I wax going to suggest Apple puts such a sticker on the iPhone shrink wrap.
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Apple Could Be Forced to Include a Charger with Every iPhone Sold in Brazil
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Chargers that comply to standards are most likely not the problem here.
Some years ago cheap china chargers caught fire when charging iPhones,
and somehow people thought that was Apple's fault.
If you have a good charger that complies to USB PD and it still damages your iPhone, Apple will most likely service your device under warranty.
Ah, yes I've realised my error there. I think I was looking at my iPad charger and got it in my head that the phone must be Lightning to USB-C only. My mistake.
Are you seriously trying to convince us that in your entire household there is just ONE usb port that can be used for charging, and that your one and only USB port is on an iPhone charger that you include when you sell each phone?
Uhu.
Yes people do usually include the charger because they already have other chargers. But just like the new chargers in the box, few of those unused chargers will ever see any use.
Unless I missed something, if you give Apple $19 and they hand you a charger.
Are you saying Apple has to ask you? Or that it needs to be in the same exact box as the phone?
They can adjust prices in Brazil to accommodate
No I mean with online purchases would it be useful if the vendor (Apple, Samsung, whoever) asks if you require a charger. Might quell the argument for people that are frustrated about Apple deciding for them.
They have the "Here's what's in the box" info. And the charger is not on the list.
This is nothing more than public shakedown of Apple for some fast cash under the guise of a “fine” rather than some nobel attempt to protect consumer rights by the Brazilian state government.
I have a hard time believing that the consumers alleged to have been harmed by Apple’s action will see any benefit from the fines collected from Apple.
I have a hard time believing that the consumers alleged to have been harmed by Apple’s action will see any benefit from the fines collected from Apple.
Custom chip inside the charger hand shakes with the iOS device.
The log can be accessed even with the phone totally dead.
All I’m saying, they can legally protect themselves when an official charger is included. Will they go that way? I don’t know, they probably won’t refuse service but it’s a grey area now for the consumer in Brazil.
They gave us usb c cables b/c they know very few apple iphone users have usb c power adapters and would thus want to buy one...This was a bottom line decision.
It’s kind of scary how many people now think it’s the governments job to tell private companies what they have to sell, and private individuals what they have to buy.
Thank you Brazil.
Apple not including charger and headphones is nothing to do with “environment” it’s about their “bank balance environment”. Selling individuals items come with individual boxes and leaflets, which are more harmful to the “environment”.
Apple not including charger and headphones is nothing to do with “environment” it’s about their “bank balance environment”. Selling individuals items come with individual boxes and leaflets, which are more harmful to the “environment”.
My son just brought an iphone 12 and he was grousing about the usb-c cable and lack of charger. I asked how he planned to charge his phone then. He said he would use the cables and chargers from his previous iphones. Case closed.
It is shocking to me that Apple, one of the greatest company, making poor decision like this. The iPhone does not work without a charger, it is part of the device. It is like buying a car and it comes without the four tires. It is disheartening to see Apple being so cheap. It doesn't need that.
Maybe they should be doing something about knock-off, low quality, and/or "fake" chargers in Brazil?
Or maybe they should be doing something about people who want a cheap charger and are buying them? How about some responsibility by the people buying these knock-offs?
Chargers are ubiquitous to me and many other people. Certainly enough to justify not to ship them in boxes anymore. USB ports are more prevalent than the three prong 120V outlets. They are on almost every consumer electronic device and many extension cords and wall outlets have them.
With Apple and Samsung now aboard for not shipping chargers, I think other manufacturers will join the same band-wagon.
It's happening whether people like it or not...they will be paying for chargers in the future, unless of course they use the usb ports on one of the consumer devices.
So you would have been okay with the 5 watt charger. Just like car dealers usually put the cheapest tires on the car?
Building charger of the same quality as Apple's chargers is not difficult. Building the same quality at half the price, that's difficult.
Both obviously. Re-using your old charger is good for the environment, and it saves money. If the motive was purely environmental, then they would say "if you have a charger already, and insist on damaging the environment by getting a new one, then we will charge three times as much. "
The logic doesn’t hold because the phones aren’t the same as the ones that included charges. I’m not saying it’s true, but Apple can easily argue component prices increased costs, so removing the charger kept the prices lower. There is evidence to support 5G being costlier.