There's only a tiny number of digital downloads on other services that actually offer lossless or near-lossless multi channel audio. It isn't widespread at all outside of physical discs. Supporting it now is kind of pointless.
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There's only a tiny number of digital downloads on other services that actually offer lossless or near-lossless multi channel audio. It isn't widespread at all outside of physical discs. Supporting it now is kind of pointless.
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I'm not worried about Disney, I think they'll upgrade to UHD as they are released. To date, Disney has only released 1 movie in UHD, Galaxy Quest Vol. 2. Remember, Disney is the only movie studio to date to upgrade SD digital copies to HD when you linked your iTunes and DMA accounts.
As far as your "all movies" quote. Apple can only upgrade the movies that the studios released in 4k so, don't expect literally all of your HD movies to be 4k over night. 4K UHD is still a young format, it is going to take a while for studios to upgrade there back catalogs.
I just want to know why Apple is willing to do this now but, they refuse to upgrade SD versions to HD?
Meh. Not enough channels right now. DTVNow blows them away.
My bet is they believe that the upgrade isn't compelling to most consumers, unlike SD->HD which is a clear upgrade to most consumers.
Now matter how lame the choice is, choice is still better. With that said, I'll probably get the 64 gb version. I will always opt to buy the most storage that I can at any given time. The more space means better caching and when dealing with 4K content you'll probably need a lot of it. When it works it's great, but it suffers from a lot of buffering issues - which is one of the reasons I prefer Vudu. I also think having more storage is for people who want to download a movie or two before they watch it, instead of watching the streamed version because let's face iTunes sucks at streaming content.
I'm curious as to how many "you don't need 4k since you can't tell the difference" and "Apple was right to not include 4K in the Apple TV 4" folks now think 4K is the greatest thing ever since Apple's finally jumped on the bandwagon (I guess when it comes to ATV, Apple skates to where the puck was 2 years ago).
I've been using a Roku 4 for 2 years and, while it's a great device and all, there are 2 reasons to use an ATV over it:
1) iTunes (why anyone would want to lock their movie content to a specific hardware vendor is beyond me but whatever)
2) You want all your apps to have the same look and feel. This is my only complaint with Roku devices. All the apps have completely different UIs. Even the onscreen keyboards can be different with some using qwerty and some using alphabetical. The ATV results in a much more seamless experience. Quite frankly, the Roku UI is pretty bad.
On the other hand, Roku is cheaper and you don't have to wait for an Amazon Prime app (wtf is taking Apple so long with this... they should have had that 2 years ago).
I've been using a Roku 4 for 2 years and, while it's a great device and all, there are 2 reasons to use an ATV over it:
1) iTunes (why anyone would want to lock their movie content to a specific hardware vendor is beyond me but whatever)
2) You want all your apps to have the same look and feel. This is my only complaint with Roku devices. All the apps have completely different UIs. Even the onscreen keyboards can be different with some using qwerty and some using alphabetical. The ATV results in a much more seamless experience. Quite frankly, the Roku UI is pretty bad.
On the other hand, Roku is cheaper and you don't have to wait for an Amazon Prime app (wtf is taking Apple so long with this... they should have had that 2 years ago).
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For me it was compelling because a) I can almost always tell the difference between various resolutions and most importantly b) the iTunes extras only came with the HD Versions. So i was salty when my old LOTR SD versions didn't include the hours upon hours of extras that came with the HD version and ended up buying the stupid things again, just to get it.
Really?
They added FLAC support, and E-AC-3 (DD+), which supports up to 15 channels of full-bandwidth audio and bitstreams up to 6144 Mb/s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital_Plus
IMHO, that's not so shabby.
Don't question it, just be glad they are doing it. Vudu and none of the other services did it and they are charging $29.99 for their UHD copies. Hopefully this means UltraViolet/Vudu will have to follow Apple's lead.
Are you serious?
Atmos for HT use is a joke compared to the pro implementation. And besides, there aren't more than 1,000 people in the entire world that have an Atmos HT setup.
But we are about 5 years away from having the compute-power necessary in a consumer device to have true, 128-channel Atmos:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Atmos
And besides, the ATV 4k supports E-AC-3, which can carry Atmos Objects.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-ne...olby-digital-plus-dd-atmos-over-hdmi-arc.html
If they could have done the upgrade of previous purchases from SD to HD
That would have been awesome! Oh well at least all of my HD movies will hopefully get up graded
That would have been awesome! Oh well at least all of my HD movies will hopefully get up graded
Are you for real? You talk an awful lot but I don't think you know what we're talking about...
No HDCP 2.2 on boxes like this, so no it won't work.I didn't see an Optical out; but something like this will take care of that need for $20.
https://www.amazon.com/Musou-Extractor-Optical-Splitter-Converter/dp/B06XDNJ6RM/
Again, no HDCP 2.2 devices split to optical.
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I think many of you are in for a shock if you think you will get surround sound without buying a new receiver. Good luck...
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We got faked out last time by their implementation of DD+ not allowing bitstream pass through. Hopefully they do allow native DD+ bitstream pass through so we can get ATMOS etc. and use a high bit rate in general which can sound darn close to lossless.
Ok hopefully this isn't a stupid question but I haven't seen it addressed anywhere.
I don't use my 3rd gen Apple TV for watching movies anymore as it largely became redundant when we got our 4K tv as the tv's onboard apps include things like Netflix and Amazon for 4K content.
Upgrading to the new Apple TV seems a bit ott just for iTunes content in 4K especially as my Mac mini which also is the grunt work behind my plex media server is connected directly by hdmi to my 4K tv, so any films I rent or purchase in iTunes I just stream direct in iTunes itself on my mac connected to my tv.
Will my mac be able to stream iTunes 4K content just like it currently does iTunes 1080p content? I ask because it being an old Mac mini it struggles to play downloaded 4K content (though streams web based 4K content like on YouTube just fine). I suppose the question is where is the grunt work done for streaming iTunes content at apples end? or at my macs processor?
Mark
I don't use my 3rd gen Apple TV for watching movies anymore as it largely became redundant when we got our 4K tv as the tv's onboard apps include things like Netflix and Amazon for 4K content.
Upgrading to the new Apple TV seems a bit ott just for iTunes content in 4K especially as my Mac mini which also is the grunt work behind my plex media server is connected directly by hdmi to my 4K tv, so any films I rent or purchase in iTunes I just stream direct in iTunes itself on my mac connected to my tv.
Will my mac be able to stream iTunes 4K content just like it currently does iTunes 1080p content? I ask because it being an old Mac mini it struggles to play downloaded 4K content (though streams web based 4K content like on YouTube just fine). I suppose the question is where is the grunt work done for streaming iTunes content at apples end? or at my macs processor?
Mark
What are you smoking?
It has E-AC-3 Support, which can carry Atmos and DTS 5.1 and 7.1
I have zero interest in the new iPhone, cell phones have capped out imo, the edge top edge screen is cool but not worth the price. But this new AppleTV 4K is a great update as is the TV app into Canada, I will be buying this and cutting the cable cord. Been awhile since Apple gave me a reason to buy.
But bro, you still have to have an HDCP 2.2 receiver with Dolby Vision capability or you won't get those things. You can't plug this apple tv into a receiver that isn't at least HDCP 2.2, which literally wouldn't be a thing if they just included a freakin optical port. Everyone who doesn't have an HDCP 2.2 receiver will have to upgrade. I'd bet on it.
I don't need 128 channels of audio in my home. My wife would kill me
With that being said, consumer Atmos is more than just additional sound channels, it also includes higher audio fidelity. I'm not a purist but my Xbox One S has Atmos support, would have been nice for Apple to follow along with the industry rather than save a buck or two on licensing fees and assuming we all use TV speakers.
Where is this an option in the current or beta of tvOS? I saw someone else bring this up as a benefit to the additional storage, and I said storage is only for apps and app related content (as far as I've seen in any developer docs), not for "pre-downloading" iTunes content - and it's not to be confused with pre-loading some of the content stream for buffering (even if this buffering mechanism downloaded the entire movie during the streaming, I've never seen anything in the SDK that alludes to a complete offline download for watching later). You know, as opposed to the very clear option on iOS/macOS to download the content for total offline viewing.