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So... pretty much as expected. A very fine phone for lots of people. A huge disappointment for many fans of the original SE models (which I only mention because Apple are inviting the comparison themselves by naming it the same).
 
Intel has not released any updated CPUs as of yet.

Intel is slow, corona or not, they always delay. Also, what happened to the days of Apple getting early access to chips and reliable yearly updates? Oh do I miss Macworld in Jan, basically a given you would get hardware updates.
 
there is almost nothing to not like about this new iPhone SE. it think apple really delivered here for those who do not need or want the latest and greatest cameras and screens but prefer to use / need access to iOS and appreciate the fast CPU, additional RAM and faster LTE and Wi-Fi speeds compared to the 8 and before. Only reason i can't order this yet is because apple stores are not open so I can't get a glass screen protector fitted ! sucks :(
 
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As does the red phone with black bezels.

it does. but white iPhones haven't had black glass and white back since 3g/3gs days. The bezel is so small on iPhone XR/11 compared to 6/7/8 only in screen off mode could you take note of this contrast. So it feels like a first go round of this combo in a while

(red) has already had its fun with this on iPhone 8, the switch up from white front/red back on 7.
 
Geeze-,nothing like muddling the waters. This new iPhone is the iPhone 9 in every way. It has nothing to do with the "SE" name it hijacked.
Gotta wonder what's going on in the minds of the chaps in the marketing dept.

The owner of original iPhone SE is more interested in the 4” iPhone SE 2. In 2020, Phil Schiller is as dumb as he looks.
 
So basically a 3 year old phone (iPhone 8) with an up to date processor.

Not terrible...but the target audience could also just buy a refurbished 8 for around $250.
Where could you find a refurbished iPhone 8 for $250? (I mean sure, eBay prices will drop now, because the new phone is improved, and it is not two year old used).
 
US prices are without tax

64 GB $399 £419

64 GB price without 20% VAT: 419*0.8 = £319.20
Current exchange rate 319.20 GBP = 399.79 USD ... gouged for 79c! I can live with that :)
That's not how VAT math works. In order to get 419 with 20% VAT you must have a non VAT price of 349, not 319.20.
 
shame they didn't go for all-white like the iPhone 8 though, the black front with white back looks a bit odd IMO. although i see they probably did it for that iconic 3GS look perhaps.
 
As someone who played with a 4" iPhone SE recently and noticed how incredibly claustrophobic the display is and how hard it is to use most apps with so little information on the screen... How are so many people upset at the lack of a 4" screen?

Most apps aren't even built for even a 4.7" screen anymore!
I don't think it's the 4" screen that people like, but the smaller chassis that is easier to hold. If they were able to increase the size of the screen in something close to the same body size (significantly smaller than the new SE) that would be awesome! But that wouldn't be an SE, that would be part of a new flagship line, I assume.

I held out hope for some time that an updated SE would come out at the same size body, but I get what you're saying and I too have felt the claustrophobia recently. Several apps I use clearly expect me to be on a 4.7" screen or better. So I've gradually warmed to the thought of having the larger phone. I mostly use my phone two-handed anyway.

What I think I will miss as much from the smaller chassis? The sleep switch being on the top of the phone. Darn you, muscle memory! *shakes fist at sky*
 
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