Apple changed sleep behaviour since 2015 MBP...

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  1. ignaciobarrena, Jun 1, 2017
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    I don't know If I'm being paranoic or what, but my 2015 MBP is still losing around 10-15% every night. I have Power Nap and Find my mac off and I've tried everything that I could trying to resolve this . I've been having this issue since I got the laptop last year with el Capitan. I talked to Apple Care and the fix for them was to do a clean install of the OS. And here I am, I did a fresh install of 10.12.4 but still loosing 10-15% every night.

    Using the terminal command line: pmset -g log I can see that my mac wakes up every few minutes because of some Wifi scanning, Adress Book sync (?¿), Interactive Push services ( what is this apple )...Searching on the web for people with the same issue, I found various posts and threads in the Apple forums addressing this weird behaviour in sleep mode. Until 2015 MBP, the computer should enter sleep mode, and after 3hours, the computer will wake up and then enter again on DEEP sleep mode.

    In this 2 threads : https://apple.stackexchange.com/que...-consumes-10-battery-overnight-with-the-lid-c
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7300625?start=120&tstart=0
    you can see how some people found out that some Plist files that manage sleep behaviour are different between 2014 and 2015 MBP. The Plist solution seems to not work with 10.12.5, and it break some things for me when I tried it.

    I had a 2012 macbook pro that would loose arround 1-3% every night, and of course will last 30 days in sleep mode, but I don't think my 2015 MBP will last 30 days...

    Why Apple ? I don't want my macbook to be a phone, I don't want to receive updates in sleep mode. If I close the lid, I want this beauty to sleep til I open it again.. I'm still waiting for a solution, but Apple seems to not being able to help me.

    PD: here you can see the full pmset logs https://www.mediafire.com/?gad67cd7mn133ar
     
  2. ApolloBoy macrumors 6502a

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    Funny, my rMB does the exact same thing. A few days ago it still had about 25% left on the battery when I went to bed, and then when I woke up the next morning, it was in suspended mode and had to be connected to the charger in order for it to wake up. And this is also with Power Nap and other features shut off.
     
  3. zen macrumors 68000

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    Exact same thing here - significant drop in % charge on waking after sleep, all those sleep-related functions disabled.
     
  4. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    This needs to be heard more, I'm sure lots of people are having this issues.
     
  5. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 604

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    Have you got automatic updates turned on for anything??
     
  6. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    In the Appstore ? Yes, but this shouldn't have to interfere with Sleep Mode.
     
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  8. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    yeah, back in october. This is not a BUG, this is how Apple want their new laptops to work, and it's a shame
     
  9. leman macrumors 604

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    Well, this is a but weird, because my laptop doesn't lose 10-15% battery overnight. So I'd say that its a bug?
     
  10. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    A bug that I even have after doing a totally fresh install of the OS ?
     
  11. leman macrumors 604

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    If thats an OS bug, why not? :) The core OS has tons of bugs in it.
     
  12. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 604

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    If its an OS issue then everyone would have it, my 2013 on the latest OS loses barely 2% overnight.

    If everyone had the issue the internet would be lit up with complaints about it, they aren't so you have an atypical although not unknown issue, that's just logical. If you just reinstalled OSX and kept everything on your computer then you'll have kept the issues keeping it awake when it should be sleeping.

    I'm sorry we can't psychically have a look around your system and try and sort out the problem for you but managing your own software is your issue why not try the steps here to identify it and change the relevant settings or even delete relevant apps to find out if you can stop the issue.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204760
     
  13. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    hey thanks for the answer, I started from scratch, didn't restore anything from Time Machine, I deleted the SSD and install the OS from an USB. Already tried those things suggested by Apple, I got Do not disturb ON and Bluetooth off
     
  14. blackcypher macrumors newbie

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    Curious, is there any evidence of Apple's Powernap feature possibly being involved in the power drain?
     
  15. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    It has to be something about enhanced notifications and Power Nap of course, maybe someone that knows about the OS could explain us the sleep logs I posted.
     
  16. Fishrrman macrumors G4

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    I power off my own MacBook Pro every night. Granted, it's only the 2015 model, but doing so guarantees that it doesn't lose much battery strength…! ;)
     
  17. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    I shouldn't have to do that
     
  18. Patcell macrumors 6502

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    I have a mid-2014 rMBP 15" on latest OS and it doesn't lose any charge overnight in sleep mode (maybe 1-2% occasionally). I have even left it for days in sleep mode and it doesn't lose anywhere near 10-15%; wakes right up when I open the lid too, everything right where I left it.

    Has to be something going on to cause that kind of loss... I'd be pissed!
     
  19. haydn! macrumors 6502a

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    That's not true. There is tonnes of device specific code within the OS. It could be problem relating to one of those - therefore only affecting certain machines/models.
     
  20. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    As I said before, some people found that they changed the sleep behaviour since 2015 Macbook Pros, and this is the issue, I don't want my Mac to be a phone
     
  21. RadioGaGa1984 Suspended

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    Heres a wild thought. I know its crazy but, plug it in.
     
  22. fokmik macrumors 68000

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    its not normal. i kind of lose 1% over night (late 2014 15" MBP and same with 12" Mb)
     
  23. HatMine macrumors member

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    I have a rMBP 2015 and I don't lose any charge at all when I put it in sleep mode. This is with the latest update available (10.12.5). I've owned it since launch and again, never noticed any drop in battery whilst in sleep mode.
     
  24. ignaciobarrena thread starter macrumors regular

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    Can you please introduce : pmset -g in terminal and post here what it shows ? Also, could you write pmset -g log in terminal after an overnight sleep ? Wanna see the output, thanks you very much!
     
  25. HatMine macrumors member

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    System-wide power settings:

    Currently in use:

    standbydelay 10800
    standby 1
    halfdim 1
    hibernatefile /var/vm/sleepimage
    powernap 0
    gpuswitch 2
    disksleep 0
    sleep 10
    autopoweroffdelay 14400
    hibernatemode 3
    autopoweroff 1
    ttyskeepawake 1
    displaysleep 10
    tcpkeepalive 1
    acwake 0
    lidwake 1

    This is what I got, feel free to check it out
     

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