming, especially).
But perhaps the question I should ask myself is why did I use Apple products in the first place?
Windows is not the bug-fest it was when I switched almost 20 years ago. PC hardware is competing well with current Macs in hardware design and flexibility. Windows finally got multiple desktops (although it's still behind Apple in that area). After my switch to Android 6 years ago, I just don't really need the Apple ecosystem (I use Google services for that).
If Windows finally gets trackpads and multitouch right (still wonky in many machines), then my all-Mac household may be on it's death throes.
But, Apple's design is still my favorite, I'd rather use macOS, and my life has been simplified to the point where a return to iOS would be possible, if...IF Apple gives me something nice, at a price I can find reasonable.
So I'm waiting for my 2011 hardware to finally give up, and then I'll see.
The enterprise cannot afford Apple's consumer-centric mentality. Steve was consumer-focused too, but the machines under him at least hedged between easy and simple and powerful.
Tim has embraced the post-PC era hard, and iOS is now the center of the Apple universe, when it used to be the Mac.
And make no mistake, iOS is a consumer product, albeit one that can be used professionally to an extent.
The Mac has been relegated to satellite status; something you use in addition to iOS, not the other way around like it used to be.
Those (like me) that have failed to adapt to (or accept) that paradigm shift are increasingly being left by the wayside.
I switched to Android years ago, and Windows and PC hardware have made truly great strides in recent years, to the point where I find myself asking:
"Why use Apple devices at all?"
I find myself doing everything I usually do on my work computer (Lenovo Thinkpad T470S) nowadays. My kids are begging me for a PC (after growing up all Mac) because of frustrations with Mac limitations (gaming, especially).
But perhaps the question I should ask myself is why did I use Apple products in the first place?
Windows is not the bug-fest it was when I switched almost 20 years ago. PC hardware is competing well with current Macs in hardware design and flexibility. Windows finally got multiple desktops (although it's still behind Apple in that area). After my switch to Android 6 years ago, I just don't really need the Apple ecosystem (I use Google services for that).
If Windows finally gets trackpads and multitouch right (still wonky in many machines), then my all-Mac household may be on it's death throes.
But, Apple's design is still my favorite, I'd rather use macOS, and my life has been simplified to the point where a return to iOS would be possible, if...IF Apple gives me something nice, at a price I can find reasonable.
So I'm waiting for my 2011 hardware to finally give up, and then I'll see.
I think a lot of the best-quality laptops are not generally available a "regular" stores. For example, you can't get a Dell Latitude or Precision at a Best Buy and it is hard to play with a high-end Thinkpad at Best Buy.
Yeah 4 finger swipes between virtual desktops. 3 finger swipes between applications within that desktop. Are those "precision touchpad" only features?
No. The Windows 10 gestures should work on all touchpads. Maybe the 'precision touchpads' are more precise? (Very lame pun intended
).https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4027871/windows-10-touchpad-gestures
Gotcha. Thanks! I don’t have a non-precision touch pad to compare with
Edit: also thanks for the link. Learned a couple of new ones I didn’t know
Edit: also thanks for the link. Learned a couple of new ones I didn’t know
Oops! I misread (I only have precision touchpads too). In the link I provided MS states (last paragraph) 'Some of these gestures will only work with precision touchpads, so don't fret if a move won't work for you.'.
My bad
My bad
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Not sure, but that's what I remember reading when they introduced virtual Desktops. Even in the link that @AndyMacAndMic posted it says:
- Some of these gestures will only work with precision touchpads, so don't fret if a move won't work for you.
Yep. My bad. I already corrected myself in post #1934.
The beauty of the lack of proper updates is I haven't been upgrading my Mac every year now. In fact my last update was was in 2016 and I'm still very happy. There is no reason for me jump ship. I'll happily wait another year.
Funny, that was like seconds (less than a minute) before I posted
Yes. You pressed the 'Post reply' button seconds after me (or I did seconds before you)
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Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
Why not use Quick Look do this on a Mac?
Thanks! It didn't occur to me to that you're still in finder while this is open, and you can just highlight next file. Since I have a column view by default only the up/down works and I was trying always left/right
It is still not exactly what I was looking for because it displays every file, not only images, but will work for me.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
Thanks! It didn't occur to me to that you're still in finder while this is open, and you can just highlight next file. Since I have a column view by default only the up/down works and I was trying always left/right
I usually sort my files by type, which mitigates the issue somewhat.
This is how I usually view family videos, saved movies, and photos.
I rarely use Quicktime, iTunes, etc, except I do use VLC for certain file types quick look doesn't open.
It's one of the things I really love about the Mac.
Is there any way to make it work in full screen? You can no longer skip to the next one in full screen... bummer.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
Yes you can, although I find the control bar to be smaller when you go full screen.
I usually expand the window to fit when scrubbing through videos, but when watching a movie I just full-screen it.
There is a catch though, sometimes video restarts automatically after a certain point in Quick Look. I just go back to where I was, but it can be a pain when I'm watching on my TV, at which point I just open Quicktime or VLC for that.
I don't know how, all I have is "share, exit full screen and close" buttons while in full screen. Arrow keys don't do anything anymore. Are you on Mojave?
So, I got a Lenovo TP X1 Carbon, 6 Gen. Has the Hi-Res, Matt display. Running Win 10, and to me it's kind of "Meh". The Keyboard is really nice, admittedly. However, the rest is just really underwhelming. Could be that it's Windows, but not overly impressed.
Booted up a LIVE version of Fedora 29, and it runs better off of USB than Windows does on the SSD...
Booted up a LIVE version of Fedora 29, and it runs better off of USB than Windows does on the SSD...
That is not really informative: 'it is kind of meh'.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
I'm on Sierra (2011 hardware).
I did notice that in full screen quick look you cannot select other files (sorry about that, I was replying from memory).
That said, if you enlarge the window to full screen manually (by pulling the corners), the only difference is you don't get the black background, there is a negligible display size difference, but you do get the longer scroll bar I mentioned earlier.
Hope this helps.
I don't think Macs ever were speediest all around , but they were definitely exceptional at certain things and those things were focused around work and productivity .
As for gaming experience , I don't think it ever existed, the only game I had on PowerBook was "tranquility" I think it was called , with randomly generated music and geometric shapes , they only had a version for Mac on power and sgi workstations on mips initially, which made so much more appealing
I think Macs are still great , if you add a normal keyboard and some ports it will be a great tool, it's the attitude and focus of apple that's changed .
We just recently replaced my wife's older air with new MacBook pro without a touch bar and she absolutely loves it (and I love it too mostly for not blowing air so hard when she watches Netflix, unlike the air) , but her use case is completely different ... some emails, web and watching movies and for that it's a great machine , I just can't imagine using it as a work tool.
The Trackpad and 16x10 screen are still unmatched, however.
Ha. That’s one way of looking at it. I do need to replace my 2013 soon, but I used to upgrade my Mac every three years.
I’m also planning on using my iPhone 7 to its demise. Got a new battery in it not long ago when it was getting spent.