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Apple Announces 'Apple TV 4K' With 4K and HDR Video Powered by Faster A10X Chip

gnipgnop said:
There's only a tiny number of digital downloads on other services that actually offer lossless or near-lossless multi channel audio. It isn't widespread at all outside of physical discs. Supporting it now is kind of pointless.
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Dolby HD is everywhere. DolbyHD is lighting up frequently on my receiver. Heck, Netflix supports Dolby Atmos now as well.
 
For all of you hating on the remote, you really should think about a good programmable one instead.

I have Harmony remotes for all of my rooms and I am very happy with them. They work great with the Apple TV. The only thing I miss out on would be Siri, and I most likely wouldn't use it if I could (and I could always grab the Apple TV remote if I needed to).

I don't have a 4K TV yet as all of my current TVs are still running along fine. I'm a big fan of home theater and have some nice setups, but the cost to upgrade when my existing stuff still works fine is too high. My Panasoniv 65VT60 is still plenty good for my home theater, and when I do upgrade it will most likely be to a 4K projector. Then I will pick up the Apple TV 4K, or whatever the latest model is at that time.
 
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MacsRuleOthersDrool said:
Are you serious?

Atmos for HT use is a joke compared to the pro implementation. And besides, there aren't more than 1,000 people in the entire world that have an Atmos HT setup.

But we are about 5 years away from having the compute-power necessary in a consumer device to have true, 128-channel Atmos:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Atmos

And besides, the ATV 4k supports E-AC-3, which can carry Atmos Objects.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-ne...olby-digital-plus-dd-atmos-over-hdmi-arc.html
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You can't seriously believe that. AVSforum membership is over 1.2 million. If just 0.1% of them have Atmos setups, that's already more than 1,000 and I bet you my house that more than 0.1% of AVSforum members have an Atmos setup.
 
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MacsRuleOthersDrool said:
Are you serious?

Atmos for HT use is a joke compared to the pro implementation. And besides, there aren't more than 1,000 people in the entire world that have an Atmos HT setup.

But we are about 5 years away from having the compute-power necessary in a consumer device to have true, 128-channel Atmos:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Atmos

And besides, the ATV 4k supports E-AC-3, which can carry Atmos Objects.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-ne...olby-digital-plus-dd-atmos-over-hdmi-arc.html
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and if the Xbox can do it, there's nothing that says Dolby couldn't do a software update later similar to what happened with the Xbox 1S.
 
MacsRuleOthersDrool said:
Really?

They added FLAC support, and E-AC-3 (DD+), which supports up to 15 channels of full-bandwidth audio and bitstreams up to 6144 Mb/s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital_Plus

IMHO, that's not so shabby.
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This is weird... I just checked the specs on the aTV 4, and it says it also supports EAC-3. I've never noticed this before. Since Dolby Atmos can be part of a DD+ stream, does this mean that the aTV 4 that I already owned since can handle Dolby Atmos movies?
 
randian said:
Is it in fact consumer friendly? I buy most of my iTunes movies (those that don't have codes from discs) for $4.99-$6.99 on sale. I am happy to wait for such sales. Do you think these sales will be as frequent, or happen at all, now that you could get a UHD version for the same price?
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Yes.
 
bluespark said:
Ah, apologies -- I mixed up prior posts and thought you were referring to a video issue. I agree that it should have optical audio out.
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For sure. Anyone who's been paying attention the last 2 years with nVidia + HDCP 2.2 and Windows 10 complete inability to bitstream over optical/spdif when it used to, would have know about these issues. Apple must be full of tech illiterates who don't pay attention to anything outside the apple bubble...
 
Sill said:
This is weird... I just checked the specs on the aTV 4, and it says it also supports EAC-3. I've never noticed this before. Since Dolby Atmos can be part of a DD+ stream, does this mean that the aTV 4 that I already owned since can handle Dolby Atmos movies?
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You're right!

Good question!
 
Disney is barely doing anything in 4K

JeffyTheQuik said:
I thought that the deal was, "all movies bought in HD would be upgraded to UHD."

You'd think with Lorraine Jobs owning a large chunk of DIS, that would be a given, however, when watching the keynote, I was distracted.
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[doublepost=1505254192][/doublepost]They literally said this in the article and in the event

surfnode said:
I wonder if you will get free 4K upgrades for existing iTunes titles you already own?
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killr_b said:
Are you for real? You talk an awful lot but I don't think you know what we're talking about...


No HDCP 2.2 on boxes like this, so no it won't work.


Again, no HDCP 2.2 devices split to optical.

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I think many of you are in for a shock if you think you will get surround sound without buying a new receiver. Good luck...
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https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=101&cp_id=10113&cs_id=1011310&p_id=15747&seq=1&format=2

Six HDMI inputs, all supporting HDCP 2.2. Two HDMI outputs, plus split out stereo audio AND multi-channel (surround) toslink digital audio.

You are welcome.
 
4K/UHD is not the most important feature. HDR is the future of visual entertainment,
mmm1345 said:
and if the Xbox can do it, there's nothing that says Dolby couldn't do a software update later similar to what happened with the Xbox 1S.
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I think the main reason for all this "no direct pass through" so far is Siri. That causes Apple to transcode all audio.
Actually, aTV 4 already supported DD+/E-AC3 since day 1.
Still, it will never pass a DD+ bitstream out of it's HDMI port.
It only passes multichannel PCM. You can enforce DD5.1, but then it simply re-encodes everything to DD/AC3 and you again lose DD+7.1 sound.
Dolby Audio Support on Apple TV
 
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