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He appears periodically to tell us how great pro things are planned. But we have just got one disappointment after another. Heck they have not even bothered to update the design of iPhone for 3 years. The rumors are that 7S of next year will retain same form factor.

But we have to blame ourselves for buying Apple products year after year.
I have switched to Hackintosh. It's miles better than any crap Apple has out there. Even Windows works just fine with added telemetry.

You know what makes an iPhone better? The design. The insides don't matter as long as the design changes, right?
 
With Tim, things are always 'in the pipeline'. When so much is in the pipeline, and nothing is coming out, you've got to wonder if the pipeline is blocked.

Here is tims pipeline:

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A quick reality check. Apple actually consider the MacBook Pro with the touch bar gimmick across the keyboard to be a professional machine. That's right, the one with only 16GB of RAM in it.

Tim probably doesn't realise that many of us consider the only pro machines those with server grade chips in them, decent cooling and oodles of RAM so that we can actually run several things at the same time and get stuff done.

I'll only believe him when the Mac Pro is updated. Anything else is just white noise.
 
Say what you want about the hardware, it is the software, specifically the dropping of Aperture, that really burns me. Aperture since v.1 to the last have all my photos and their versions in it. 100's of thousands. Now where to put them? Love the Mac. Hate Windows. Bring back Aperture. Photos is a shoebox for snapshots by grandmothers and teenagers. No real problems with my two Tubes and TB2. Would just like to know the platform has a future. But for the love of God, bring back Aperture, improved. Use some of those billions. You could do it for less than a fraction of a percent of cash on hand. How can a pro take Apple seriously when they can't even write good pro photo software?

P.S. Not a Newbie, my account somehow was cancelled. Been here since the beginning.
 
The latest Mac Pro was released in June of 2013.

The iPhone 5c and IPhone 5s were released in September of 2013.

There have been 7 models of iPhones released since the 5c and 5s.

Imagine if the latest iPhone available were still the 5c and 5s. How many people would still be buying new iPhones today?

People would look at the iPhone as a relic of the past. Nobody would still be willing to pay their original retail price of $549 to $849 today. They'd dump Apple like the obsolete technology it would be.

Now think about the Mac Pro. Obviously, there's no reason to pay top dollar for a computer that hasn't been updated since June of 2013. And, it should be looked at as the relic of the past that it is. It is as obsolete as the iPhone 5c and 5s is in today's market.

And people are right for having lost faith in Apple's commitment to the Pro market.
 
What a goddam whine-fest here.
You should spend time in the idevice forums, lots of happy people discussing emoji advancements, adults here are discussing the state of what used to be called "pro"

Unless you have an opinion why people here should be happy about the state of actual "pro" apps and hardware and not up priced iPad with "pro" in it .
 
Too late and also Pro in the sense of apple is just a commercial tag to sell products. I already moved my professional business over to pc and don't regret it for a second. I will still buy phones and consumer toys from apple though, which is what they make these days.
 
You know what makes an iPhone better? The design. The insides don't matter as long as the design changes, right?

Battery for me. And yes that involves a design change.
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Of course. Would you be using an iPhone 7 internals with Nokia 3310 body?

My dream phone :p indestructible, week battery life and snake!!
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Here you can see the major apple product pipelines . The one in the middle is the "pro" one, the others which you cannot see clearly down, may hold something at the end...

As you can see, not clean, there is some old debris on the sides...

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But apple abandoned Pro years over 2 years ago. He is twisting and redefining what pro means. Trust me apple has abandoned the pro user a long time ago in favour of profits. Now they are trying to tell users that Pro means buying a device that has maximium profits and sales for them. Remember this is coming from a man pushing an iPad as a replacement for a Mac....imagine what pro means in his head.

He is not pushing iPad as a Mac replacement. If he was, why would he push the Retina MacBook?!
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Hyperbole is the best tool some people have.

I know. His response was "other than shareholders and people who don't buy anything without an Apple logo on it". I didn't bother replying...
 
Oh please, Tim dropped the ball and now hes facing the overdue backlash from Apples most loyal and true consumers.

Yes, and they are certainly making their point heard. By ranting about it in a forum which he likely doesn't frequent. While making the atmosphere so much worse for everyone else.
 
Doing more than absolutely nothing is not difficult. They can release a new point update to Final Cut and will have already have done more for the professional consumers than they've done in the recent past. Too little, too late, Tim. Your reiterating of apeasement phrases is not winning any leavers back.
 
Tim Cook is the second coming of John Scully. Each man has taken the house that Steve Jobs built and destroyed it because they do not understand the computer industry.

And Warren Buffet is now Apple's fifth largest shareholder. But I suppose I should take your word over the sage of Omaha.

I think it is the computer industry which does not understand Apple.
 
Why did you ever slow down in the "pro area", Tim?
Find out how much revenue and profits Apple makes in which area. And then "pro area" doesn't mean Mac Pro. I use a Mac professionally and a 15" MacBook Pro is all I could wish for; 27" retina iMac perhaps but probably not, but no need whatsoever for a Mac Pro. It's a small minority even among Mac users who need these machines.
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"The Pro area is going to be very, very great. That I can promise you. Believe me."
Give me a Mac Mini that can drive my 4K TV smoothly and I'll throw my money to you, Tim.

A Mac Mini to drive a 4k TV is "Pro Area"? I'd say it's an entertainment device.
 
There is no way a mobile CPU can match the performance of a desktop CPU. iMac Pro (if ever released) will be underpowered machine.
I agree and it will be a sad day but I still think they'll do it. Remember this is a company that thinks an iPad can replace a desktop computer.
 
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"Expect us to do more and more where people will view it as a laptop replacement, but not a Mac replacement - the Mac does so much more,"

:D :rolleyes: :confused: :(
 
WHY ON EARTH A PRO DEVICE HAS TO BE SMALL TINY THIN?:confused:

its not a mobile device its a workstation and the main feature is HORSEPOWER! :mad:

FOR F***S SAKE make the mac pro GREAT again!

:apple: cheese grater 2.0 :apple:

make it BIG enough to cool it silently under heavy load 24/7
4-16-32 real cores @ 4Ghz, not some dual quadcore ryzen crap.
tons of memory from 32Gb to 512GB or more
choose between GTX/RX or firepro/quadro
PCIe expansion slots, plenty! thats a pro feature !
lots of IO of all kinds
overall upgradeability-servicability ! we cannot stay without our machine for 3 weeks or more to get a damn GPU replaced.

every pro would spend 10000 or more for something like this and the entry level could still be possible for 3000

there are MANY MANY MANY Customers ready to buy this Machine and jump back.

these would sell very good and actually show that you care for pro's TIM

i swear if Apple comes with a Imac pro and no serious pro workstation i'l gonna leave the ship completely

the biggest Problem is that the alternative is Windows
 
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I'm prepared to take this at face value for what it is. I'll wait and see what happens.

The main problem is 'Pro' has all but lost its definition. No one knows what it means any more (least of all Apple). I'm pretty sure my next Mac will be a Hackintosh, until Apple finally comes to their senses.
 
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