Apple Has a Redesigned Fingerprint ID Solution For the iPhone 8

[8281]

I love the way people get excited about a different way of doing what a phone already does. Once it's unlocked it's the same iPhone.

How is that different from literally any other product that gets regular updates?

 

[Royal Gala]

And yet u put a case on it and destroy the design. Never understod why ppl r obsessed with design its whats under the Hood and iOS that makes an iPhone an iPhone...5.5 viewing screen with or without bezels WHO cares

A very tired and false argument. Plenty of people today do not use a case with their phones. For those that do: 1) many cases only cover up the back of the phone, so a bezel reduction on the front would be very noticeable and valuable in everyday use (greater screen real estate); and 2)
it is not controversial to say that - while there are several driving factors - one pertinent reason that consumers are attracted to purchase iPhones in the first place is by virtue of their appearance (I use that word, specifically, because 'design' is deeper, referring to how something functions, as well as how it looks).

So yes, there is a clear incentive for Apple to focus on making the appearance of their phones as aesthetically pleasing as possible: it drives consumer interest.

 

[ssmed]

Finally, Apple innovating again! Take my money!

You wait, you'll probably have to buy an apple finger ;-)

 

[WatchFromAfar]

Well it's more because we can have a iPhone 7 Plus screen size in a iPhone 7 form factor. That's a big win for a lot of us who don't want to be forced to hold our phones with two hands all the time..

Don't me wrong, I get your point but I feel some people just like new cool tech because it's, well, cool new tech. They prefer the journey as opposed to the destination.

 

[44267547]

Now maybe they can copy my 10 year old Nokia and make a phone that doesn't sound like that caller is underwater.

Why would Apple copy a 10 year old Nokia? Your saying your iPhone or previous one owned has poor call quality. One iPhone experience based on millions sold doesn't prove anything.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

How is that different from literally any other product that gets regular updates?

Because it could do something that it doesn't already do?

 

[jonnysods]

I'm excited about the new phone. Haven't been excited about an iPhone model since the 6 (because they finally made a 4.7). A smaller form factor and same size screen would be welcome as I now have the plus.

 

[ValO]

This is looking more and more like a limited edition phone to make wonders to Apple's margins
$ 969 64GB and 1069 $ 256GB

I think it will be 999 and 1099.

 

[colbertnation]

You do remember Steve Jobs is the same guy that charged iPod touch users to upgrade to the newest software, right? Don't think he wasn't squeezing out all those pennies as well.

Yea, I was pissed off about that too, but realized that it was some bizarre accounting rule/law that forced Apple to charge for the update:

http://www.macworld.com/article/1131991/ipodtouch.html

I still think they shouldn't have charged $20 though. Why not $1?

 

[Fender2112]

How about some new Macs fro that finger print system.

Seriously, don't make me build another hackintosh.

 

[kdarling]

For sure, many bank and paypal use Touch ID for assess and payments, introducing something else would take like two years at the least before this is widely accepted.

A more global authentication API than the current one, could automatically accept whatever the user selects... be it passcode, touch, iris, whatever. That would future proof all apps.

I don't think anything about the fingerprint sensor being on the back is convenient or natural. There are literally thousands of times I have unlocked my phone using touch ID while it is sitting on my desk or a table, something not possible with the sensor on the back. The front is the way to go, in my opinion.

For most cases, yep.

Still, if the fingerprint sensor was on the back, then an iris scanner could take its place on the front.

 

[sofila]

Now there is a lot of competition in different forms. Apple has 2 choices, lower prices and deliver less or find new ways to justify price increases. Keeping prices and products the same will not work when competition continually delivers more for less or more for more (like Apple).

Very well put, but 1 choice is missing in front of competition
1 lower prices/deliver less
2 increase prices....and justify that
3 ...keep same prices and deliver a better product

 

[Twixi]

A very tired and false argument. Plenty of people today do not use a case with their phones. For those that do: 1) many cases only cover up the back of the phone, so a bezel reduction on the front would be very noticeable and valuable in everyday use (greater screen real estate); and 2)
it is not controversial to say that - while there are several driving factors - one pertinent reason that consumers are attracted to purchase iPhones in the first place is by virtue of their appearance (I use that word, specifically, because 'design' is deeper, referring to how something functions, as well as how it looks).

So yes, there is a clear incentive for Apple to focus on making the appearance of their phones as aesthetically pleasing as possible: it drives consumer interest.

Yes true, back in the days i only cared about design, nowadays i dont care if its 5.5 bezel free or 5.5 with bezels. But however, i remember when u protected and took care of ur iphone (iphone 4, 4/s) and it was a phone u could have more than a year before u grew tired of it, im very very curious to see the new iphone but i think its a phone thats going to be hard to get ur hands on the first few months, i really hope they will release an iphone that has oled currently using an oled phone myself and i love it

 

[KdParker]

Hope this redesign comes out this year instead of next.

Yep. We hoped for last year and nope....so lets see.

 

[Twixi]

Very well put, but 1 choice is missing in front of competition
1 lower prices/deliver less
2 increase prices....and justify that
3 ...keep same prices and deliver a better product

Mhm they r expensive now and iphone 8 wont be cheap, im still not sure they will release an iphone 8 this year mixed feelings

 

[x-evil-x]

Wouldn't the bottom right order of the screen be most natural for most people?

Presumably, if its software, you can choose where to have it?

It's pretty easy to make the apple logo the Touch ID if they wanted. Seems pretty natural to press that on the back of the phone with one hand.

 

[KdParker]

It would make sense for Apple to introduce the 7S first and then a few months later the 8. It would keep things exciting and sell a lot of phones. You'd have a lot of people that would get the 7S and then turn around and get an 8. That could be huge for profits.

I don't think they would miss Christmas rush. Even with limited supplies.

Guess we will have to see.
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I'm excited about the new phone. Haven't been excited about an iPhone model since the 6 (because they finally made a 4.7). A smaller form factor and same size screen would be welcome as I now have the plus.

I am hope the keep the form factor of the plus and give us a bigger screen.

 

[morjesta]

Is it true that they want to integrate the TouchID to the screen removing the home button?

This got me thinking, so if the Display is replaced due to damage, will it lose the TouchID functionality?
Since for now, if you replace the Home button with fingerprint sensor on an actual iPhone, you lose TouchID functionality.

*sigh*

 

[GQB]

Someone want to tell me how this brave new world of separate subscriptions for Apple, Netflix, HBO, Amazon, etc (each in order to watch one or two shows) is somehow supposed to be better or cheaper than Cable bundling?

 

[BoltmanLives]

People did figure this out as evidenced by the revenue in the last quarter.

Nice to see the Veblen good experiment works

 

[AT&T representative]

Looks like a useful spying tool for law enforcement. No longer will someone be able to blame others for what happens on their device as every touch of the screen will record a fingerprint. Yeah, your device is already being tracked but someone wants to know exactly who is typing. No more anonymity.

 

[SSDGUY]

Hmm … not a fan of the edge-to-edge display, because I like to add a case, mainly for a bit of grip. Handling a slippidy-slide phone is not for me. I used touch ID for a while but found it annoying … turned it off and set password requirement for a few minutes, so I'm not constantly having to enter it. (I don't keep much I'd consider sensitive on my phone anyway.)

 

[Keniutek]

And yet u put a case on it and destroy the design. Never understod why ppl r obsessed with design its whats under the Hood and iOS that makes an iPhone an iPhone...5.5 viewing screen with or without bezels WHO cares

I want the biggest screen possible with the smallest form factor. What's wrong with that? I hate the huge 7plus with so much "wasted area". As for cases. Never used one, don't think i will.

 

[I7guy]

Nice to see the Veblen good experiment works

Basically a "group" of people cannot explain the popularity of iPhones, so they rely on some 107 year old treatise on "conspicuous consumption" to explain the popularity. There is irony here.

 

[Telos101]

Is it true that they want to integrate the TouchID to the screen removing the home button?

This got me thinking, so if the Display is replaced due to damage, will it lose the TouchID functionality?
Since for now, if you replace the Home button with fingerprint sensor on an actual iPhone, you lose TouchID functionality.

*sigh*

Not exactly clear on your question, here, but I do know that if Touch ID on a MacBook Pro breaks, you have to get the entire Touch Bar replaced. We'll have to wait see if iPhone screen/Touch ID repairs similarly pan out...