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Yeah, but Android ships a billion units a month. :D

1bill? Who is buying all those units? 1/7 of world population each month sounds like too much. Unless the stat is related to all android devices... In that place even my toilet runs on android. So Apple sold 4mill phones in one day, how much android phones are sold in one month?
 
Actually, it is very useful since it is written in an entirely new processor architecture. That's why Apple's 1.4GHz dual core processors can outperform Samsung's 2.4GHz quad-core processors. I'm sure in 2015 once Samsung catches up with what Apple did in 2013 they'll trumpet how great the new architecture is, even with less than 4GB of RAM.

You're still missing the point that 64-bit processors only have a real benefit with devices with at least 4GB ram. Most manufacturers are smart enough to know this, which is why there has never been a real rush toward a 64-bit smartphone environment.

It's well known that Apple simply did this to add a bulletpoint for their devices. Having a 64-bit processor with 1GB of ram is next to useless.
 
There's a lot of crap flinging in here at Samsung and Android.

I must remind these iPhone users of something very important that it seems they're conveniently forgetting. iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are catch-up products.

Just about every feature iPhone 6 and iPhone Plus have, Samsung and other Android manufacturers have been producing for many years prior.

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I guess this is subjective.. would we compare the # of features offered in a phone equate to a better phone? or # of phones sold a better phone? or the profit generated by the sales as an indicator for a better phone? Which would Apple and Samsung want? :rolleyes:
 
Only 4 million in 24 hours... Hmmmm :confused:

You mean to tell me the site was down because Apple couldn't handle 4 million customers in a day? Eeek! That's not good.

That's not 4 million customers in a day, that's 4m starting at 12:01AM PDT going to 9AM PDT. It'd be interesting to know how many of those hit the carrier back-end validation systems.
 
With all the bashing of Apple not innovating.. I really would like to see Samsung's next best thing. Will it be bigger screens? Or something really innovating like getting rid of plastics, interchange battery and microsd? Oh wait Samsung Alpha. Seriously what will Samsung do next? Or Wait for iPhone 6S/7 rumors and throw a bunch of stuff on the board and hope it sticks.

Is that why everything Apple has included in iOS 7 and iOS 8 has already existed on Android for years prior? And it's nice to see Apple finally giving their customers what Samsung users have enjoyed for years, bigger screens.

Yes, Apple is truly an innovator. Oops, misspelled that. I meant to type "follower".
 
With all the bashing of Apple not innovating.. I really would like to see Samsung's next best thing. Will it be bigger screens? Or something really innovating like getting rid of plastics, interchange battery and microsd? Oh wait Samsung Alpha. Seriously what will Samsung do next? Or Wait for iPhone 6S/7 rumors and throw a bunch of stuff on the board and hope it sticks.

Fore sure there will be more adds, I think that is their strategy; and to be honest I think it work pretty well. Apple still target people with higher incomes, education, etc.... Not everyone could afford an iPhone (high end, new)
 
Not really, it's saying that the way their parts are used is blah.

Ah cognitive dissonance. The bleh way they use our parts is wrong, but their bleh usage makes us money so it's good.

Let's be honest, Samsung is not giving each other high fives when the iPhone outsells their phones. Making such a statement is laughable. But it appears that that's what we're running with in this thread.
 
I've used just about every flagship Android phones in addition to my iPhones for several years (work and home). There are things that both platforms have.
There are stuff on iOS that Android only just got or still have not got that makes iOS preferable for many people. It is base on your use case.

-For years, Android never got working Cisco VPN. Just recently and it is still kludgey. 5-6 years. CalDAV is supported by 3rd party apps but iOS treates it like a 1st party solution. If you are not using Google's calendar service, you are at the mercy of the 3rd party apps that aren't that good in my opinion. Same thing with PUSH IMAP.

-For years, I still have not seen a good photo management solution for organizing photos. For example, if I take pictures of a wedding, I may want to have the picture of the couple's toast first, the vows secondly. In Android organization is based on alphabetical naming, EXIF, or creation date. You can't randomly sort and arrange like you do on iPhoto. There is still no good 3rd party Play Store apps that match iPhoto or iMovie on Android.

- For years, music management is still better on iOS. I have 20,000 tracks and I can have 5 different computers and 10 iOS devices play from the same library at the same time. I can stream music to multiple speakers in my house across multiple floors. My wife can stream music in the kitchen to the patio at the same time while I stream to the bedroom and my office. All from the same account. I can play my music from my office while my wife plays the same library in the car. My kids can play the same library at home all at the same time. Google Play works with only one device at a time. Apple AirPlay is still undisputed for multi-room streaming and it is free. No need for Sonos.

- For years, for my workflow, managing cloud servers and databases was still better on iOS due to the better app selections. My use case, iOS ecosystem is better.

I'm not saying Android is bad. I liked my HTC ONE for the 1st month. I got me a 128GB micro-sd card then I found out Google is locking that down. 3rd party apps are sandboxed and siloed. The biggest benefit of Android over iOS was gone (ability to use sd card expandability). Then my camera easily gets scratched because HTC didn't think it was worth it to use sapphire on the camera lens (this is a big and common problem). It was those little details that bothered me. The HTC does have a better audio DAC but I still want better. I want to power my $600 headphones but the Android solution is klunky with USB OTG-dongle and external DAC. Now, 3rd parties are coming out with Lightning connector 24 bit DACs.

So it is the little things that makes iOS appealing for many people.

That is a well-thought out response, and it makes sense. There is definitely a use case for both platforms.

What bothers me is people here who simply ignore the fact that Apple has most definitely borrowed features from Samsung and Android in general, and act like Apple is the only true innovator and that everyone is taking their ideas from them.

Keep in mind the only reason Apple is offering bigger phones like the iPhone 6 Plus is because of the Galaxy Note's success. If Steve Jobs were still alive, he never would have allowed Apple to release a phablet.
 
You mean Apple told them they didn't.
Um no... Once people started using their phones less as a phone and more as portable computer it was clear that larger screens that can fit in your pocket were going to take over. We are at that time period. Apple can say whatever they want but they haven't convinced people to swap windows out for macs despite having successful iOS devices. So I'm not sure how your point works...
 
You are talking to the people who complain that they had to suffer through so many "Nobody needs a bigger screen" posts, correct? Because frankly, none of these posts "affected" them.

None of them are whining to me. I don't see how you sleep at night worrying about these people, did you also worry about the "nobody wants a bigger screen" people also? I doubt it, you were probably one of them.

Frankly I don't care about them or you.
 
You're still missing the point that 64-bit processors only have a real benefit with devices with at least 4GB ram. Most manufacturers are smart enough to know this, which is why there has never been a real rush toward a 64-bit smartphone environment.

It's well known that Apple simply did this to add a bulletpoint for their devices. Having a 64-bit processor with 1GB of ram is next to useless.

Say's who? A desktop computer running Windows OS?

We are talking cellphones here. All indication show iOS as a more efficient and seamless OS when compared to Andriod. Even when one (Andriod) have higher spec CPU and RAM.
 
*Though for the record: I never made fun of anyone with a phablet, and I always clearly stated that I understand quite well why someone prefers a bigger screen for web surfing. So there. :p

I probably did. My stereo BT headphones now make all the difference. Phone stays in pocket not extruding from the side of my face :p
 
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You're still missing the point that 64-bit processors only have a real benefit with devices with at least 4GB ram. Most manufacturers are smart enough to know this, which is why there has never been a real rush toward a 64-bit smartphone environment.

It's well known that Apple simply did this to add a bulletpoint for their devices. Having a 64-bit processor with 1GB of ram is next to useless.

Tell that to MySQL. The largest open source database project. MySQL databases run infinitely better on 64bit servers with less than 4GB of RAM vs 32bit servers with the same amount of RAM.

Fire up a debian Linux with only 512MB Amazon EC2 instance in 32bit and one in 64bit. There is a difference.
 
Sigh, android trolls.

Did you know that the iPhone 1 could do 60fps with iOS 1.0? Even android devices today can't do that, for the most part.

But more importantly, android apps suck. Example: why does Square Register need access to all my phone calls? And why can't I install it unless I agree to its demand for permissions?

On iOS I install it, then grant permissions as I see fit. Square Register doesn't need access to my call logs, and if I deny it on iOS it still works fine.

Android: crappy by design.
 
There's a lot of crap flinging in here at Samsung and Android.

I must remind these iPhone users of something very important that it seems they're conveniently forgetting. iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are catch-up products.

Just about every feature iPhone 6 and iPhone Plus have, Samsung and other Android manufacturers have been producing for many years prior.

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Samsung must rather desperate to have to pay someone to come into a Mac site to post this. #justsaying :)
 
Is that why everything Apple has included in iOS 7 and iOS 8 has already existed on Android for years prior? And it's nice to see Apple finally giving their customers what Samsung users have enjoyed for years, bigger screens.

Yes, Apple is truly an innovator. Oops, misspelled that. I meant to type "follower".

Most of the things that Samsung had for years were MacRumors months and years before even Samsung got ahold of it. LMAO!!!
 
You're still missing the point that 64-bit processors only have a real benefit with devices with at least 4GB ram. Most manufacturers are smart enough to know this, which is why there has never been a real rush toward a 64-bit smartphone environment.

It's well known that Apple simply did this to add a bulletpoint for their devices. Having a 64-bit processor with 1GB of ram is next to useless.

No, you are missing the point. Apple didn't switch to ARM v7 simply to add a bullet point. It let them double the performance of the A7 vs the A6 without doubling the cores or the clock speeds. That avoids heat issues. They refined it even further with the A8. ARM developed v7 specifically in anticipation of the move to 64-bit, which they thought would start with servers, not phones. It would have been pointless for Apple to create a 32-bit version of ARM v7 since they would eventually have needed to move to 64-bit.

If all you are worried about is memory addressing, you can add registers to a 32-bit processor. Heck, Intel did that back in the 16-bit days (which is why the 8086 and 80286 could access 1MB of RAM even though 2^16 is only 64KB). They just didn't do that with their 32-bit chips, which is how this whole myth that 64-bit is useful only with more than 4GB of RAM got started.
 
thats amazing...!!

can't wait for it to launch in India and get my hands on iPhone 6 Plus :D:apple:

What is amazing is the I am excited for it to launch in. India so that you can get your hands on one! I hope Apple is able to break through in the BRIC countries.
 
Is that why everything Apple has included in iOS 7 and iOS 8 has already existed on Android for years prior? And it's nice to see Apple finally giving their customers what Samsung users have enjoyed for years, bigger screens.

Yes, Apple is truly an innovator. Oops, misspelled that. I meant to type "follower".

Let's go with this and Samsung would be the king of all followers. From USB wall plug to software icons to phone design to geez.. what else?'

One thing Apple is not following though.. the purpose if this thread and the record breaking sales in comparison to Samsung.

I still like their TVs though.. Don't have one but I like them.
 
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