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In the US, carriers lock down their phones to sell contracts - thats their business motives. Sadly all the national carriers use differing network technologies making it difficult to sell phones unlocked and their high prices makes subsidization the only viable business model. Carriers exert huge amounts of control regarding handsets to entice long term contracts. People just don't "switch carriers" all that frequently.

Thanks for that answer. I wasn't actually talking about contracts, but about exclusivity. With the 3G, I opted for a 2 year contract to subsidise the cost of the phone too, but I had a choice of providers. There are at least 5 carriers all offering competing plans for the iPhone 4, so we're quite spoilt for choice.

You hear a lot of complaints from international customers about paying higher prices than in the US, but I'd take our system any day over having no choice of carrier.
 
WOW! Imagine if the white iPhones were available too. They could've easily surpassed in 2 million in 3 days.

What's that about Apple losing steam again naysayers?

While that may be somewhat true, the white phone probably wouldn't have increase sales by much. There are a lot of people that bought the black one because the white one wasn't available. I'll bet a very small amount of people actually waited for the white iPhone.
Anyway, awesome for Apple. DIE MR. DROID!! :D
 
I can't believe the audacity that some of you people have in here.

Just hold it a different way, or move a finger around!???

Are you just so blinded by the fact that this is an enherit flaw. If Microsoft came out with a phone with this flaw you guys would be jumping up and down pointing fingers and laughing. Get your heads of out Apple's ass.

Geez.
 
In the US, I doubt it. I called ATT and asked to buy an iphone, full cost, and get a data plan to match the ipad. They said no way. I must have voice. With no cell coverage at home, that's not an option. But to use it as an ipod with gps, a camera and data everywhere (more or less) else, I would like the ipad plan.

AT&T has a home cell transmitter that connects over the internet you can have for home reception. Handles 4 devices simultaneously.
 
How many devices are still stuck on 1.6? Half?

My girlfriend is stuck on 1.6. I would have thought there would have been an upgrade. She kind of hates her Android 1.6 because the battery life is pathetic (can't possibly make it through a day) and it does weird buggy things like ask for a phone number sometimes to reply to an SMS. But then the phone does some neat things as well and it is on Verizon, so there aren't nearly as many call drops as on AT&T. But if the iPhone 4 had been out when she bought her Eris, she probably would have switched.
 
2 of the 1.7 million

My wife and I both picked up new iPhone 4s at our local AT&T store onopening day (we pre-ordered), so count us as two very happy iPhone 4 owners. We can both replicate the signalmeter drop symptoms by holding our fingers to bridge the antennas - but we haven't had a single issue in real world use.

I did have a technical issue though. My phone's mic wouldn't work on speakerphone, FaceTime, or video recording. But it worked for everything else. Really strange. But a quick trip to the Apple Store and they verified the problem and replaced my 32gb iPhone 4 on the spot. That's just one more reason to appreciate Apple - they make great products, and when there is a real, repeatable problem they make it right.

I'm posting here to help represent the 1.6 million very happy and satisfied iPhone 4 purchasers (assuming about 10% are unhappy in some way).
 
Big congrats to Apple and to those holding aapl right now.

My condolences to the haters. Sorry, for your sickness.

cheers and ciao baby
JohnG
 
YG17, if the shoe fits, then wear it!

I wish all these trolls would be banned from the site :(

Laguna, simple cause GOOGLE, and other phone companies are haters. They envy apple's success. You know you're doing something write when you have more "HATERS". How come the Android looks like a palm throw-back from the 90's ? I thought we were ova that. It's like Windows Mobile a POS.
 
In the US, I doubt it. I called ATT and asked to buy an iphone, full cost, and get a data plan to match the ipad. They said no way. I must have voice. With no cell coverage at home, that's not an option. But to use it as an ipod with gps, a camera and data everywhere (more or less) else, I would like the ipad plan.


Do you have internet at home? You could get an AT&T Microcell

And you get unlimited data and minutes. ( which you better, because they're milking YOUR internet! )

This sort of thing works great for me. I live in a dead zone and could not even make a reliable call before this.
 
That's great for you. Unfortunately, not all of us can say the same thing.

You're lying -- you don't own an iP4. Why bother posting on this site? Seriously ... it's like me trolling on the Chevrolet site to rip on some model of car that I have no interest at all. Get a hobby.
 
You're lying -- you don't own an iP4. Why bother posting on this site? Seriously ... it's like me trolling on the Chevrolet site to rip on some model of car that I have no interest at all. Get a hobby.

Seriously? I've had the phone since the 23rd. I ordered it from ATT and it was delivered by UPS on the 23rd. I have better things to do than lie about having this phone if I didn't.

I called Apple Care the day I got the phone and complained about this reception issue. I was given a free bumper (which isn't scheduled to be delivered until Wednesday) and told that they would get back to me within 24 hours. They didn't get back to me. I called again the next day and was told that they were aware of the issue and to expect some sort of announcement soon. I still haven't heard any announcement.

Are you calling every person who has this same problem a liar as well?
 
What is funny is that a solid majority of people complaining about reception issues do not own the IP4 OR own competing devices and spend all of their sad lives trolling Mac rumors.

Yg17 is the perfect example of someone who is always first in a news thread to trash the iPhone or iPad and talk about how great android is. Must be a sad life to see your personal worth through a smartphone!


I have my IP4 and iPad and am happy to discuss how the use them to make life better or troubleshoot problems with other users, but I don't go to android forums to trash those devices because i don't see my self worth through my gadgets!
 
As self-professed “fanboi” and early adopter of everything Apple plus avid reader of MR, I am deeply discouraged by Jobs sense of complacency, unconstructive retorts, and most recent display of lack of respect to their most loyal customers’ intelligences evidenced by Jobs email statement or comment on the IP4 signal/design. I have braved and suffered through many ATT horrendous network thorns and issues deriving from dropped or missed calls NYC while faithfully handing fistful of dollars every month for their lousy “over promise/ under deliver network services” just to enjoy Apple IPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS over these years. Yes, IPhones have been good to me and cannot imagine living without it. But this recent IP4 signal issue and Jobs lack of concern or candor about the issue, leaving users having to contend with MORE potential signal loss, dropped calls, missed call, etc. but this time due to the “brilliant” IPhone 4 hardware and design itself. This is BIG f**ing step backward and I refuse to accept Apple’s terms or recommended solution of paying Apple $30 more for their branded bumper so to make a call. This is absolutely ridiculous and untenable position for Apple as Jobs whole CREDIBITITY at the line.
 
Yg17 is the perfect example of someone who is always first in a news thread to trash the iPhone or iPad and talk about how great android is. Must be a sad life to see your personal worth through a smartphone!

I have an iPad. I like it. I've never trashed it. I would prefer an Android tablet better, but there aren't really any available now.
 
Don't give a damn. Where's the ma-***** firmware update for the reception issues?
 
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