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Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'You Will See Us Do More in the Pro Area'
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I think the point with what Tim Cook has said is that they have no plans to make a touchscreen Mac will they make a hybrid iPad with a full desktop OS, it's something they have said for a while now, yet some people are still asking why they haven't done it, that question has been answered many times.
The iPad Pro is not meant to replace everyones desktop, the average PC user is however different, the average user watches content, works on spreadsheets, writes notes, letters and any other document, checks email and uses web browsing, these are all things that can be done on the iPad along with being able to write and draw with the Apple Pencil.
However those people who do serious video editing or want more power will buy a Mac.
For example i own an iPad Pro it's a very capable device which i use for drawing, some word-processing, content consumption and multitasking. But then i've also got a Mac that is used to video edit when i need too, play the occasional game edit photos and so on, the iPad compliments the Mac really well that it would be shame just to combine the two and i think Apple know this.
I will reserve judgement on what Tim has said about desktops, we are only 3 months into the year with a probable Apple event later this month (March). I would rather they work on things properly and make us wait than rush things out like some people seem to want and then have problems.
The iPad Pro is not meant to replace everyones desktop, the average PC user is however different, the average user watches content, works on spreadsheets, writes notes, letters and any other document, checks email and uses web browsing, these are all things that can be done on the iPad along with being able to write and draw with the Apple Pencil.
However those people who do serious video editing or want more power will buy a Mac.
For example i own an iPad Pro it's a very capable device which i use for drawing, some word-processing, content consumption and multitasking. But then i've also got a Mac that is used to video edit when i need too, play the occasional game edit photos and so on, the iPad compliments the Mac really well that it would be shame just to combine the two and i think Apple know this.
I will reserve judgement on what Tim has said about desktops, we are only 3 months into the year with a probable Apple event later this month (March). I would rather they work on things properly and make us wait than rush things out like some people seem to want and then have problems.
Actions speak louder than words. Over 1,100 days, no new Mac Pro. Over 800 days, no new Mac mini. Over 500 days, no new iMac. That, more than anything, tells us of your priorities.
Apple should go back and bring out a Mac Pro that can be upgraded by the user. I don't need a fancy flat desktop nor a trash can. It should just be fast and upgradeble, no more no less.
"We will introduce pro prices across the board ..." 
Taking more than three years to update the mac pro could hardly be described as rushing things out, don't you think?
Regarding Tim's statement, saying they are working on great things for creative pros might be o.k. two years ago. As of today, I find it more infuriating that reassuring or anything. Shut up and deliver already.
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how is an imac painfully slow for that? 3D applications thrive on fast single core clock speeds.. your sig says you're running at 2.26GHz.. an imac is in the 4GHz range. the imac will be noticeably faster than that 4,1 youre using.. it will also benchmark faster than a 6,1 though it may not be as noticeable in real world use.. they'll probably 'feel' the same in actual usage.
idk, i don't get your comment 'incredibly painful'.. it's definitely faster than what youre using and further, there's not much out there that you can get to go any faster than an i7 imac.
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Like maybe lower the price?
I was looking for a new iPad, as my iPad 4 was becoming unusable due to the lags from the latest OS. So I went shopping. I wanted a Pro. I found out I couldn't afford a Pro. The 'it will do more' mantra was playing in my head, and I really wanted to get one, but nope. I have an Air 2. I don't need the Pro that needs a Pencil. I don't need to pay more because it 'does more'... Not knowing anything other than that, I can see where Apple has the wonderful opportunity to piss off their customers and end up selling a lot less of their iPads. Nice move...
I was looking for a new iPad, as my iPad 4 was becoming unusable due to the lags from the latest OS. So I went shopping. I wanted a Pro. I found out I couldn't afford a Pro. The 'it will do more' mantra was playing in my head, and I really wanted to get one, but nope. I have an Air 2. I don't need the Pro that needs a Pencil. I don't need to pay more because it 'does more'... Not knowing anything other than that, I can see where Apple has the wonderful opportunity to piss off their customers and end up selling a lot less of their iPads. Nice move...
It depends what they are working on, just a spec update then yea i would agree, but with Apple you never know. It's like the update for the iMac's they are expected sometime this year and haven't been updated in a while, but i'm willing to wait and see what they have in store. Doesn't mean they aren't working on anything, maybe new features? maybe completely new hardware for the Mac that's taking longer than expected, we just don't know.
I'll believe it when I see it, Cook is all talk and the delivery is very lacking thus far.
Maybe you should go back to the Apple insider sight. They have their lips puckered right on the center of Apple's a$$.
Except, I really think that they should abandon the cylinder design for the Mac Pro. Apple has really underestimated Pros' need for industry standard expandibility.
If Apple was to bring back the cheese grater design with updated speeds and feeds, they would sell so many, and I would be standing in line on day one, cash in hand.
Welcome back in the world.
Imagine where General Motors would be after selling 4/5 year old models for a new price.
...return head in sand again, mr. Oistrich
You missed an important part of the OP: "sorry but it is incredibly painful on an iMac - assuming of course, that you don't burn it out when rendering."
Of course, it's not just rendering. I am doing some numerics (physics research) and our tower Mac Pro can run its 12 cores at 100% for whatever periods of time while keeping cool and quiet. An iMac nor the trash can Mac Pro can do that.
And complaing about it is going to do what exactly? I'm not being harsh here but if people don't like what's on offer they are more than welcome to look else where, but I wouldn't be surprised to see desktops updated at some point this year.
This. If I have to go with Windows for my main computer, I’m dropping the whole ecosystem and not looking back. After 39 years, it’ll be Adiós, Goodbye, Adieu, さよなら, 不再见 with a door slam.
Memo to Tim: everything is already thin enough.
You might have a point, however consider this: In case I have to stop using Mac OS for one of my computers, then I will do that for everything else I am using. I want to use one platform. Not sure how this applies to other people, but if it does, then by dropping a Mac Pro Apple can easily loose customers in higher-revenue areas too.
At this point, a CPU architecture change would only force more people away from the Mac. Think about all of the software that wouldn't work. The only solution would be a compatibility layer, which will eventually be dropped, and you can only hope developers will have switched to compiling for ARM Macs by then. Though, they handled the switch from PowerPC to Intel rather well. I guess they could do it again. But still, switching from one architechture to another will make all of your current Mac apps useless, unless either the developer/company is willing to give you an ARM version for free since you already paid for it, or if you're willing to rebuy all of your apps. Alright, it might not break the Mac, but I don't think it's the time for a CPU architecture change. I think they're fine right where they are with Intel. APFS is nice, but I don't know if Linux and Windows will be able to read APFS-formatted drives.
It would really be great if Apple made a midsize upgradable tower with an i7. Then we could have pricing closer to that of the iMac while having expandability closer to that of the classic Mac Pro. The strength of the Mac Pro was that when it started to get a little long in the tooth, you could stretch out its usefulness by upgrading the CPU or the GPU or by adding a PCIe card to add a new type of port (i.e. USB 3). It was also nice for gaming because it could take a full-size desktop GPU.
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