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Apple Details Lion Purchase Process for Business and Education
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I'm not thrilled with this either, but you need to re-read the PDF. You download the installer onto one machine, then either push it out to the remaining machines over the LAN (possibly using Apple Remote Desktop, or a similar infrastructure), or Apple would say you can use NetInstall/NetRestore.
You don't have to (and in fact, with this you cannot) download it from the App Store individually on each machine.
I think most of us in IT are trying to wrap our minds around how to handle this under non-Apple deployment methods; specifically, Casper or InstaDMG, scenarios Apple really doesn't speak to (and don't seem to care about).
You just have to download it once. Then you can take the dmg and do whatever you please with it, just as if you had the install DVD. All Apple is doing here is removing the step to rip the damn thing.
People are unnecessarily worrying about this.
Perhaps. I'm running Snow Leopard Servers too, have only ran SL servers, and have had no problems. I quite like it.
As your quote says, personal Macs. I'm talking about purchasing it for a business.
Edit: I found this in the T&C:
Seems reasonable. Still don't like the App Store though. Would prefer DVD, USB, of SD card. also, Better have a hard drive defragger ready.
1 - Copy 4 gigs to your drive
2 - overwrite old system
3 - delete 4 gigs from your drive
4- defrag
1 - Copy 4 gigs to your drive
2 - overwrite old system
3 - delete 4 gigs from your drive
4- defrag
Cut the Mac sell only iOS
I agree with you. The WWDC thing this year at least gave some time to the Mac OS. This is even though most of it was showing how they have dumbed down the Mac OS to just be another version of the iOS.
The part on iCloud was basically bad news for the Mac User. For this reason they never showed an iMac, Mac Mini or Mac Pro. They only showed the MacBook Pro enough to make it look like they were thinking of the Mac also.
As you have mentioned it looks like Steve Jobs wants to get rid of the Mac, but at this point he knows that it would hurt iOS product sales.
I stopped using my 64 GB iPod Touch as it would not wirelessly connect to any of my Macs. But a major part of that decision is that the app store is the only place to purchase software. Now if I was to change my Mac OS I have to go to tis same app store to purchase OS 10.7 Lion. It sounds as if this Lion has already bee neutered.
I agree with you. The WWDC thing this year at least gave some time to the Mac OS. This is even though most of it was showing how they have dumbed down the Mac OS to just be another version of the iOS.
The part on iCloud was basically bad news for the Mac User. For this reason they never showed an iMac, Mac Mini or Mac Pro. They only showed the MacBook Pro enough to make it look like they were thinking of the Mac also.
As you have mentioned it looks like Steve Jobs wants to get rid of the Mac, but at this point he knows that it would hurt iOS product sales.
I stopped using my 64 GB iPod Touch as it would not wirelessly connect to any of my Macs. But a major part of that decision is that the app store is the only place to purchase software. Now if I was to change my Mac OS I have to go to tis same app store to purchase OS 10.7 Lion. It sounds as if this Lion has already bee neutered.
You are reading too much into it. The reason there was only one Mac in that picture was to make Steve's point that the "Digital Hub" is no more. The PC isn't the center of everything like it used to be; it is just another device. That doesn't mean it's going to go away.
Ok where does it specifically say you download the DMG intact. It doesn't. Its all speculation. Like I keep saying Apple needs to tell us what to do. We don't use any of Apple's deployment methods (except Netboot) because none of it is worth a damn. We use InstaDMG and Casper something that actually works and has real support.
Mac App Store rules do not have limits to the number of Macs that can be authorized. If you're lucky enough to have 50 Macs in your household that you use the same Apple ID on, then you can install Lion on all 50 Macs for the same low price of $29.99.
iTunes has the 5 device limitation on videos (and non iTunes plus songs). MAS has no limits.
Can I just download lion from the app store, create a bootable lion DVD and upgrade or format and reinstall.
Or is lion going to perpetually require a snow leopard DVD to do a Microsoft style install?
I don't want to waste hd space on some stupid Microsoft style cheap oem computer restore partition.
Or is lion going to perpetually require a snow leopard DVD to do a Microsoft style install?
I don't want to waste hd space on some stupid Microsoft style cheap oem computer restore partition.
I wonder if they'll have to revise that clause, because as it stands, this method of distribution has Apple violating their own T&C.
It's not all speculation. This is the way the DP installer works now, and with a month away until release, it's not going to change. In a month you will be able to install OS X the same way you are doing now.
Apple believes that their way is the best, so that's the way they are telling you to do it. It would be nice if they'd support other methods, but that's not how they roll.
Yes.
OK, where does it say this. You're just speculating, my job relies on the right information.
Way to deflect. What the hell does the hardware side have to do with the OS being solid?
Suck it up. You're a business. Or should I say to avoid getting some nanny service warning, ``Do you actually expect a business owner to be extended the same measure as an individual not using the product for commercial use?''
Seriously, write it off.
Way to not read any of the followups.
OSX Server is nothing but Unix with a bunch of tacked on GUI components.
Dude seriously get a life. People jobs rely on getting the correct information from a company who does nothing but puts dog and ponies shows on to the enterprise in order to get their iPads and iPhones out. Apple doesn't care about anything else anymore.
Unless Apple updates the store to allow you to buy multiple copies, I'm not sure what you're suggesting
Edit: Or do you mean to buy 20 copies through Apple's business licensing even if you're only going to use ten?
In any case, it doesn't personally affect me; I'm only advocating on behalf of the person above who asked how to buy ten copies for a business.
Given your job I assume you have access to the DP, test it out for yourself:
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/
If you are still worried that it will change before release, talk to your apple rep. I'm sure they'll say that you can install OS X the same way you are doing now.
You mean the same rep that told us that Xserve's were being refreshed at WWDC this year so we shouldn't worry about investing in them. Yeah right. Like I said before Apple has zero reliability with Enterprises thats why I dont give a crap what TUAW says or what you say. I want to know what Apple says because at the end of the day my boss doesn't give a rats ass about Cougarcat's opinion he wants to know what Apple's roadmap is. They don't have one.
You sound like you need to go to the PC world to be happy.
Why bother with Apple if they don't do anything you like?