The 16" Mbp will clearly have a much improved chip than the A14/14X and apple i bet is working on a custom made gpu to replace the need for the dGpu from the bigger imac and the bigger macbook pro
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Apple Event to Unveil First Apple Silicon Macs Could Happen on November 17
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Jon also tweeted directly at an MR staffer about no Apple TV this year.
That above all is one major disappointment as I have waited to replace my third generation box.
That above all is one major disappointment as I have waited to replace my third generation box.
The problem is not that Rosette2 won't work, it is that after 18 months Rosette2 will be dropped and everyone will be forced to either toss their brand new Apple Silicon or move away from the X86. There is no future in Rosette2, just like there was no future in the original Rosette.
The 27” model is more likely to be used in businesses, who will want to bide their time before jumping to the new architecture. Updating the 27” therefore ensures that enterprise customers can replace their machines this year if required before evaluating the jump to ARM. That machine may well be the last intel iMac
While I’m in the process of installing an external SSD boot disk for my 21.5” late-2013 iMac, a new Apple Silicon model (hopefully with a larger screen in a similar size chassis) is likely to be an immediate buy for me.
Are these guys serious? Eight high-power cores and 4 low-power as the initial ARM based CPU? That will blow several product lines clean out of the water. That would mean no Intel CPU except MacPro and iMac Pro with at least ten cores, since core for core the ARM based processors are more powerful.
My prediction would have been that they use an A14, maybe clocked a bit higher, to replace the low end (dual core), followed by 4+4 cores to replace quad core and hexa core Macs, and only then 8+4 to replace everything except the very high end. Possibly using 3+5 cores like in the iPad Pro and then going to 6+5 cores.
My prediction would have been that they use an A14, maybe clocked a bit higher, to replace the low end (dual core), followed by 4+4 cores to replace quad core and hexa core Macs, and only then 8+4 to replace everything except the very high end. Possibly using 3+5 cores like in the iPad Pro and then going to 6+5 cores.
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I'm thinking Apple is going to stick with aluminum - - silicone would be grippy, but too flexible.
A14M? M14? M1?
Edit: Turns out the "M" prefix is already taken:
Apple motion coprocessors - Wikipedia
A14M? M14? M1?
Edit: Turns out the "M" prefix is already taken:
Apple motion coprocessors - Wikipedia
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This won't happen as the new Macs will be unveiled at MacWorld in January.
They've specifically said that ARM Macs will support Thunderbolt.
Well,
I've never been more exited for the new mac, however I was under impression that it will be able to run x86 apps using Rosetta 2, well boy I was brain-washed by apple.
turns out Rosetta 2 doesn't support many important apps:
Chrome, VsCode, all Electron based and Chromium engine based apps and more
The chip in the DTK does not have hardware support for 4kB pages, meaning many apps will not even run.
sure those apps mentioned above will be ported sooner or later, However there can be some plugins / sdks that may end not working for a while especially if the developer is busy and it's opensource.
so Yeah watch out for that before jumping blindly trusting Apple.
I've never been more exited for the new mac, however I was under impression that it will be able to run x86 apps using Rosetta 2, well boy I was brain-washed by apple.
turns out Rosetta 2 doesn't support many important apps:
Chrome, VsCode, all Electron based and Chromium engine based apps and more
The chip in the DTK does not have hardware support for 4kB pages, meaning many apps will not even run.
sure those apps mentioned above will be ported sooner or later, However there can be some plugins / sdks that may end not working for a while especially if the developer is busy and it's opensource.
so Yeah watch out for that before jumping blindly trusting Apple.
They could have fan and fan-less models. Similar to how the first macbook 12 was fan-less.
However, I think that would be too close to an iPadPro with keyboard and the only real difference would be the OS it’s running on.
My opinion only but I would not buy the first revision of a major redesign unless I absolutely had to.
...but the "pro" machines are going to be a harder sell, and highly dependent on a lot of third-party software running "native" (or, at least, working well under Rosetta). Even if the big "creative pro" applications are there on day 1, those users tend to depend on a shedload of third-party plugins and specialist hardware. Also, people are going to need a lot of convincing that Apple Silicon graphics can compete with the discrete AMD GPUs in the 16" MBP and 5k iMac - and that might have to wait for some sort of "Apple Silicon Pro" with improved graphics (which has been rumoured).
The "low-hanging fruit" for Apple Silicon is going to be the MacBook Air - the A12Z is already more powerful than the ultra-low-power Intel CPU - with it's feeble iGPU - in the Air, even running with passive cooling. If the ASi Air replacement doesn't blow the Intel Air out of the water, Apple must be holding it wrong. Also, a lot of Air customers will be happy if it performs well on iWork/iMovie etc. and web apps in Safari (all of which have been running happily on A-series chips for years). If (as Apple implied) there's going to be MS Office on day one, that's even better, but even Office under Rosetta will probably be perfectly adequate (just as 68k Office was OK on PPC and PPC Office was OK on Intel). For "personal productivity" use on modern CPUs, it's usually the OS that is doing the heavy lifting, particularly when it comes to making the GUI smooth and responsive.
So, my money would be on a MacBook Air replacement (although how it will be branded is anybodies guess), the higher-specced versions of which would also make the entry level MBP 13" redundant.
If Apple were really serious about the pro market they should also stop playing "I've got a secret" and release some sort of "roadmap" indicating what the pro machines will be and roughly when they will be released - the definition of "pro" user might as well be "someone who can't afford to change their workflow overnight on a whim" - but I think they're now a consumer-focussed company at heart. You've only got to look at the Mac Pro from a non-Fanboi perspective to see that their pro strategy relies on an existing customer base who can't/won't change their workflow.
Thunderbolt doesn't depend on Intel processors and Intel have become less picky about certifying non-Intel hardware - there are now a couple of AMD boards that support Thunderbolt by name.
Going forward, Thunderbolt 4 is really just an Intel certification program for USB-C that makes various bells and whistles that are optional in the USB-C/USB4 specs (such as the faster Thunderbolt-derived USB4 speeds and TB1/2/3 backward compatibility) compulsory for TB4 branding.
So it's really just a question of whether Apple integrates USB4 on Apple Silicon (and pays Intel for TB4 certification) or just includes Intel's TB3 controller chips. If it launches in November, they'd probably be the first to market with USB4, but that's not really surprising considering their level of involvement with the development of USB and Thunderbolt and their past role as a flagship for Thunderbolt.
twbancfthm could mean many things, it should be relevent to November event, hence for the AS macbook. C could stand for chip and THM for the highend mac(book).. there will be a new chip for the HM.. go and figure
MacBook Pro 13” with Apple silicon as fast as a 13” mbp quad core with graphics as fast as a 5500m and my wallet is ready.
*** humming *** All I want for Chistmas is an Apple Silicon MacBook Pro/Air without a Touchbar *** humming ***