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the only thing that bugs me about facetime is the whole wi-fi thing, and i know that's been said a million times.
but you can video chat on a laptop/computer from your house,
doing it with iphone 4 is cool because it's portable. but still, if you can't do it on the go, it seems way less useful/cool.

Everything initially was limited in a way. Just give it a bit more time and you will be able to use it everywhere.
 
2 things i don't get it

there are only 2 things i don't get...

1. if all the iphone 4's out there are having issues with the antena on the ouside, how come they are still selling so many of them??? why people are still buying even if knowing there are some major issues????

2. hows apple clamming this video calling thing a revolution they created when my old nokia n95 used to do it over 3g 3 years ago?
 
Simple ads that make their point in a very obvious way. I don't think anyone would watch these ads and say "okay but I don't get it". Advertising is mostly about that, people understanding what the product is about. People still know nothing about Apple and their ads weren't very helpful as to what Apple is about: everyone still keeps asking me whether you can have Facebook on Macs and whether my iPod can make phone calls, I think people would love the stuff but they just don't know what it is. And Apple should also air their ads in other countries!
 
"Hey Dr. Johnson, my hooha is itchy and red, let me show you"
facetime!

also,
there goes sneaking off to the bathroom quietly while talking on the phone.
 
there are only 2 things i don't get...

1. if all the iphone 4's out there are having issues with the antena on the ouside, how come they are still selling so many of them??? why people are still buying even if knowing there are some major issues????

Well, In low signal areas the new design works better, and the 'major issue' has an easy workaround - hold it differently. I can live with that.

2. hows apple claiming this video calling thing a revolution they created when my old nokia n95 used to do it over 3g 3 years ago?

A revolution isn't the spark - its the raging fire.
Its not the idea - its how it catches on.

Never seen anyone video conferencing on a phone, so it hasn't been a big hit.
Now, that could be for many reasons - maybe it wan't that popular to build up momentum or it just didn't work as well.

The N95 sold a million units in 7 months - so the number of people capable of using video conferencing wasn't that great.

The ip4 sold 1.7 million in 3 days. And this time next year when the 4gs comes out - EVERY phone sold by apple will have facetime.

Never tried the N95 so i don't know what the picture quality was like, but it hasn't seemed to catch on, so maybe the experience wasn't as good as it could have been?

EDIT:
Just had a look, and the quality doesn't look great great in a small window let alone a full screen version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYVBok0I6EE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiVWtOd-vDw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGzEy3oQ4Co

If the reality of facetime is as good as it looks on the ads, maybe the tech has finally caught up with the science fiction?
 
quattro formaggi

IMHO

I'm not sure if Apple have changed their ad agency recently or not but the recent ads coming out just make me throw up a little

It started with the iPad (hate the script for that one) -
and now these - more cheese than a quattro formaggi pizza with extra parmesan followed by stilton and biscuits without the biscuits.

They're all getting a bit too Microsoft for my liking - where's the edge that made Apple ads more like their products?
 
Would you care to explain how exactly is the video conferencing of the I4 easier to use than say the traditional implementation that is found in most mobile phones: you select a contact and choose "make video call"? The method Apple uses where you have to first make a voice call then switch to video conference is more cumbersome, not easier.

Thats actually not true. You can make facetime calls without initiating a call first.
 
hey honey, nothing special or anything just a casual day but can you please switch your iphone to wifi and then let me call you at work and facetime me?

okay, you're going to be a dad. surprise.

man i didn't see any out of the ordinary news like that coming!


"switch your phone to wifi"
What does that even mean? Just touch 'Facetime'

If you don't have wifi, well all right. You can't use it. But I can. Don't try to say that it's not dirt simple. It is.
 
there are only 2 things i don't get...

1. ...

2. hows apple clamming this video calling thing a revolution they created when my old nokia n95 used to do it over 3g 3 years ago?
No. Apple sure wasn't first, but it is pushing it. First it made FaceTime an open standard, one that will quickly be picked up by other vendors, and are actively advertising this new [for Apple] feature... now show me the Nokia TV ads for video calls initiated on a Nokia mobile phone.
 
1. Awkward to hold the phone in front of you while talking, you can't go around town with your arm straight forward pointing your phone towards your face.

Obviously FaceTime shouldn't be used to replace every phone call, if you just need to ask if there is milk at home of if your should grab it on the way you don't need to FaceTime. If you are walking down a busy street, you don't need to FaceTime, or be on speaker at all for that matter.

2. People don't like fixing their hair before calling someone.

You aren't going on a date over the phone, its ok if your hair is a little out of place. Do we have a low self-esteem?

3. Not all friends have a video capable phone

Ok? 10 years ago not all friends had a cell phone?

4. It's costs extra per minute

So much extra thats it 100% at the moment, and will remain free over WiFi indefinitely.

5. 99% of the time it's more convenient to send a MMS of the t-shirt or whatever and then make a regular phone call.

Perhaps, but is it more convenient to take a short video of a new game you bought or a few friends that came over, then MMS it, or is it easier to just call your friend and show them?
 
Very cool ads....

They show the 30 seconds after the two parties spent 2 hours on the phone trying to explain to the "non-technical person on the other side" how to select the correct wifi for their location and find/enter the wifi key into their iPhone; after already having selected the neighbors wifi by mistake and typing the password in incorrectly for previous hour or two...

.... or perhaps a better scenario of the "big news" where the wife calls and says, "you alone? Got some big news for you! Switch to facetime!". So then he scrambles in the hotel to get the wifi on his phone to work but after entering all the correct information realizes that it's connected but not doing anything! So then he has to call the hotel main desk, ask why it's not working, and then they tell him he has to try to browse the web and enter his room information first before the wifi will accept him. So the he says, "Baby, I'll call you right back... " and he goes to safari on the iPhone, tries to google something so that it asks him the information.... and bam, it now asks him the information for the room number, last name, and hits some 'accept terms' check box..... and then calls his wife back and says, "Ok babe, I'm ready!".... and now the kids are home and everyone's screaming and she says, "I'll call you later tonight, everyone's over right now..." SO now the dude gets to speculate for the next several hours as to what's going on ... is it a promotion? Is she pregnant? Did she blow a bunch of cash on a spending spree? ........ And the joys continue with Facetime (tm).


Do you really not use WiFi? What's the big deal? Life ain't that hard!
 
I think the "When you're smiling"-ad is more appealing, simply because it shows situations, where facetime can be useful for some people (soldier seeing the first pictures of his child, hearing impaired etc.).
But I don't think anyone would like to hear "I'm pregnant" on a cellphone.
 
They disabled comments on the videos :|

One of the first things you learn in digital marketing classes is that disabling comments on youtube ads isn't worth it... (viral effect is greatly dimished by it)
 
These new iPhone ads get "thumbs up" from me. I like them very much. I think that they really try to capture some genuine human experiences in an honest and simple way. Very nice. I like all 4 of them! (Yes, I liked the Mac vs PC ads too, but these are very different, and very nice too.)
 
I signed up for a MacRumors account just to comment on how awkward these ads are.

I understand what Apple was trying to do here, but there is just something missing. Between the so-so acting and awkward dialogue, these ads make me feel uncomfortable at best.

Apparently, Apple doesn't want to admit that the primary use for FaceTime is going to be drunk dialing your friends at 3AM to tell them how trashed you are.

Also, side note: Isn't it convenient that "grandpa" has both wifi AND an iPhone 4? Call me crazy, but I don't know anyone that age who can operate a normal cell phone, much less setup a wireless network, successfully use an iPhone 4, and place a FaceTime call with anyone...


As a clueless 80-year old grandpa, I don't know what you mean by 'setting up' a wireless network. It's just there, for the house, or the rec center, or the airport. And I stick to iPhones now because the old Nokia and the Razr were too hard to figure out. Nobody 'tries' to use an iPhone. You just do it.
 
Oh for god's sake.

I've not even watched either of the video's yet, but just look at the top image (before you run the video)

The phone being held exactly as we've been told not to hold it. :(

Correction, now having watched the 1st video, it's being held in the Officially Wrong Way during the whole advert.

How dumb is that to tell the public one thing and show in your own advert another?
 
As a clueless 80-year old grandpa, I don't know what you mean by 'setting up' a wireless network. It's just there, for the house, or the rec center, or the airport. And I stick to iPhones now because the old Nokia and the Razr were too hard to figure out. Nobody 'tries' to use an iPhone. You just do it.

It must be nice to live in a place that has free open wifi...
 
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