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Jony boy, my X is laggy all around and it's not a me thing, it's a stupid apple-don't-care-anymore thing. Please don't insult us with a ****** software on a pretty nice hardware. ios11 on the X is beta at best. Fact that you got a big market does does not care does not mean Apple should sell away the company to the ****** market.
 
The level of discourse at MacRumors is embarrassing. It's like a bunch of children tossing around one line insults as if they are terrified of people and companies that actually succeed. 6 pages of snarky comments and not one tech discussion worth reading. It's sad, sophomoric and ultimately useless.
 
So are you predicting that most iPhone X users are having a similar experience to yours? I think you are actually the first person that I have heard who feels the way you do. Out of millions of phone users, there will certainly be a small number who don't like any feature.

But anyone who thinks that Apple is going to struggle to figure out how to embed a fingerprint reader under the screen for the few who don't like it versus continue to make Face ID even better is kidding themselves.

Touch ID isn't coming to any more phones anymore than a headphone jack is.

Was just a comment on the other poster who said "ANYONE" who uses FaceID will agree it's superior...wanted to make sure to counter that and say many do not.
 
The level of discourse at MacRumors is embarrassing. It's like a bunch of children tossing around one line insults as if they are terrified of people and companies that actually succeed. 6 pages of snarky comments and not one tech discussion worth reading. It's sad, sophomoric and ultimately useless.

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But to your point, you are correct, but this is also a hard post in which to have a tech discussion over. The changes that may or may not come to a future iPhone or Apple Park are too wide open to discuss with anything more than a wish list and pretty much everything about the current iPhone X is well known. You could start the ball rolling if you have a technical view to proffer.
 
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The notch hate makes me laugh. I like it and don't even notice it while using my X.
Right? I have to wonder how much of the hatred comes from people who have never used an iPhone X. I don't notice the notch because I'm too busy drooling over the design.
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I can't believe the hate for perhaps the most successful and influential designer of the past twenty years, with the most amazing back catalogue.
It's not hate, it's jealousy. People hate successful people and companies.
 
The iPhone X, Ive says, was designed to serve as a vessel for software, with a design that melds into the background. Apple's design team has always aimed to "get design out of the way." "We try to define a solution that seems so inevitable that it does recede," he said. In the future, Ive believes the iPhone X will offer capabilities it doesn't have now because software is always evolving, something he finds intriguing and fascinating.

I'm sorry, but how can you take any of this seriously? He's so full of crap. A "vessel" that "melds into the background", and is "so inevitable". The X is a nice phone I'm sure, but it doesn't meld into the background. If anything, Samsung could make that statement given the curved display that literally does blend into the background on the sides at least. The X has a chrome ring around it and a black border inside that... and the notch. That is not melding. And the "inevitable" crap.. a bit full of himself.

He comes across like a parody just being himself.
 
So… your solution is re-adding the complete forehead and chin, instead of having 90° of the display go to the edge? I'm gonna have to side with Apple on this one.
yea... you and which respectable developer?

Not even mentioning the ears make their apps look ridiculous, particularly coupled with the huge amount of added empty space at the bottom.
 
With Apple only having one major iOS release a year, this just strikes me as arrogance

Unless the . Releases are going to become epic, this is just marketing FUD.

Love Apple products, but this is crazy.
 
Love it or hate it or merely indifferent to it, in the end that notch is so distinctive that it really is a brilliant marketing move. Sitting in the library, hanging out in the doctor's or dentist's waiting room, sitting on the train or the bus, a casual glance at the person seated to you makes it immediately clear that he or she is using Apple's iPhone X -- not an older iPhone, not the iPhone 8 or 8 Plus, not a Samsung or Android whatchamacallit, but the shiny new APPLE FLAGSHIP device. BOOM!!! That instant recognition factor is worth a lot, folks.....

You really sit around in waiting rooms, on the trains, etc. worrying about whether people notice that you have the latest iPhone? Serious question. So basically the more Apple charges, the better you'll feel because you have the APPLE FLAGSHIP baby! BOOM!!! That is worth a lot right there. Total strangers being impressed that you have the APPLE FLAGSHIP. Why not tattoo a notch on your forehead and an Apple logo on your butt. That would really impress.
 
iPhone X will "change and evolve" over time with the addition of 2 new Animojis, a breakthrough Animoji Karaoke app, and a redesigned Apple Notch™ 2.0

Yes. I’ll go with Multimoji. A variant of Face Time where teenagers communicate in real time as Monkeys, Unicorns, and Dragons. :apple:
 
Only thing I want changed to not have the home indicator on the side of the phone in landscape. Fullscreen games that are landscape are tiny because of the safe space size. It also sucks for swipe to change apps messes up when you swipe to an app that is locked in landscape because the indicator will move.
 
well, what the hell Jony?

Does this mean good things in store for X, and/or X2, or does it mean X owners will be hosed and this is your omen?
 
This really excites me. The X is a fantastically designed device, but it's clear that the OS is just ported over with slight changes. Can't wait to see what they do with the software to utilize the design.
 
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The iPhone X, Ive says, was designed to serve as a vessel for software, with a design that melds into the background. Apple's design team has always aimed to "get design out of the way." "We try to define a solution that seems so inevitable that it does recede," he said. In the future, Ive believes the iPhone X will offer capabilities it doesn't have now because software is always evolving, something he finds intriguing and fascinating.

I'm sorry, but how can you take any of this seriously? He's so full of crap. A "vessel" that "melds into the background", and is "so inevitable". The X is a nice phone I'm sure, but it doesn't meld into the background. If anything, Samsung could make that statement given the curved display that literally does blend into the background on the sides at least. The X has a chrome ring around it and a black border inside that... and the notch. That is not melding. And the "inevitable" crap.. a bit full of himself.

He comes across like a parody just being himself.[/QUOT
Well said. Ive’s success is sure to be off the back of the inspiration and work of many talented individuals. His ego is apparent by virtue of never putting praise for his team before everything else. Apple’s superb design style is a result of limitless funds, not one mans efforts.
 
Was just a comment on the other poster who said "ANYONE" who uses FaceID will agree it's superior...wanted to make sure to counter that and say many do not.

Actually, it was a response to me saying that anyone who used it could see that Touch ID is dead. Even if Touch ID was currently superior it could be clear that in the long run Face ID would be a better technology.

So, his saying he didn't like it was not actually a rebuttal of my claim that those who have had any experience with it would realize that there is not going to be any more Touch ID period.
 
I guess Johnny Ive is having second thoughts about the notch. Too much backlash on the comments section has gotten him to rethink it. lol. That's just my guess.
 
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