Apple Announces New Apple TV 4K with A12 Bionic Chip and Upgraded Siri Remote

[Jon20001]

If i can buy that remote and use it with my existing 4k ATV, I'm in. Have doubts though...

You can. $59.

 

[haragog]

No touch and a “click wheel”? No wireless charging/magsafe mini? More but mostly duplicate buttons? Hard pass on the remote... Gotta load up the stock with the old one...!

 

[Russell L]

Now I can FINALLY replace my 3rd-gen Apple TV!!!

 

[klasma]

no hdmi 2.1 so no 120hz

It says HDMI 2.1 in the specs but with a footnote “Support for up to 4K 60-fps HDR video output”, so yes no 120 Hz apparently.

 

[johnscully]

Is the tv color calibration feature also available for older Apple TV 4K?

 

[hawkman199]

Any word on how many blue tooth connections? The present 4K only has three, one of which is used by the remote. This restricts my cycling smart trainer and Zwift to a HR monitor and Cadence/Power.

 

[darcyf]

You should be able to trade in your old Siri remote for a steep discount on the new one.

 

[CrzyP]

Website has been updated with specs. It has HDMI 2.1 and support for Thread. Two things I’m interested in.

 

[topmounter]

pleasantly surprised by the remote, clean aesthetic looks classy and can finally feel up from down..

not sure how useful the FaceID sensors scanning your tv will result in better calibration vs. just being placebo ware

A10x to A12 feels sorta... like a meh aspect. Though not sure how much it needs A13/14

never bought an atv4k, been using atv4 1080 since 2015 or whatever and smartTV apps

Agree. Sign me up for the new remote, too bad they aren't doing trade-ins for the current Siri Remote 😥 And if your TV (Apple TV or not) looks like the 'before' image as compared to the 'after' image in the color balance feature slide, then you have bigger problems that can typically be more easily and inexpensively addressed than buying a new Apple TV 4K and/or iPhone.

 

[Rigby]

Does anyone know what they meant by “high frame rate HDR” that the new Apple TV is capable of? Versus the current Apple TV?

60 Hz HDR. For the moment it's mostly useful for videos shot on newer iPhones, which can be displayed on the new ATV using the updated 60 Hz Airplay.

 

[arkmannj]

Does 4th gen AppleTV 4k support “Thread”? or is that new? (maybe requiring A12)

 

[CrzyP]

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It’s HDMI 2.1, but looks like Apple capped video output at 4K 60fps, which seems a bit odd. For movies sure, because there’s hardly any 120fps content, but for gaming, I’d assume Arcade games would want to take advantage of that. Hmm. So sounds like a future tvOS update could theoretically ‘unlock’ 4K 120fps when the time arrives, since it is in fact HDMI 2.1.

Nice remote! May go out and buy just that. Love that it was a

Maybe it 120 will be a thing after the next iPhone release. Apple is going to make a big deal about 120 Hz gaming and Apple TV can’t steal it’s thunder.

 

[DaveN]

For me, the auto color calibration on the Apple TV was the highlight of the presentation. I didn't expect it and it should be an incredible feature.... uh oh... incredible... I'm sounding like Tim Apple. /s

 

[upandown]

Yaaaas. Finally!

 

[QuietGamer]

I am in for the new model and 2 remotes please.

 

[kendo88]

Does anyone know what they meant by “high frame rate HDR” that the new Apple TV is capable of? Versus the current Apple TV?

Yes, new model supports 4K HDR at up to 60fps/hz for third party apps. Old one cannot do that

 

[wagsrules]

I hope they add TrueHD / DTS-HD MA support. I use an Nvidia Shield Pro for my plex server so I can take advantage of Atmos.

 

[Rigby]

It’s HDMI 2.1, but looks like Apple capped video output at 4K 60fps, which seems a bit odd. For movies sure, because there’s hardly any 120fps content, but for gaming, I’d assume Arcade games would want to take advantage of that. Hmm. So sounds like a future tvOS update could theoretically ‘unlock’ 4K 120fps when the time arrives, since it is in fact HDMI 2.1.

HDMI 2.1 doesn't necessarily mean that the hardware supports the highest possible 2.1 specs.

 

[anthorumor]

Does the remote really not have ultra wide band... all that talk about find my. My remote is the thing I lose most often.

just buy an airtag for that

 

[m11rphy]

no hdmi 2.1 so no 120hz

Apple website says it does have HDMI 2.1

 

[Apple_Robert]

You should be able to trade in your old Siri remote for a steep discount on the new one.

That is a great idea.

 

[bgalakazam]

The current PCM output (with Atmos metadata where applicable) *is* a lossless conversion even without bitstreaming.

How does LPCM retain the Atmos metadata in a 5.1.4 setup? The TrueHD track will be either 5 or 7 channel and the Atmos is not really separate. Unless I am missing something.

 

[TechRemarker]

I'm confused about the High Frame Rate. My current Apple TV I have set to 60hz and Dolby Vision. My new Sony supports Dolby Vision as well but up to 120hz. Been using the TV's native apps and native AppleTV app to get that in the meantime but have been looking forward to switching back to AppleTV box once the new one comes out which most all presumed would have 120hz. Saw it mention high refresh rate and since it already has 60hz, I assumed they meant as expected 120hz, but don't see it anywhere on the specs. What am I missing?

 

[iSunrise]

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It’s HDMI 2.1, but looks like Apple capped video output at 4K 60fps, which seems a bit odd. For movies sure, because there’s hardly any 120fps content, but for gaming, I’d assume Arcade games would want to take advantage of that. Hmm. So sounds like a future tvOS update could theoretically ‘unlock’ 4K 120fps when the time arrives, since it is in fact HDMI 2.1.

Nice remote! May go out and buy just that. Love that it was a

There’s a chance that it still could support higher framerates, but A12 may limit it. HDMI 2.1 does it, so the supported codecs up to 60fps does not mean that they cannot do higher fps.

I had all ATVs until today, and ATV 3rd Gen supported way higher fps than they advertised, there just was almost no content for it to test, so you needed a video player app that directly made it possible to use the ATVs native decoder, with e.x. higher fps samples within an MP4 container.

Of course, they could also just artificially cap tvOS for this new ATV to 60Hz so they have room for another gen with 120Hz support.

 

[oryan_dunn]

A remote that removes touch in favor of a “click wheel” is like going from the iPhone to the original iPod...

It still has touch, and I'd bet the "click wheel" doesn't actually move, just uses the touch sensor to emulate that.