None of them are out of the 1 year standard warranty at this point. They all qualify for free repairs right now.
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Apple Apologizes Over 'Small Number' of Users Who Continue to Have Issues With Third-Generation MacBook Keyboards
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“Stop prioritizing thinness over usability”
Preach it.
Preach it.
Apple insider looked into the keyboard issue, granted it’s for the MacBook Pro but given that the keyboard is used on all machines now it’s probably the same for all machines.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...em-to-improve-reliability-and-thats-not-great
It most likely helps with the dust but it also traps heat.
Many people are thinking that the issue now with the 2018 keyboards is failure due to heat (either the membrane warping or the butterfly mechanism failing).
Apple has neither confirmed or denied that heat is an issue.
I had an issue with my 1st gen and what a disaster that repair was. From a keyboard swap to pretty much replacing my whole laptop. why, i don't know. Case logic board display. It was working fine. NO cosmetic damage etc. I think something happened to it during the repair.
I'd suggest the same but I felt like I'd get flamed for suggesting that
But yes definitely bring back MagSafe.
I've also read about this. A lot of the posts where people complain about the keyboard having problems, I find that they're not using the TB model. The TB model has an extra fan. Both my wife and I have had 0 problems on our 2017 TB models and we've done some pretty intensive CPU / heat processes before as well. I do wonder how much this affects the failure.
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I'd suggest the same but I felt like I'd get flamed for suggesting that
But yes definitely bring back MagSafe.
As a 2017 MBP owner, BRING BACK MAGSAFE. That's a big thing I miss from my 2015 MBA.
So you are risking your health and not eating or taking frequent breaks. Yep priorities need to be addressed. Spend 20 hours in front of a computer then later sleep in a hospital bed, due to not looking after ones health. Shame what some people do to themselves.
Agreed. Programmers such as myself do this all the time. It is very common. But it is sadly a requirement more times than not because programming projects are often times very badly managed in my experience. But it is a living. My wife gets to go to PhD school and we can afford to live in California and play with a few Apple products.
Well You have to look for them, guess You are not walking around even trying.
But hey, nice comment
Never cleaned the keyboard of my 2011 MBP either. It has been to construction sites, dirty offices and camping trips.... never had a problem. Contrary to my 2016 that sits in the office that gets cleaned every day and that is used with usb keyboard 90% of the time
I don't even like very short travel keys when they work let alone when they are failure prone.
Even Gruber calls it an epic fail:
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/03/27/strn-kyboard
Even Gruber calls it an epic fail:
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/03/27/strn-kyboard
My first reaction to these keyboard issues was to consider it probably overblown (for example I owned one those iPhone 4 that supposedly you couldn't make a call with and I loved it).
Then I tried one of those keyboards. They suck. Hard. There isn't another way of putting it. Almost any cheap Windows laptop has a nicer to type on keyboard.
And I am talking about fully functioning keyboards.
Then I tried one of those keyboards. They suck. Hard. There isn't another way of putting it. Almost any cheap Windows laptop has a nicer to type on keyboard.
And I am talking about fully functioning keyboards.
That’s the thing with love, it makes You blind ... until ... it’s over, then comes the hard fall aka sticky keys
Exactly. Loving every bit of mine. I just pulled out the AppleCare, on this purchase, to be safe.
When I bought a cover off of amazon, it came with a keyboard cover/sleeve. See if that helps some with debris. Been following the threads in the MacBook Air section closely. Rock-ON!
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At least they're Apple products. The 4? year keyboard warranty now on the 2017s and our AppleCare+. I'll definitely be watching this - hence me commenting on threads like this. The failure rate is low, but like smarter posters than me have posted here - there does seem to be a keyboard problem.
Er, get a better job then? There's no reason that you should be working 20 hours a day, ever.
Amen to that. Who cares if it is .1 MM thinner if its functionality is compromised?
Meanwhile, my 2012 old school MBP keeps chugging along, best keyboard ever and still my go to machine.
I have a 2017 MBP and it runs considerably cooler than the 2018 model (one of the reasons I bought a 2017 instead of a 2018).
The 2016 and 2017 MBP do not have the membrane so there can be no membrane problems due to heat. It does however allow dust to get in which I believe is the primary cause of failures in 2016 / 2017 keyboards.
All 2018 MBP have the membrane and run hot. The membrane should keep the dust out unless it's losing its seal due to heat.
In any case, it looks like the 2018 keyboard also has problems.
Agreed. I sold my MacBook Pro with second generation buttery keyboard and went and bought a “like new” 2015 MacBook Pro. All for the keyboard. I can live without some ports. But I actually need the keyboard. My company will buy me a new laptop whenever I need one. Still rolling with the 2015.
I'm on my 3rd topcase/keyboard on my 2016 MBP and every single one has had issues with sticky keys. These things are completely unreliable.
If the next MBP refresh keeps these stupid butterfly keyboards you're going to see whatever the internet Apple pundit equivalent is of riots.