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Got the offer this morning. What an unexpected surprise! I wish they hadn't removed so many features from .mac going to iCloud, especially keychain sync and idisk. I also prefer Snow Leopard to Lion, and Leopard to Snow Leopard, but I guess you have to move on sometime. I love Lion's gestures and full-screen apps, and prefer Mission Control to SL's broken Expose which was perfect in Leopard.
 
MBA and Lion

I, too, was nervous about upgrading to Lion for iCloud on my first generation MBA, as it has just 2GB of RAM. I'd been holding onto Snow Leopard, which was working just fine, and then just the other day I noticed MobileMe had been discontinued on the laptop (I already have Lion running on my Mac Pro) and was forced to download, for free, the Lion upgrade.
So, aside from all the discussions here about iCloud and the upgrade path and its pros and cons I'd just like to record that despite all the earlier negative press about Lion's hunger for RAM, it is running just fine on my 2GB MBA, without any glitches. The original MBA was never what you would call a fast performer, but it certainly hasn't got any worse since I installed Lion.
 
She's not missing out on anything. Lion is laggy as hell and it chews up RAM as well. If she wants a computer that just works, she'll appreciate Snow Leopard far more, even at 10.7.3, Lion still feels like a Beta test. It really is Apple's Vista. The fact that Apple is pushing for people to get a free copy of Snow Leopard to get Lion is proof of that, they badly want people to switch to Lion, but the consumer knows better.


Lion runs quite well on my early 2008 MacBook with only 2gb of ram. It's one of the oldest products that can even support Lion.

And the reason Apple wants people to switch to Lion in this case, is so that they don't whine and complain come June when their MobileMe is no more and they have lost all of their stuff.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the cost of upgrading to Lion and using iCloud (free service) is FAR cheaper than the yearly MobileMe subscriptions they seem to be so attached to.


P.S, anyone stating that iCloud should work with Snow Leopard, it does, just not easily configured through System Preferences. It's still all CalDAV and CardDAV basically.
 
I guess this means those rumors of a 10.6.9 iCloud version were just rumors.

Kind of sucks for me because while my 2011 iMac is running Lion fine, not sure about my wife's Mini which is still on SL. I guess I will bite the bullet and upgrade it. Worst case, it sucks and I get her a new Mini and keep the old one as a media server after I put SL back on it.
 
Sorry, no Lion / Mountain Lion for me.

I bet that to install Mountain Lion, Apple will give you a copy of OS 9.0, Jaguar, Tiger, Snow Leopard, and Lion for free and you'll have to install all of them in the right order in order to get Mountain Lion.

Haha, this made my day. :D
 
That 4gb download of Lion is going to suck, especially for Canadians where Bell and Rogers (basically the only two ISPs) customers are limited to 2gb entry level service at bell (or 25gb for the next best) and 15gb with Rogers.

Just make a release of Lion on DVD.

I'm in Canada and I am not limited on bandwidth in my area. I am with Bell.
 
That 4gb download of Lion is going to suck, especially for Canadians where Bell and Rogers (basically the only two ISPs) customers are limited to 2gb entry level service at bell (or 25gb for the next best) and 15gb with Rogers.

Just make a release of Lion on DVD.

:confused:

well im from Canada and your really confusing me to what Canadians are limited to first you forgot to mention Cogeco and Shaw im not sure why you think Bell and Rogers are the only two, more Canadians I know use Cogeco and some use Shaw and than a few I know use Bell.

Cogeco plan I am on is 175GB, and that is the middle level, ive also seen ads comparing Cogeco and Bell and Bell has 120GB plans.

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I'm in Canada and I am not limited on bandwidth in my area. I am with Bell.

glad Im not the only Canadian that had no clue what that meant
 
LOL
how nice from them, to give me a FREE SL so that i can BUY lion so that i can finally access to that great thing which is iCloud.
no thanks, this kind of advertisement just works on kids..
 
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard: why upgrade to Snow Leopard first and then to Lion, when you can simply install Lion without having Snow Leopard? This is retarded, installing two operating systems on top of a third one just to get one new feature, which in this case is iCloud.

I bet that to install Mountain Lion, Apple will give you a copy of OS 9.0, Jaguar, Tiger, Snow Leopard, and Lion for free and you'll have to install all of them in the right order in order to get Mountain Lion.

Because you need to get Lion from the App store, to get the App store you have to have SL.
 
Still no universal app for iCloud

There are still thousands of us running large and expensive Power PC Powermacs and also iMacs, which are still working very well and have no need to be replaced. It was very disappointing that we were not thought of when Mobile Me transmogrified into iCloud. At the very least they could have left behind a legacy version of me.com, so that we could sync contacts at the very least. Given that Leopard works very well on G5 Macs, not having Slow Leopard was not an issue but not having synching certainly is.
 
LOL
how nice from them, to give me a FREE SL so that i can BUY lion so that i can finally access to that great thing which is iCloud.
no thanks, this kind of advertisement just works on kids..

agreed, I have Lion and ive never used iCloud, I really still dont see the point of iCloud unless you have unlimited Data on your iDevice
 
Like other posters here I have been reluctant to upgrade to Lion after all the pain I had upgrading to Leopard, and still have not fully converted any machine because a couple of test bank applications I use for my job (Univ Prof) only run in Rosetta.

However, Apple released the iBooks Author and I was curious about whether it would be a good choice for writing an inexpensive textbook for my students. It only runs on Lion, so I was forced to create a partition to run it. The partition started off as the smallest one on my 2TB internal drive, but within one week it became the primary partition.

I used Carbon Copy Cloner to move things around because CCC will handle the Lion recovery partition while Super Duper will not. Hopefully, Super Duper will get an update soon.

Once you get all the mousing set up how you like it and get used to versions, you will find Lion is actually a nice OS to work with. I really like how full screen mode works with applications such as Parallels and iCal. How I can program my Logitech Laser Mouse to switch between them, and I REALLY like how I can now separate my iTunes account from my iCloud account. I am the "sysadmin" in our house, and my wife gives me permission to say so! We started off with two MobileMe accounts, back when it was dot mac, but after one year dropped the subscription on the second one and kept the one that is in my name because that was also tied to my mac store purchases and became tied to the iTunes account. The problem with this was that I was the only one who used it for synching and other features beyond photo and video. My wife did not want my bookmarks on her account, or later on her iPad. Now, with iCloud and iOS 5, we have the best of both worlds. Our music and video on the machines and Apple TV's run through the iTunes account and our iCloud syncing is now running through independent accounts. So, now I can sync and backup all my machines, and she can do the same.

If you are on the fence, and can afford space to partition your internal drive, or have an external you can attach, I think you will find Lion has a lot to offer. If you also own an iOS device, iCloud provides a really strong sync and backup for both systems. It helped me a lot when I upgraded from iPad 1 to iPad 3 because iCloud knew exactly how my iPad was set up, and set up the new one automatically. It was cool even if it did take a while to download all the apps.

BTW - I have never seriously used Launchpad. Until every application I own moves over to the Apple approach, it remains a hideous mess. Microsoft Office and Adobe CS just fill pads with helper apps that you can never use and then need to be grouped in to ugly little folders in the same way they are grouped in the apps folder.
 
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Because you need to get Lion from the App store, to get the App store you have to have SL.

Exactly! And it's ridiculous. To buy a new OS you need to have a previous OS. Why can't you just buy the OS, and get it as a normal download, like you buy Photoshop? Or get it on USB? Or allow the App Store to run on every Mac? Or a number of other simple solutions that would look less clumsy and retarded than installing two operating systems one after the other?
 
We're running Lion on a 2006 Macbook Pro. 3gigs of RAM. Clean install of snow leopard then app store upgrade to Lion. No real problems. Could use more RAM, but 3gigs is the max I think.

On my other machines, 2006 MacPro and a 2012 iMac 27" i7, each with 16gigs of RAM it runs flawlessly. You just need RAM people. Good gawd get on Amazon and max out your systems already. For the iMac I think it cost $70. 16gigs for $70. Quit complaining and get the RAM.

+1

RAM makes a world of difference.
 
BTW - I have never seriously used Launchpad. Until every application I own moves over to the Apple approach, it remains a hideous mess. Microsoft Office and Adobe CS just fill pads with helper apps that you can never use and then need to be grouped in to ugly little folders in the same way they are grouped in the apps folder.

I kind of hope that the launchpad was an experiment they will do away with (I know that won't happen, however). I'm glad it's not invasive, so we don't have to use it, but I feel as though the applications stack is enough to access any application I could possibly want.
 
That's nice of them. Now I just need my iMac back, it's been in the shop for almost 2 weeks, in a minute they will have replaced everything in the computer trying to figure out what's wrong with it.
 
Geez, what about us who bought Lion ONLY BECAUSE of the iCloud!

Furthermore, I wish I never went to Lion, my macbook pro has slowed down immensily.
 
I really miss Snow Leopard. Lion sucks.

I have it for iCloud but that's it. If iCloud didn't require Lion I never would have upgraded. Snow Leopard is far superior.
 
Lol, at first glance I thought it was some Microsoft advertising for skyfail or windoze... Look at all that blue sky! :p

Omg that's what I thought too! So weird that Apple would choose that design. Even if it's just for this little upgrade memo.....
 
My BIGGEST complaint with switching is simply
not having iDisk. I really don't like dropbox from the file sharing standpoint. Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong but recipients of a shared file on Dropbox have to sign up, correct? Even if they do, they still have to sign in and do a few more clicks to download a file, right? iDisk produces a simple link that I can copy and paste into my own email and the recipients CPU auto downloads as soon as they click. Pretty idiot and error proof.
 
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong but recipients of a shared file on Dropbox have to sign up, correct?
Nope and its quite simple to share a file. Dropbox is a lot more flexible, faster and powerful then iDisk, hands down.
 
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