Wake me up when there's a sufficient 4G network deployed and the devices can utilize it without smoking thru the battery.
Then I'll care.
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Apple Announces iPhone 4 with Retina Display, HD Video Recording, More
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Wake me up when there's a sufficient 4G network deployed and the devices can utilize it without smoking thru the battery.
Then I'll care.
dont get me started on german t-mobile. they take extra money for a phonecall just because its the iphone. you pay 5 $ for 10 minutes calling someone.
for 60 dollars you get 200 mb surfing bandwidth and every mb over that 200 costs almost 1$. download 5 Games and you have a 500 $ Bill. But you may get the complete plan for only 200$ a month. with O2 you have 10 cents for a minute of a phonecall and for 16 $ a full flatrate for internet. also you pay only what you are using...so if you never call someone you pay 0 $.
even if i buy the iphone without netlock for 1500$ i feel like i get away cheaper then getting this t-mobile devlish contract.
Apple should give the Iphone to at least 2 companies so one is not abusing its exklusivity.
for 60 dollars you get 200 mb surfing bandwidth and every mb over that 200 costs almost 1$. download 5 Games and you have a 500 $ Bill. But you may get the complete plan for only 200$ a month. with O2 you have 10 cents for a minute of a phonecall and for 16 $ a full flatrate for internet. also you pay only what you are using...so if you never call someone you pay 0 $.
even if i buy the iphone without netlock for 1500$ i feel like i get away cheaper then getting this t-mobile devlish contract.
Apple should give the Iphone to at least 2 companies so one is not abusing its exklusivity.
People are saying this is a let down because: 1) We already knew what was coming, 2) None of the announced specs are super amazing, other than the screen, 3) there are currently phones available with the announced features PLUS more. We expect Apple to be on the breaking edge of technology; they didn't meet that expectation with the iPhone 4. They're 1-2 steps behind the game with this update...
That's what happens when people jump around the internet reading rumor, after rumor, after rumor from "analysts" that have no idea what they're talking about.
I'm very excited about the new iPhone, looks amazing!
Every year it honestly never fails. These discussions never become new. . . they express how Apple "failed" But then Apple will sell like hotcakes.
alright thanks for being polite.
I guess I'll only upgrade to the 3gs, 9.1 is only needed for it to work. unless there's something I don't know, so correct me if I'm wrong.
thank god that AT&T is grandfathering the unlimited data plans for the new iPhone. I use way more than 2GB a month on my phone.
When the iPhone could not load the NYT website and someone yelled "Try Verizon!" for a moment I thought Steve would say "You know what? You´re right! Let´s try Verizon." and select Verizon as the carrier, to a thunderous applause from the audience.
I´m pretty sure the earth would move from its orbit by 0.00001138º due to the millions of people jumping of joy at that announcement.
Too bad it didn´t happen!
Overall iPhone 4 = great!
Keynote = One of the most boring ones I´ve seen.
If you live in Mexico as your 'location' states, why do you care? wouldn't you be on telcel or something? maybe even have <gasp>options?</gasp>
But yeah, it would have been cool. As someone else posted, new features (like facetime or tethering) don't mean sh*t if the carrier won't support them.
And that is another reason jailbreaking will continue to thrive, now where is my next unlock?
Steve thanks for making up my mind on what I was going to buy. AT&T playing games with their pricing and the Iphone 4 with lack of luster Im moving to Sprint and EVO 4G much better phone for the cost and the plan and early termination.
I really was hoping for more than what Gizmodo showed us about this phone.
Also where was the news about Mac Pro, I-TV and MAC Mini arrggg
Also did Steve have to go over the IADs and the Iphone OS from three months ago Again. Borrring I would have been pist sitting there thru this as well they must not know how to run a network requiring everyone to turn off WIFI.. What why not use that fancy AT&T Service (Oh cause it sucks)..
I really like Apple products but this was a let down by AT&T and Apple.
I really was hoping for more than what Gizmodo showed us about this phone.
Also where was the news about Mac Pro, I-TV and MAC Mini arrggg
Also did Steve have to go over the IADs and the Iphone OS from three months ago Again. Borrring I would have been pist sitting there thru this as well they must not know how to run a network requiring everyone to turn off WIFI.. What why not use that fancy AT&T Service (Oh cause it sucks)..
I really like Apple products but this was a let down by AT&T and Apple.
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OK - I love the iPhone 4, def gonna get one - I have the old original Edge one at the mo' got that in '07 sooooo loooong ago! Now that I've seen the press shots I'm gonna go with the black, the white just looks a little too Stormtroopery and somehow cheaper looking?
Like some others here - I am a bit disappointed that there was no mention of the Mac platform at all. Especially since we all knew about the phone weeks ago and it is a developers conference after all! Perhaps further announcements will come out during the rest of the week - hope so - I make my living using a Mac and I couldn't do it with an iPhone or iPad, so come on Apple Mac sales are up, where's the love?
OK - I love the iPhone 4, def gonna get one - I have the old original Edge one at the mo' got that in '07 sooooo loooong ago! Now that I've seen the press shots I'm gonna go with the black, the white just looks a little too Stormtroopery and somehow cheaper looking?
Like some others here - I am a bit disappointed that there was no mention of the Mac platform at all. Especially since we all knew about the phone weeks ago and it is a developers conference after all! Perhaps further announcements will come out during the rest of the week - hope so - I make my living using a Mac and I couldn't do it with an iPhone or iPad, so come on Apple Mac sales are up, where's the love?
Speak for yourself. As a 20 year Apple user and a fan did not think iPhone 4 is a turd. Apple never ever delivers the "best" hardware wise. They never have they never will. They are a software company which keep a tight lid on hardware. You use a mac because you like the usability of the OS, not because it's faster than a PC as hardware, since it never is. You don't use an iPhone, even the first iPhone, because hardware wise it was the most advanced phone out there, because it wasn't. You like the iPhone OS, so you use the iPhone. Yes the sleek designs of their hardware helps marketing and sales a LOT, but the main focus with Apple is always software and usability. I don't know what kind of an Apple consumer are you if no 64GB is a "letdown" for you.
That's how I feel now. I know the iPad is supposed to fill a different need, but this is kinda a peek at what the iPad 2 will be like in terms of hardware.
Something is wrong here. If you go onto the website it tells you the 3GS needs 10.5.8 but on the store it says 10.4.11. So I am wondering if 10.5.8 on the site is actually a typo error for the iPhone 4 and it should really say 10.4.11.
Yawn...
Hey Steve, you can't afford to bring your C-game while Android looks like they're more in tune with market demands. You're bringing video conferencing as some kind of breakthrough? The Android people have to be laughing themselves stupid right now.
How about a concrete definition of what precisely is grounds for an app to be rejected? You should have more than glossed over people's concerns over the app store's seemingly capricious approval process. Android developers will develop a critical mass in the very near future and how long do you think you'll get development firms to invest in apps for your platform if they cannot guess until the app is done if it will be approved or not?
How about having iOS4 ready today or at the barest of minimums a date for release? You announced a bunch of the features several months ago and you don't have anything more concrete than "soon"? Google throws down the gauntlet with 2.2 and a "trust us, you'll love it when we finally deliver it" is the best you can do?
Instead what we have is the tired Apple refrain of "look how good our monitors are" as though that can make up for features currently being delivered (or will be by the end of the month) by your competitors. Guess what Steve? Not many people are that interested in watching a high def movie on their iPhone. Cram all the pixels you want into the iPhone, it won't make up for a lack of mobile WiFi hotspot, lack of 4G capabilities, lack of replaceable batteries, being tied to an already overtaxed 3G network (if you're lucky enough to live/work in a major metropolitan area), and most importantly the perception that now iOS is having to play catch up with Android. Android phones still look like a second-rate iPhone, but that won't last forever.
Then how about an update (any word at all) about MacOS? This is the WWDC. These are the people writing apps for all your platforms, not just the iOS devices. What about 10.7? Anything new for iLife (beside iMovie for your phone)? How about iWork? Heck, I'd have taken a real cool announcement for Aperature over a lecture on anti-aliasing.
Hugely blown business opportunity here. It might have been better to postpone the iPad launch until WWDC if this was all they had to show us.
Hey Steve, you can't afford to bring your C-game while Android looks like they're more in tune with market demands. You're bringing video conferencing as some kind of breakthrough? The Android people have to be laughing themselves stupid right now.
How about a concrete definition of what precisely is grounds for an app to be rejected? You should have more than glossed over people's concerns over the app store's seemingly capricious approval process. Android developers will develop a critical mass in the very near future and how long do you think you'll get development firms to invest in apps for your platform if they cannot guess until the app is done if it will be approved or not?
How about having iOS4 ready today or at the barest of minimums a date for release? You announced a bunch of the features several months ago and you don't have anything more concrete than "soon"? Google throws down the gauntlet with 2.2 and a "trust us, you'll love it when we finally deliver it" is the best you can do?
Instead what we have is the tired Apple refrain of "look how good our monitors are" as though that can make up for features currently being delivered (or will be by the end of the month) by your competitors. Guess what Steve? Not many people are that interested in watching a high def movie on their iPhone. Cram all the pixels you want into the iPhone, it won't make up for a lack of mobile WiFi hotspot, lack of 4G capabilities, lack of replaceable batteries, being tied to an already overtaxed 3G network (if you're lucky enough to live/work in a major metropolitan area), and most importantly the perception that now iOS is having to play catch up with Android. Android phones still look like a second-rate iPhone, but that won't last forever.
Then how about an update (any word at all) about MacOS? This is the WWDC. These are the people writing apps for all your platforms, not just the iOS devices. What about 10.7? Anything new for iLife (beside iMovie for your phone)? How about iWork? Heck, I'd have taken a real cool announcement for Aperature over a lecture on anti-aliasing.
Hugely blown business opportunity here. It might have been better to postpone the iPad launch until WWDC if this was all they had to show us.
I'd love to see a 3G iPod Touch for the occasional usage out in the field. I'd probably end up never using it though. I'm saturated often enough with wi-fi when I need it.
My yearly pay as you go minutes keep rolling over. I managed to use a record setting 70 minutes last month.
Mac Pro updates usually come towards the end of the conference, so expect something towards Friday I'd say.
what i meant was the base model for 3GS is 16GB, so why are they offering an 8GB model? shouldn't they be clearing their existing 3GS stock instead of paying more money to build 8GB models? what are they gonna do with the 16GB and 32GB models?
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This keynote is yet another example of the switch from Apple as a computer company that makes mobile phones to a mobile phone company that makes computers.
It may not sound like much of a difference but it is the beginning of the end for the iMac and Mac-pro.
I don't think that Apple is spending a lot of time worrying about bringing out things like new displays.
This keynote is yet another example of the switch from Apple as a computer company that makes mobile phones to a mobile phone company that makes computers.
It may not sound like much of a difference but it is the beginning of the end for the iMac and Mac-pro.
I don't think that Apple is spending a lot of time worrying about bringing out things like new displays.
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Seriously though...short of putting the 'standard' features you expect from a phone into it (which I *think* they finally managed to get sorted with iOS4) there's little more to do now. They have screen tech to last at least 5 years, so no more 'enhanced display' or 'new backlight' updates.
They've got the newest/fastest data network tech, so no new 'faster wifi/faster connectivity'.
They've got everything that everyone has wanted since the first iPhone - no features that were left out are remaining! All they can now do is bump specs and lower prices.
(P.S I dont side with the iPhone or Droid. I've had an iPhone (orig) iPhone 3g, iPhone 3g
