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This ad screams "nothing to see here, move along".

Frankly it's easy to see why Wall Street is not excited about Apple. They have zero momentum.
 
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What is wrong with them making this ad? After all, it is about everything that has changed...

Which is: That they've become an old, somehwhat overweight company that is crippling their products ... just like age eventually cripples all of us. The arthritis is setting in. Time to take a nap. "Mac Pro? Whhaaa? Sonny, I didn't hear you"
 
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When I first watched Divei thought the old man was going to belly flop. I was laughing so hard I missed that he straightened at the last minute. Lame. This could have been a great one.
 
Update the music app with landscape mode and we'll talk about the speakers...
 
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It's because Apple doesn't get to lag behind the industry for x number of years, finally do something thats been done forever and then call it 'magical' as if they invented it.
Apple's been doing that from the beginning. They didn't invent the mouse. They saw it being used by Xerox and invented their own version. They didn't invent the touch screen. In fact, I remember when the iPhone first appeared and people here were saying "been around forever in Japan..." and FaceTime? Again, "Everyone in Europe has that. No one uses it..." Apple's way of doing things is to something that others have done and make their own version of it. Sometimes they do "magic" in that their "update" to what others have done for years re-invents it (so to speak), making it feel new and different. It makes users see how to use it when they never did before. It makes users excited about it when they never were before.

And sometimes not. But, yes, they DO get to lag behind the industry and say "we've reinvented this." You get to decide if they're right. But you don't get to say "they don't get to say this..." simply because they're late to the table with it. Late to the table doesn't make what they've done bad. Or the lagging the wrong thing...they may, after all, have lagged on the stereo to integrate it better with other aspects of the phone and improve on things like battery, etc. If they do it really well, better than it's ever been done, then the lagging might be worth it. It doesn't even take away their right to imply they've "reinvented"/improved on the original.

You can try out a 7+ and say "not magical." That's you're perogative. But saying "they can't say this because they lagged behind..." is nonsense. Unless you want to condemn them for always doing that? In which case, fine. But that's Apple. That's what you get. Each and every time.
 
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A phone as inspiring as that is worth at least $10,000. I'm so grateful it can be had for a fraction of that. :D
 
Apple's been doing that from the beginning. They didn't invent the mouse. They saw it being used by Xerox and invented their own version. They didn't invent the touch screen. In fact, I remember when the iPhone first appeared and people here were saying "been around forever in Japan..." and FaceTime? Again, "Everyone in Europe has that. No one uses it..." Apple's way of doing things is to something that others have done and make their own version of it. Sometimes they do "magic" in that their "update" to what others have done for years re-invents it (so to speak), making it feel new and different. It makes users see how to use it when they never did before. It makes users excited about it when they never were before.

And sometimes not. But, yes, they DO get to lag behind the industry and say "we've reinvented this." You get to decide if they're right. But you don't get to say "they don't get to say this..." simply because they're late to the table with it. Late to the table doesn't make what they've done bad. Or the lagging the wrong thing...they may, after all, have lagged on the stereo to integrate it better with other aspects of the phone and improve on things like battery, etc. If they do it really well, better than it's ever been done, then the lagging might be worth it..

You can try out a 7+ and say "not magical." That's you're perogative. But saying "they can't say this because they lagged behind..." is nonsense. Unless you want to condemn them for always doing that? In which case, fine. But that's Apple. That's what you get. Each and every time.

That is one elaborate excuse. Just wow.
 
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What we need is more dongles.

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That is one elaborate excuse. Just wow.
This from someone piqued by a commercial? Tell you what, if you try to remember next time that Jobs always said "It's like Magic" about things that were already on the market and merely reinvented by Apple, I will try to simplify my response next time we disagree.
 
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More like targeting a different audience, seeing millennials are not buying the iPhone 7 in the numbers Apple had hoped.
guess you belong to a bunch of poor young wanna-bees.
Or just the even more simple and basic reality of different ads simply being with different people and different settings.
 
Sometimes I get the feeling most of the people here are no older than 15, can't imagine why. God this place has become pathetic.

Agreed. And try and spread any type of optimism or positiveness about an Apple Product or the company itself on this website, and out comes the juvenile hate comments on "Why you're wrong." There are a lot of unhappy people on this forum that allow technology to dictate their unstable mood swings.
 
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Apple's been doing that from the beginning. They didn't invent the mouse. They saw it being used by Xerox and invented their own version. They didn't invent the touch screen. In fact, I remember when the iPhone first appeared and people here were saying "been around forever in Japan..." and FaceTime? Again, "Everyone in Europe has that. No one uses it..." Apple's way of doing things is to something that others have done and make their own version of it. Sometimes they do "magic" in that their "update" to what others have done for years re-invents it (so to speak), making it feel new and different. It makes users see how to use it when they never did before. It makes users excited about it when they never were before.

And sometimes not. But, yes, they DO get to lag behind the industry and say "we've reinvented this." You get to decide if they're right. But you don't get to say "they don't get to say this..." simply because they're late to the table with it. Late to the table doesn't make what they've done bad. Or the lagging the wrong thing...they may, after all, have lagged on the stereo to integrate it better with other aspects of the phone and improve on things like battery, etc. If they do it really well, better than it's ever been done, then the lagging might be worth it. It doesn't even take away their right to imply they've "reinvented"/improved on the original.

You can try out a 7+ and say "not magical." That's you're perogative. But saying "they can't say this because they lagged behind..." is nonsense. Unless you want to condemn them for always doing that? In which case, fine. But that's Apple. That's what you get. Each and every time.

You are correct, that has always been Apple, and I accept that, though using "Magical" recently screams of arrogant delusion , for a company that takes what others invent and makes it much much better is not magic....cause if it were the most magical company in the world is Samsung.

Saying a 3 year old device, the iPhone 7 is magical is a joke, forget magic, I just want constant improvements , I bought a 7, and when my 6S had superior redemption due to penny pinching, I was very disappointed , first iPhone I have returned as inferior. And that was £1100 .... For that much... Apple was still penny pinching :(
 
Agreed. And try and spread any type of optimism or positiveness about an Apple Product or the company itself on this website, and out comes the juvenile hate comments on "Why you're wrong." There are a lot of unhappy people on this forum that allow technology to dictate their unstable mood swings.

It gets harder and harder when you drop £1100 on a phone with an Intel modem which your 6S out performs, and when you are also used to buying the top spec models, a new MacBook Pro + iPhone sets me back £5500 pounds with worse reception and 16GB of ram.....I can try to be positive but it's damn depressing.

In my case it's value for money. You know I'd still probably be okay with the new MacBook Pro....but just can't go past the 16GB of ram , and the iPhone reception is a deal breaker
 
It gets harder and harder when you drop £1100 on a phone with an Intel modem which your 6S out performs, and when you are also used to buying the top spec models, a new MacBook Pro + iPhone sets me back £5500 pounds with worse reception and 16GB of ram.....I can try to be positive but it's damn depressing.

In my case it's value for money. You know I'd still probably be okay with the new MacBook Pro....but just can't go past the 16GB of ram , and the iPhone reception is a deal breaker

And that's fine if you express your disappointment in your Apple experience and I understand not everyone will be happy. But some forum members join the band wagon hate, because others are doing it with grade school comments. And it clutters this site with garbage when others actually attempt To contribute to something of substance.
 
And that's fine if you express your disappointment in your Apple experience and I understand not everyone will be happy. But some forum members join the band wagon hate, because others are doing it with grade school comments. And it clutters this site with garbage when others actually attempt To contribute to something of substance.

Completely agree with you, though don't forget we are grumpy old men, they are hip and cool :p thank you for nothing social media!!! I personally liked apple before it became hip and cool, I can see it in the posting quality on MR, you are spot on!!
 
The original Apple Watch is warranted for water damage and it is rated for IPX7, same as the iPhone 7. Except the iPhone 7 has a barometer, which can be used to measure water pressure and depth. So they could then use that information to determine if what you did was beyond the IP67 rating. Snorkeling typically doesn't break IP67 rating. 1m deep for 30 minutes.

A phone is different from a watch. I can imagine dropping the phone trying to take an underwater photo, and the phone remains submerged 20 feet for an hour on the ocean floor until I gather the courage to dive down and retrieve it. I then stop by the Apple store on the way home and demand a new phone. Apple would loose billions from snorkeling alone. Also, for the barometer to continuously log the phones depth would probably harm battery life, also how would you retrieve that data from a dead phone?
 
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