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Does this matter when alternative stores are going to

which makes the whole thing non DMA compliant

It doesn’t. The DMA may say gatekeepers must allow third party stores. But the DMA also clearly states that Gatekeepers cannot be prevented from enforcing certain standards to maintain a secure platform. This means, Apple is allowed to define the parameters within which a third-party store can operate - which they do with their Developer agreement.
 
Apple is quoting a ruling from 2021, which was about a completely different thing and not even by the EU.

In the ruling, Judge Rogers says that Apple was lawful in its decision to terminate Epic’s developer account last year when it added the Fortnite direct payment option.

If I understood the article correctly, Apple revoked access to a developer account on EU soil (Sweden)
Epic files lawsuit in the US and lost.
Now they can file a lawsuit in Sweden…

EU laws do not appply in the US nor vice versa. US companies have to follow EU regulations for doing biz in the EU, nothing more
 
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I don't think companies should be able to strongarm Apple while demanding use of their hardware and software.
Nobody is demanding the right to use Apple's software, outside of the ability to develop third party apps for an operating system. Epic wants to be able to develop games and a storefront that Epic's customers can access from their iOS devices. All that requires is the ability to develop for iOS. Epic doesn't need all the extra infrastructure of Apple's services and storefront - they just need Xcode and access to an operating system API. Apple is the one tying all those extra services to their OS API.

I very much agree with it being akin to the asking a store to sell my product, while not paying them the cut I agreed to.
If Epic had the choice, they wouldn't be asking Apple to sell their product at all. That is the point - Apple are forcing developers to use their store in order to be able to develop apps.
 
I don't want to play in this sandbox anymore. Apple feels very evil now. This is not the company that I've loved, and yes was even an employee of. I want to get off Mr. Bone's Wild Ride.

Apple wanted cooperation and open standards and developer support when they needed it to survive. Now they're pulling the ladder up behind them at every turn. Apple Silicon machines are sealed appliances and all their extensions to ARM are proprietary. I am not supporting this any more. And developers are supposed to thank Apple for the privelige of writing apps for their platform? Give me a break. This is not the future of computing that I envisioned. Walled gardens and silos of proprietary technology are not a good thing for the industry.
 
the fact people applaud apple for just flexing their obscene control over the market is rather absurd; this is NOT in YOUR best interest _at all_ and just because you dislike [insert company being dicked over] doesn't mean you'll be pleased with [whom in power] does it to [yet another company] especially once it's one _you_ care about.

Which, FYI, is all of them, because without competition YOUR prices go up.

Stop cheering for TRILLION dollar companies.
Why is it not in my best interest? I have yet to see a credible argument that consumers benefit from forcing choice in narrow markets. I have yet to see a third-party developer on any platform achieve the same end-to-end integration as a first-party even when given the tools and access and I have yet to see any first-party developers do it as well as Apple for as many customers and in markets third-parties have no intention of serving.
 
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Also stated they terminated it because of Tim Sweeney’s criticism of Apple’s implementation of DMA rules. Which doesn’t sit right.
Yeah, makes no sense. There are has to be more to this story. Mr. Sweeney constantly stretches the truth to put him in good like and Apple in bad, but if those letters are actually from Apple it's quite confusing. Why would Apple have re-instated their account weeks ago, since Apple knew Mr. Sweeney wouldn't stopped his rectic on social just like Mr. Hansson and other prominent devs won't. Something doesn't add up here, so hopefully Apple finds a way of clearing this up, and if left to stand does put them in a terrible light, even for all those who love Apple and not fans of Epic.
 
Epic doesn't need all the extra infrastructure of Apple's services and storefront - they just need Apple's program Xcode and access to a Apple's operating system API. Apple is the one tying all those extra services to their OS API.
Added a few things to your comment. Don't get mad, when you are playing in someone else's backyard, that you don't like the rules.
 
Read the emails. Specifically this section mentions that exactly from Phil
That's a genuinely interesting email chain, if legitimate.

For those who want the executive summary, it's basically this:

Phil Schiller (of Apple): You've broken contract with us, and you're still constantly bad mouthing us to the press. Why should we trust you to not break contract with us, this time around?

Tim Sweeney (of Epic): Because we're acting in good faith! What proof do you want us to provide?

If I were Phil, I suspect I'd be asking for a lot of concessions, in answer to that question... assuming that he bothers to entertain the question at all.
 
It doesn’t. The DMA may say gatekeepers must allow third party stores. But the DMA also clearly states that Gatekeepers cannot be prevented from enforcing certain standards to maintain a secure platform. This means, Apple is allowed to define the parameters within which a third-party store can operate - which they do with their Developer agreement.

The DMA allows Gatekeepers to enforce standards to protect the security of the platform, but also explicitly requires the Gatekeeper to implement those measures only if they are "strictly necessary and proportionate".

Whether they are "strictly necessary and proportionate" is obviously not something left to Apple to decide unilaterally: the regulators are definitely going to have an opinion on that and have definitely the authority to challenge Apple if their opinion differs.
 
Apple spends $26 billion a year on R&D to create this valuable platform that developers want to be a part of, but dont want to pay what Apple asks? Do I have that right?
It's a relationship, Apple's platform cannot strive without 3rd-party developers.

There's a fee to pay to be part of it, but it has to be profitable for both to keep the relationship going. Not saying the app store is dying, fortunately, but Apple's classic hubris is well on its way to drive more and more players away.

In the end, we're the ones with fewer options because of this.
 
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