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Apple Announces iPhone 4 with Retina Display, HD Video Recording, More

The iPhone is back in the game!

Finally, it's nice to see a decent upgrade from Apple. I'm excited about the higher resolution. My only disappointment is the battery life. If Apple clans that it's 40% better, that is still not exceptional. I wish they forgot this "thinnest smartphone ever" thing and just put a decent battery in that thing.

I kind of thought that they wouldn't risk of having more RAM in a phone than in the iPad. A larger screen area would be nice too.

Has the volume been increased?

Will the UK have the iPhone 4 soon? I don't want to wait until September.
 
Dammit. I wanted it today. :(

Oh well. I'll clear the calendar for the 24th. :cool:

It kind of sucks that all the hype kills part of the fun. Some of the fun is finding out you guessed right or that a story that leaked a week ago turns out to be true... but I really like the Christmas feel of not knowing what's coming and then letting your jaw drop at the announcements.
 
8740ridgeroad said:
That is my thought exactly! I have a MacBook Pro, iPhone 3GS and the iPad 3G but I can't buy the most recent iPhone at the discount because they released it less than 18 months since the last new phone.

It is disappointing to be an avid Apple fan but have to pay more for a phone than a newbie to the bandwagon?!?

C
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If you bought a subsidized handset recently, what makes you think they would pay you another subsidy on a brand new handset right now? Would you be willing to extend your contract 2 years and double your termination fee?

The 6 month offer is nice. I will definitely take advantage.
 
Nuvi said:
We have had "facetime" since 2003 on 3G networks. There is standard for that... which allows you to place video calls between any video enabled phone on the network. So WTF is Apple FaceTime... Wifi video chat, thats so mobile...
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Without even seeing the spec for facetime, i can tell you it blows the crap out of the ITU-T specification for H.263, which manages QCIF or CIF over a 3G network. Once they work out a 3G arrangement with the networks whereby they get a bit of cash, you'll see it's use explode.
 
Stu Allen said:
Something is wrong here. If you go onto the website it tells you the 3GS needs 10.5.8 but on the store it says 10.4.11. So I am wondering if 10.5.8 on the site is actually a typo error for the iPhone 4 and it should really say 10.4.11.
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I could not even find that info on a site for the 3GS, can you give me the link?

and I'm thinking maybe it's not the phone version that matters, but maybe the itunes version needs to be 9.2 for the iOS4 and not the phone version itself.

which would explain why some pages say one thing and some say the other(because they have not been updated yet)

thanks, also!
 
wyseguyonline said:
Yawn...

Hey Steve, you can't afford to bring your C-game while Android looks like they're more in tune with market demands. You're bringing video conferencing as some kind of breakthrough? The Android people have to be laughing themselves stupid right now.

How about a concrete definition of what precisely is grounds for an app to be rejected? You should have more than glossed over people's concerns over the app store's seemingly capricious approval process. Android developers will develop a critical mass in the very near future and how long do you think you'll get development firms to invest in apps for your platform if they cannot guess until the app is done if it will be approved or not?

How about having iOS4 ready today or at the barest of minimums a date for release? You announced a bunch of the features several months ago and you don't have anything more concrete than "soon"? Google throws down the gauntlet with 2.2 and a "trust us, you'll love it when we finally deliver it" is the best you can do?

Instead what we have is the tired Apple refrain of "look how good our monitors are" as though that can make up for features currently being delivered (or will be by the end of the month) by your competitors. Guess what Steve? Not many people are that interested in watching a high def movie on their iPhone. Cram all the pixels you want into the iPhone, it won't make up for a lack of mobile WiFi hotspot, lack of 4G capabilities, lack of replaceable batteries, being tied to an already overtaxed 3G network (if you're lucky enough to live/work in a major metropolitan area), and most importantly the perception that now iOS is having to play catch up with Android. Android phones still look like a second-rate iPhone, but that won't last forever.

Then how about an update (any word at all) about MacOS? This is the WWDC. These are the people writing apps for all your platforms, not just the iOS devices. What about 10.7? Anything new for iLife (beside iMovie for your phone)? How about iWork? Heck, I'd have taken a real cool announcement for Aperature over a lecture on anti-aliasing.

Hugely blown business opportunity here. It might have been better to postpone the iPad launch until WWDC if this was all they had to show us.
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How about you actually wait until WWDC is over and then QQ if there were no new announcement on other fronts than iPhone?
 
I have to say that as an event, this was a big letdown for me.

Yes, the iPhone 4 is pretty cool with new features and such, but this is ALL Apple talked about for 2 hours?! No Mac?!...No iPods?! No Verizon/other carriers?! No new software or major OS bells and whistles?

To me, Apple now seems like a Cell Phone company...seriously...the CEO gets up on stage for 2 hours and 100% talk is about the latest iPhone. zzzzzzzz And as Jobs stated, he was just talking about 8 new features...2 hours for 8 features? He totally milked the clock.

One feature, the 24% thinner point, seems unnecessary. I have never heard of anyone complain of the iPhone 3G's size...why not leave it the same and stuff it with more storage space?

Again, like the new iPhone but this is supposed to be a Developers conference right?...and all the yapping is about the next iPhone when Apple (supposedly) makes other devices that people can develop stuff on.

-Eric
 
Shellbo6901 said:
way to be nice about it. but I'm asking because my birthday is this week, and I get to get a present, but i can't get an iphone and the operating system too. so i need to know if i should just get the 8gb 3gs(if it doesn't need higher than 10.4), not get a new phone at all, or get the iPhone 4 and use my PC instead of my mac.
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THIS MAY HELP YOU :D you are fine with the 3Gs and 10.4 depending on the hardware you currently have, the upgrade to 10.6 (really a FULL copy) can be picked up for 29$ RETAIL..
 
IPhone 4 - Italy Availability

So when is the new iPhone 32GB supposed to be available in Italy. I want one but I want it factory unlocked.
 
I thought it was awesome, lots of additions to this model. I love the new design. Love the display resolution. I just wish that it had more storage space with it recording in 720p and all. I would upgrade but i just got my 3GS at the end of the summer last year and I'm not eligible. :(
 
theITGuy said:
Still yet to meet someone with an android device...and yes a lot of my friends are tech geeks...:rolleyes:

-J.-
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I work with several people that have Droids. My sister in law has a Samsung Moment. A buddy of mine has the G1.

I may be switching to the Evo.

Android devices are definitely making a mark.
 
Two point of views I see on internet:

1. Fanboys (iSheep) and teenagers who just discovered Apple/smartphone
"That's so cool, I just wonder if I'm gonna let my BB because the Iphone looks so slick with the better screen and folders and stuff, plus wow it got a 5mgp camera and Flash ! And there's this cool gyroscope thing."

2. Techies and educated people
"Wow what a surprise! Kidding, the new iPhone still looks like a toy and it's not gonna get any better with all the people having the same plastic gadget with their puppy/sports cars/glitters wallpapers.

Folders and multitasking? Wow I've been doing that for a year, only better, so the only surprise here is...iAds? Or maybe this I4 to I4 Wifi only Facepal..Facetime (and by the way, what about the accounts needed...)?

At least it got a 5mgp with Flash (not Adobe's on duh!) like any other phone, but what's that gyroscope thing for again ? Ma, doesn't matter cause I'll be able to **** my eyes even more with a 4x resolution Doodle Jump and Winnie the Poohs story...."
 
What about those who don't want or need a new iPhone

Great keynote address for those wanting or needing an upgrade to their iPhones but for the rest of us, who are either happy with the iPhone they have (me with French and UK iPhones 3G) or who are not interested in the iPhone, a bit of a let down.

What did I hope for and missed:

1) 10.6.4
2) Mac Pro update
3) Mac Mini update
4) iPod updates
5) Something useful from Apple TV
6) Timetable for 10.7
7) Slate/tablet pointing device that is more than an Apple branded Wacom

Underwhelmed - yes I guess I was.

Wilson
 
micro sim

I have a question about micro sim.

I currently have an iPhone 3G. I am planning on pre-ordering the new iPhone 4. When the new phone arrives at my door what kind of procedure am I looking at to get it up and running? I am assuming they will ship it with a new sim and when I plug in to itunes it will set up for me?

Just curious since I know very little about sim and micro sim. Any info is appreciated, thanks. I'm looking forward to the new iPhone.
 
You haters are crazy. This thing is fantastic. If it had a feature to allow you to time travel, you'd still find something to cry about.
 
OK, just went though the whole conference,

Well, I'm moderately impressed, not sure duper hyped but impressed.

+Design, love it

+Screen looks great, but still remains to be seen how it compares to AMOLED/S-AMOLED.

+Battery is good news

+Gyroscope - Although not sure about it's use for now.

+Camera, I'm really really glad that Steve highlighted that they are not chasing megapixels but are rather improving the sensors/optics, if Apple says/does something everyone copies so hopefully other manufacturers copy it, no need for 15 and 20MP camera, or even 12 for that matter, 5 is perfect with 8 being an absolute max. That said that we'll still have to see how good the pictures and videos look.

+Wifi N

Don't care about the video calling at all.

We're still not sure what that A4 is clocked at

RAM?

GPU?

-iAds...... you know you're going to still pay the full price for the application and now you'll also get ads in it too.

-Only 32GB?

-Multitasking? that's just an app suspension, you can't load a page and do something else while it's loading cause it freezes the browser, how is that multitasking?

What happened to that gamecenter they showed during the iPhone OS 4 demo earlier this year?

So moderately impressed for now, still need to see how CPU/RAM/GPU, Gyroscope, Camera work for the final impression.

But Apples constant repeats that "it changes everything again" and that it's a revolution all over again kinda pissed me off... we get it, it's a phone, you've updated it.........
 
Man, I was kind of hoping for more.

The way I see it, the only thing revolutionary is the screen.
The HD video recording, video conferencing, multitasking... it's all being done already on other phones.

I was expecting a bit more from Apple.
This is the first time I felt a product released by them was playing catch-up rather than revolutionizing an industry...
 
No mention of the "new" AT&T ripoff data plans. Jobs wan'ts us to see these great data intensive iAds, and paying AT&T major $$ to use the network. iPhone 4 does look nice, but Evo and Droid Incredible have similar features. The App marketplace on Android is not as good, but time will level the playing field there. Nothing about all the people that bought the iPad 3g for its "unlimited" plan, which was taken away after 1 month. I'm seriously thinking about the Sprint Evo, and taking the early termination fee from AT&T.
 
qbricc said:
This keynote is yet another example of the switch from Apple as a computer company that makes mobile phones to a mobile phone company that makes computers.

It may not sound like much of a difference but it is the beginning of the end for the iMac and Mac-pro.

I don't think that Apple is spending a lot of time worrying about bringing out things like new displays.
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Apple is not a display company. They also make displays, not the best displays but quite decent ones. Even if they had an entire display line up ready it'd be stupid to spend keynote minutes for display announcement. I'm actually surprised people expected anything other than iPhone related stuff from the keynote. We have the rest of the WWDC for other stuff. But keynote is ALWAYS reserved for the most important topics. And even though I'll buy a new Mac Pro when they announce, and am expecting the announcement eagerly, I didn't expect it to be during the keynote.
 
I absolutely love everything about it.

I just have 2 complaints
1. Why did they stay with the ugly blue colour & pinstripes in iOS 4? I thought they were over that with the iPad..
2. The ugly thing above the speaker grill on the white iPhone 4
 
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