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I wonder if Apple is brining whatever gold they’re adding to the iPhone X to the Apple Watch. It looks different than the current rose gold aluminum Watch. Maybe it’s just the CGI but I’m skeptical.

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The current gold isn’t rose gold.
 
That would not be very reliable and actually worthless. With my Microsoft band, my UV exposure changed if there was a cloud overhead, shade from a tree, or if I walked indoors. Generic data from a weather service would really dumb down that feature.

I'm of a different mind.

The UVI will be for direct sun; ie. the worst case scenario. It tells me what to prepare for if I'm inclined to do such. There will be cases where that exposure will be mitigated (as you pointed out, various shade situations, etc), but knowing what the day could potentially have in store is quite helpful.
 
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They did. It was released back in October 2014 and it was called Microsoft Band. Microsoft Band 2 was released a year later but was shut down shortly after launch.
Haha...amazing Microsoft can make such brilliant software but their hardware just flat out doesn’t sell.
 
I wonder if Apple is brining whatever gold they’re adding to the iPhone X to the Apple Watch. It looks different than the current rose gold aluminum Watch. Maybe it’s just the CGI but I’m skeptical.

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These images convey pretty good why I'll probably never purchase one of these:
1 - Rectangular shape is absolute no-go. A bit female-ish, kinda
2 - Design looks kinda comic-ey
3 - Design looks like derived from a cheapo-blingy accessory shop. Looks like costume jewelery maximum acceptable price about 30 bucks.
4 - Given the price, life expectancy is just abysmal

Just not my cup of tea
 
If you believe the leaked screen measurement, the red rectangle below represents the new screen. Except the display corners will have to be rounded since I don’t think it’s possible to run the screen to less than 0.5mm from the edge of the body.

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Thanks for that. That looks really good, but it does not look like the screen in the leaked image. I can’t see any reason they wouldn’t put the watch face to fill as much of the usable screen area as possible, especially as the larger screen size will be a major selling point. But that picture clearly had a watch face no where near as large as the red box you showed, even accounting for curved corners. Time will tell though I guess.
 
Thanks for that. That looks really good, but it does not look like the screen in the leaked image. I can’t see any reason they wouldn’t put the watch face to fill as much of the usable screen area as possible, especially as the larger screen size will be a major selling point. But that picture clearly had a watch face no where near as large as the red box you showed, even accounting for curved corners. Time will tell though I guess.

If the watch face went edge to edge, there wouldn't be enough room for the complications in the corners. That is definitely a larger display than the current watches. It may not be as large as @PickUrPoison demonstrates, but it is larger.
 
Thanks for that. That looks really good, but it does not look like the screen in the leaked image. I can’t see any reason they wouldn’t put the watch face to fill as much of the usable screen area as possible, especially as the larger screen size will be a major selling point. But that picture clearly had a watch face no where near as large as the red box you showed, even accounting for curved corners. Time will tell though I guess.
It could be that the leaked screen dimension is not correct, but it’s Kuo who is usually good with dimensions. We'll know soon enough!
 

Left Dumb Watch | Right Smart Watch
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I don’t care about fancy technology. Your job is to feed me information, and the left one doesn’t even show the weekday. This product category is now mildly useful and no longer a total waste of money. And the trick is a bigger screen, is it even square now? Anyhow the watch face is center stage without any bezels. Good!
 
Just as a point of clarity...

Apple's resistance to 3rd party faces probably has very little to do with how those faces would look and is instead related to how those watch faces would perform. In order for 3rd party devs to be able to develop watch faces Apple would need to give devs control of the watch face itself, this presents a problem for Apple because presumably a poorly designed watch face could lead to problems with performance, battery life, and stability.
Perhaps this is a problem that will go away with time as newer devices are made available. Considering how many things are running on that one watch face, I really have to wonder if they've bumped the RAM on Series 4. Increased battery size and life (efficient chips) can also lead to more complicated faces that would otherwise drain the tiny battery in a few hours. If they provide an API where you can basically just skin the watch part and have a few zones for complications then that would be a good start. Then as older Apple Watches fall off in support for newer versions of watchOS they could keep adding things to the API to make it even more complex.

The other part that we both failed to consider is that Apple provides exclusive watch faces for lines like Hermes and Nike that could be copied. Though I doubt they would approve such copycat faces from third party developers, and could respond to take down notices if they do make it through. They may be worried about a flood of watch faces that copy other brands and since they're Apple they're more likely to be sued. That combined with everything you mentioned means they're just chilling for now.
 
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Left Dumb Watch | Right Smart Watch
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I don’t care about fancy technology. Your job is to feed me information, and the left one doesn’t even show the weekday. This product category is now mildly useful and no longer a total waste of money. And the trick is a bigger screen, is it even square now? Anyhow the watch face is center stage without any bezels. Good!
That left face is really basic compared to what you can use on Apple Watch right now. It is nowhere near representative of how many complications are currently available. But I get where you're coming from. The bigger screen is going to be really nice. I wouldn't mind even having a physically larger device (like 4-6mm diagonally) to get an even better experience than what we're getting with this bezel reduction. And no, the Apple watch has never been square, but rectangular. And no, it will still have some slight bezels around the outside where it curves away. I think in the future they could push this even more if they remove the 2.5D glass and make it thinner. I doubt they will have the face itself flow off the sides of the glass like Samsung does with their phones. They don't tend to think that's a good solution, likely due to legibility. But I think the 2.5D glass does feel nicer.
 
And no, the Apple watch has never been square, but rectangular.
I mean the new one, Series 4. It looks as if it could be square now. If it’s still a rectangle, the ratio might have changed? And that’s how they manage to put so many complications inside a bigger watch circle. A circle fits better into a more squarish rectangle then into a narrow rectangle.

#squaringthecircle
 
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I mean the new one, Series 4. It looks as if it could be square now. If it’s still a rectangle, the ratio might have changed? And that’s how they manage to put so many complications inside a bigger watch circle. A circle fits better into a more squarish rectangle then into a narrow rectangle.

#squaringthecircle
Agreed. For me I’d prefer a larger circle big enough to contain the current watch face so I don’t lose usable UI area for text, etc. But maybe it would be too big and weird. I just prefer circular watches in general.
 
Agreed. For me I’d prefer a larger circle big enough to contain the current watch face so I don’t lose usable UI area for text, etc. But maybe it would be too big and weird. I just prefer circular watches in general.

This is the current Apple Watch compared to a current Huawei:

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What's most interesting about this image is that the 38mm will end up with the display area of the current 42mm if these leaks and rumors all pan out. And the 42mm round watch will no longer hold the entire display within the circle. However, that's not to say that it can't be shrunk down to fit within the circle as a transition option (as they will to fit on the 38mm AW), in much the same way the iPhone Apps are enlarged to fit the iPad, where no customized iPad app exists. This is what I expect Apple to do when they eventually add a round watch to the lineup.
 
That Watch face looks way too busy. What are you supposed to be glancing at? I wouldn’t even know what to look at there’s just too much noise there. At least make it look nice, I don’t understand anyone saying how it does. Just a cluster of information slapped on the front with no thought put behind it. Then again that’s what I’ve been saying to myself about all of Apples software descions as of late.

I'll have to disagree on it being too much noise. Sure it is a bit busy, but I think it looks great. I also like that it has just about everything I want to be able to check at a moments notice on once screen. I wouldn't be surprised if you can modify it similar to the current Modular watch face allowing you to turn off pieces of it, that would make people like you and me both happy.
 
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Looking back, series 0 was a mistake and a rip off really and not ready for public use.

I don't agree. I've had the Series 0 from when they went on sale and have found it to be great device. The Outlook calendar integration and meeting reminders is great for work, and the breaking news stories from the Sky, BBC, or Google News apps are FAB, and message notifications are great to just glance at. Also the gym/health features are superb - I use those a lot.

The only issue I have with my Apple Watch now is battery life; From 100% in the mornings, I used to end most days at 11.30-ish PM with still 50% of battery left. However, nowadays, that's dropped to the mid-teens, and I've recently started getting the dreaded "only 10% remaining" message in the evenings.

Anyhow - I'm loving the look of the Series 4 and will definitely retire my Series 0 in a few weeks and upgrade.
 
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I’m as big an Apple Watch fan as anybody but isn’t it frustrating that you may have to upgrade just to get a new watch face?? Or are you referring to the slimmer bezels?

I would not be surprised to see Series 4 exclusive faces designed to take advantage of the new screen size and rounded corners. Frustrating - yeah I suppose - but technology advances and I would expect that this display on the current get watch would look really cramped and even more cluttered than it already does.
 
I think we may still see a round watch ... Hence the “round” in the event name. In the “leaked” images of the watch, you can easily see how the onscreen layout could be used on round face... Like attached, and the leak purpose to keep people off the trail so to speak.
 

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Well technically they call it just "gold" as there's no rose gold option in Series 3. The S3 gold is more brassy than the S2 rose gold and more coppery than the S2 gold so it's actually closer to a real rose gold (though with the matte aluminum finish). If you see it in person, the color really changes depending on the lighting and what bands you have it paired with. I'm not a huge fan as I like a yellower gold.
 
Well technically they call it just "gold" as there's no rose gold option in Series 3. The S3 gold is more brassy than the S2 rose gold and more coppery than the S2 gold so it's actually closer to a real rose gold (though with the matte aluminum finish). If you see it in person, the color really changes depending on the lighting and what bands you have it paired with. I'm not a huge fan as I like a yellower gold.
Ah ok. Anyway this photo/render doesn’t look like aluminum to me so perhaps they’re adding a stainless steel option that is more rose gold colored? Still not sure how they’d do it as I can’t see them doing gold plated anything.
 
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