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They are the largest company in the world. Theh could do a lot more to create jobs and revenue for the state of CA and the country.

The attitude you take is the real problem in the first place. How can we even compete with China?.
So because they're the largest company in the world, they're suddenly supposed to be manufacturing experts?

The reason iPhones aren't made in America is simple: Americans sucks at manufacturing. They have for years.
 
Your going to be disappointed - you'll see a lot of backtracking and u-turns on trump. More than average for a leader.

I've heard a lot of BS over the past year and a half about what Trump is not able to do.
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As far as I know Apple's hiring practices are inclusive. Who are they shutting out?


The popularity of Calexit suggests exactly what Apple should do. Leave the rest of the racism and bigotry in USA behind for their own California country.

Do you think for one moment California will exit? It's mostly a reaction to the election result. I'm sure things will settle down.

I see a lot of parallels in the reaction - usa election results vs brexit.
 
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What exactly is Apple scared about? I'm pretty sure they hired all their foreign employees legally. Putting women on higher position something that is not new on the elect president. Same sex marriage is no longer a problem and he lives California that's not gonna change. The only reason I think Cook is worried about, when Apple starts paying higher tax unless he starts bringing manufacturing back in the US. Well they still have to take care the problem first with EU and deal with the US later.

Apple gave money to both parties. Tim's letter was to Apple's employees. This campaign has been a very ugly one. I haven't seen such ugliness in politics since I emigrated here. He must recognize that this campaign has created a divide amongst his employees and is trying to mend that.
 
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As an outsider (not a US citizen or resident) I find it either comical or worrying that he feels like there is a need to do that.

There was an election and a candidate has been selected. Some people are happy about it, other aren't (welcome to democracy, the first group needs to know it doesn't mean everyone things like them, and the second one needs to accept their ideology is not the winning one this time).

If people on both sides can't ignore politics in the workplace there is a serious lack of maturity and professional skills on their part. And if they are already ignoring it, what does a CEO need to send this kind of message to his employees?

Not that strange. When the lunatics over in Blighty voted for Brexit, our CEO sent a similar message the following day because the lines of division were real and emotion was a tinderbox.

The overwhelming irony is we've all been f-d by the establishment, just a different brand of it.
 
For everyone who has mentioned that Apple's workplace practices are unfair or abusive, are you willing to pay $2000 for that next iPhone (don't think it would be that much but whatever)?

In case you were referring to me, note that I never said anything about Apple having unfair or abusive workplace practices. But I did allude to the fact that most Americans would be unwilling to work under the sort of conditions and for the sort of pay that workers tolerate in China.

For the Chinese, it's a win-win, because most of those workers grew up in rural areas with very low standards of living. For them, those jobs are a step up. Just as Mexican migrant workers happily accept grueling agricultural jobs in the US that pay a pittance by American standards. But in both cases, employers would have a very difficult time finding American workers willing to do that sort of work for that sort of money.
 
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He's just asking for continued tolerance at the work floor. Not a weird plea after recent events in the US. My God, some people see something wrong in everything. How exhausting your lives must be.
Finally someone with a brain.
 
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The Mac Pro is an exception for Apple. Very low volumes, very high price, and a very slow pace of continuing development, to the point where many suspect Apple is about to abandon the product altogether.
I don't have a Mac Pro. I have a 27'' iMac. Link
With Apples current strong focus on handhelds and poor reveal of Macbooks, one could question if they are about to abandon the computer market all together.
 
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Few general observations after reading a year of forum political comments around the web. Many Trump supporters are terrible at grammar and spelling.many trump supporters have so much impotent rage and they will be surprised to learn it gets them nothing in the end. Pretty clear that buyers remorse will be interesting to watch during his term. Losing the popular vote isn't a landslide or mandate. Alexander Hamilton was right.
 
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tim crook == wuss

trumpo should give apple a hard time.
He's not going to. His actual plan is favorable for Apple. He's going to lower the tax to repatriate money, so Apple will have the best opportunity to move their money from Ireland should they choose.

Trump is a businessman who worships the dollar. He and Cook could have lunch and suddenly all that animosity regarding overseas manufacturing will go away.
 
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This is an example of the kind of empty neoliberal rhetoric that led to Trump getting elected.

A company that touts diversity, yet from an economic standpoint, shuts so many people out.

Dr. King was about racial AND economic justice, a Civil Rights Movement AND a Poor People's Campaign, but Tim Cook and his mealy-mouthed subordinates wouldn't understand that.

Right, surely they were all born with silver spoons in their mouths... Apple isn't shutting people out by making premium products, that's their place in the industry.
 
I don't have a Mac Pro. I have a 27'' iMac. Link


"Apple may be taking some of the burden of assembling the new iMac off Chinese supply partners by performing parts of assembly in the U.S."

I genuinely believe that Apple would love to manufacture their products in the US if it were economically and technically feasible to do so. This article cites one example of their attempts to make progress in that direction.

But it's important to remember that we're talking about "assembly" here. There's not a lot of money for workers in the final assembly of products. The most capital-intensive elements of product manufacture lie in the electronic components (most of which are made in Korea and Japan) and in metallurgy and precision machining (which is largely automated.)

With Apples current strong focus on handhelds and poor reveal of Macbooks, one could question if they are about to abandon the computer market all together.

I think that's inevitable. The only real question is a matter of timing.

As Steve Jobs once explained during an interview, America used to be an agrarian society and most automobiles sold were trucks. As people moved from farms into cities and suburbs, trucks were increasingly replaced by cars which provided better comfort, features, and fuel efficiency. Today we still have trucks, but they now make up a small percentage of the automobile market.

What we think of today as a PC is the equivalent of a truck. We will always have a need for them, but they will increasingly be limited to a small subsegment of the market.

 
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Few general observations after reading a year of forum political comments around the web. Many Trump supporters are terrible at grammar and spelling.many trump supporters have so much impotent rage and they will be surprised to learn it gets them nothing in the end. Pretty clear that buyers remorse will be interesting to watch during his term. Losing the popular vote isn't a landslide or mandate. Alexander Hamilton was right.

We couldn't survive 4 more years of Obama's dictator socialist policies that were destroying this country

Thank GOD voters made their voice heard and the lamestream media was proven so so so wrong with all their BS polls
 
"Apple may be taking some of the burden of assembling the new iMac off Chinese supply partners by performing parts of assembly in the U.S."

I genuinely believe that Apple would love to manufacture their products in the US if it were economically and technically feasible to do so. This article cites one example of their attempts to make progress in that direction.

But it's important to remember that we're talking about "assembly" here. There's not a lot of money for workers in the final assembly of products. The most capital-intensive elements of product manufacture lie in the electronic components (most of which are made in Korea and Japan) and in metallurgy and precision machining (which is largely automated.)

I agree. But it's one small step in the direction that benefits the US worker.
 
I grew up in Southern California, and I worked in the Silicon Valley. In theory, that would make me a liberal, but I also served in the military, so I believe it helped to balance my perspective. As I've grown older, I inherited my father's interest in world events and politics. I have friends that are 'died-in-the-wool' conservatives and bleeding-heart liberals. I love them both as friends, but I've noticed that liberals are typically hypocrites. They wave the flag for diversity but when others disagree with their particular view; they throw a hissy fit. So much for their intellectual and caring ideology.
 
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Tim Cook is truly an amazing man...Those are beautiful words. We are a divided nation but rather than focus on what divides us, lets focus on what unites us. I am sure there are some Trump supporters, Hillary supporters, Johnson supporters, and people that wrote in Homer Simpson on this forum but we are all here because we enjoy discussing Apple related topics.
 
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Americans kill me. Always believing the myth that poor people are the problem. Yet they shovel billions of free money to corporations with little or nothing to show for it. And to top it off, believe those corps need lower (even more free money) because life for them is so hard.
Yes, we shovel billion to corporations with little to show for it. However, for practical purposes we also have the highest corporate income taxes in the world. Addressing both ends of the issue can only help as it reduces economic distortions which always decrease productivity.
 
I grew up in Southern California, and I worked in the Silicon Valley. In theory, that would make me a liberal, but I also served in the military, so that balanced my perspective. As I've grown older, I inherited my father's interest in world events and politics. I have friends that are 'died-in-the-wool' conservatives and bleeding-heart liberals. I love them both as friends, but I've noticed that liberals are typically hypocrites. They way the flag for diversity when others disagree with their particular view; they throw a hissy fit. So much for the intellectual and caring ideology.
Good post
As someone with a true moderate political leaning, lean right for fiscal issues, and left for social issues, I have noticed the same.
 
As an outsider (not a US citizen or resident) I find it either comical or worrying that he feels like there is a need to do that.

There was an election and a candidate has been selected. Some people are happy about it, other aren't (welcome to democracy, the first group needs to know it doesn't mean everyone things like them, and the second one needs to accept their ideology is not the winning one this time).

If people on both sides can't ignore politics in the workplace there is a serious lack of maturity and professional skills on their part. And if they are already ignoring it, what does a CEO need to send this kind of message to his employees?

As an outsider, you have little idea what the climate is like right now among the American public. We have just gone through one of the most ridiculous, embarrassing, and exhausting election cycles in history. It was anything but normal.
 
This is an example of the kind of empty neoliberal rhetoric that led to Trump getting elected.

A company that touts diversity, yet from an economic standpoint, shuts so many people out.

Dr. King was about racial AND economic justice, a Civil Rights Movement AND a Poor People's Campaign, but Tim Cook and his mealy-mouthed subordinates wouldn't understand that.

While I agree with your sentiment, I would offer one counter point.

Yes, Apple products and prices exclude a majority of the world's population, but pushing technology forward costs money. A lot of money.

However, that tech eventually makes its way into products that many more people can afford. An example would be how much cheaper SSDs have become because (mainly) Apple is pushing that as a sole option in laptops. Even though its a bit of a stretch now, one could argue that this is allowing for computers such as the Raspberry Pi to become more capable at it's affordable price point and form factor.

I guess my main point is that the people who can afford it are buying Apple products and subsidizing the R&D for those who can't.
 
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