Apple Denied Request to Ban Tax Protestors From Its Stores in France

[justperry]

It is vandalism. Let me go paint all over your car windows and your house windows and see how you like it. Even if it can be washed off easily it is still vandalism. You shouldn't touch or deface anything that does not belong to you. If you paint on my windows you will be sued I can assure you that I will win as well.

Exactly correct, how about I come paint your windows since you find it acceptable.

Painting windows in a protest IS different, use water based paint though.

 

[apolloa]

People also say that Earth is flat.

Really? Where? Who claims the earth is flat in 2018?

 

[spazzcat]

Paint which can easily be removed by washing the windows is not "vandalising".



Erm, no.

It still cost them money to clean it off.

 

[Praesto]

Not relevant, fact is you have freedom of speech in Europe, glad the judge denied Apple's request.

They may have freedom of speech, but Apply pays to rent a space that includes clear windows, so that painting should be classified as vandalism. If I was Apple I would require a concession on rent until the protesters left. Protesting is fine, spraying paint, albeit temporary paint, is an entire different ball game. Either the landlord has a guy cleaning it as quickly as it gets put up, or Apple gets a rent concession.

If I sprayed your car to protest you or a company you work for, you would understand what I am saying.

 

[69Mustang]

Have those people got nothing else better to do the judge should of granted Apple’s request they have no right going into Apple’s stores and disrupting business! Pathetic if you ask me.

You're introducing unsubstantiated information into the conversation. There's nothing reported here that says the protesters were going into Apple stores. Should the protesters be allowed to deface the windows? That's a legit question that begs examination.

 

[Praesto]

So, if I understand correctly you find painting on a window "vandalising", guess what, you can wash that off in no time.

It's not about washing it off, it's about the fact that Apple pays for a place with clean windows. If I put removable paint on the windows of your home, to protest you living in my neighborhood, you would feel very very different.

 

[justperry]

Again I say: Europeans claiming support of “free speech” rights is laughable; they don’t know the meaning of the phrase.

So, they are dummies in your view, on behalf of all Europeans, thank you .....NOT.

 

[puckhead193]

so they can legally paint on Apple's property?

that's what i was thinking.. last time i checked that's called vandalism

 

[Rocketman]

I won’t weep over one of the largest tax cheats on the planet being slightly inconvenienced.

Being a liar on a public forum is common these days. Apple uses an accredited accounting firm to prepare its taxes and do tax avoidance strategies legally. In the EU case it is Ireland, the alleged beneficiary of the money sums standing up for Apple!!!

 

[skinned66]

I'm not cool with the paint either. Otherwise, have at it. Tax avoidance is legal, so is protest. Welcome to society.

 

[Dave245]

You're introducing unsubstantiated information into the conversation. There's nothing reported here that says the protesters were going into Apple stores. Should the protesters be allowed to deface the windows? That's a legit question that begs examination.

No they shouldn’t it’s not their property to do so, they also shouldn’t be allowed to disrupt a business it’s not just that it’s Apple i would be saying the same if it was Star Bucks, Google or whoever.

 

[BuffaloTF]

I don't care who you are or where you stand on this... that job they did on Emperor Tim Cook is one of the funniest things you'll see for a while. That's an instant classic.

 

[H3boy]

Taxation is theft

 

[Rocketman]

They may have freedom of speech, but Apply pays to rent a space that includes clear windows, so that painting should be classified as vandalism. If I was Apple I would require a concession on rent until the protesters left. Protesting is fine, spraying paint, albeit temporary paint, is an entire different ball game. Either the landlord has a guy cleaning it as quickly as it gets put up, or Apple gets a rent concession.

If I sprayed your car to protest you or a company you work for, you would understand what I am saying.

I will fly over and paint all the cars of folks who disagree with you in the slightest.

 

[Dave245]

You're introducing unsubstantiated information into the conversation. There's nothing reported here that says the protesters were going into Apple stores. Should the protesters be allowed to deface the windows? That's a legit question that begs examination.

Also there are videos of them on YouTube inside an Apple store protesting.

 

[c0ppo]

Not relevant, fact is you have freedom of speech in Europe, glad the judge denied Apple's request.

Free speech? In EU? LOL?
Try being a german citizen and writing just a simple post on facebook, something like this:
"Mass immigration is bad for us".

Good luck, because in 10mins police will come to take you in because of 'hate speech'.

 

[virginblue4]

Painting windows in a protest IS different, use water based paint though.

Your argument is very strange. Painting on the glass is vandalism, end of.

 

[ElRojito]

I’m somewhat torn here; but the comments that are “well serves Apple right! They should pay their taxes!” Kind if bug me. In my humble, narrow-minded opinion, there’s not a single person, liberal or conservative, that wouldn’t take a tax loophole if offered to them. Apple has a lot of money and can pay for really smart people to search for loopholes and you can’t tell me if someone said to you “hey I can lower your tax liability by 75% and it’s totally legal” you wouldn’t take it.

I say the law needs to be fixed more than anything.

 

[ravenstar]

So, if I understand correctly you find painting on a window "vandalising", guess what, you can wash that off in no time.

Sorry, that's vandalism. How long it takes to clean up is irrelevant.

 

[BuffaloTF]

Really? Where? Who claims the earth is flat in 2018?

Have you been living under a rock?

It's an honest thing that exists... again... in 2018. They've crept out of the woodwork in the past few years. And yeah, the things they say are as dumb as you're assuming by me confirming that it exists. The Falcon Heavy launch and Starman? They don't think it's real. Just google Flat Earth Society. Really. It would hurt my head too much to re-type things they say.

 

[mwd25]

Its not right to intimidate staff, those people are French people just looking to buy something or work for pay for their families. For sure protest, but don't rattle other innocent people wanting to be free to do their thing too.

I was thinking the same thing. I mean, they are at a local store. If I have a issue with McDonalds stripping the rain forest to graze cattle, I certainly wouldn't organize a protest at some restaurant where people are making minimum wage or just trying to get a coffee on their way to work. Go to Apple headquarters or another corporate location. You think a REASONABLE person would maybe feel intimidated approaching that store to buy something with that scene going on???
I do. Its like the Gambino family standing in front of a store with a bunch of goons because they didnt pay their "protection" money. Someone's right to protest shouldnt impede others right to go to that store free of being intimidated, or even walk down the sidewalk to go to a different store.

 

[ravenstar]

Paint which can easily be removed by washing the windows is not "vandalising".



Erm, no.

You should have to wash your windows every day because I paint over them every day. Let's see how long we can go before you change your mind. Not that your opinion matters anyway, only what the law defines as vandalism matters.

 

[Glideslope]

What does that supposed to even mean.
Silly.

It’s ok. I understand.

 

[truettray]

If I encountered this outside of an Apple Store here in the States, I would probably be less inclined to go anywhere near the store.

 

[macduke]

The order states that the mere presence of protesters at Apple's stores in France, without violence, vandalism, or customers being blocked from entering the premises, is not enough to justify limiting the group's rights to freedom of expression and freedom of peaceful assembly protected by human rights laws in Europe.

I mean, in the photo it looks like they vandalized all over the front of the store and are blocking the entrance with their sign. What other sort of proof do you need to provide to get these jackasses to back off? Protest outside all you want, but you can't pull this crap.