Apple Has Received More Online Orders for New MacBook Pro Than Any Previous Generation

[FreshBoy]

Personally I think this new approach is the one Jobs would have cursed out. Replacing an entire interface long before it is even used just because someday it will be the standard is a poor approach to the problem. Even firewire was phased out slowly long after most firewire devices were old enough to be replaced. Just because USB-C is the future and is an awesome interface does not mean that all the USB-A devices out there are instantly useless and need to be be modernized. Especially at the rate in which Apple has been adopting new interfaces. I still don't own a single pure-Lightning device.

This new model should have been a stepping stone including both C and A and maybe on the next refresh drop the A.

USB C is the one port that does all. So buy a multi port adapter and wait for the competition to catch up or buy a dell that has one USB C and the other ports. Problem solved

 

[johnrlaporta]

Personally I think this new approach is the one Jobs would have cursed out. Replacing an entire interface long before it is even used just because someday it will be the standard is a poor approach to the problem. Even firewire was phased out slowly long after most firewire devices were old enough to be replaced. Just because USB-C is the future and is an awesome interface does not mean that all the USB-A devices out there are instantly useless and need to be be modernized. Especially at the rate in which Apple has been adopting new interfaces. I still don't own a single pure-Lightning device.

This new model should have been a stepping stone including both C and A and maybe on the next refresh drop the A.

Jobs did exactly what you are talking about by wiping out THREE interface ports (ADB, Serial, and SCSI) with USB 1.1 when the iMac was introduced in 1998. There was howling then the same as there is now. You can't say Jobs wouldn't have been a fan when he took the same road 18 years ago.

 

[magbarn]

It's not that it's a bad notebook. It's the price.

Apple can't help the slow down in processor improvements.

Apple can't help Intel's delayed chip releases.

But Apple can help what price they charge for their new MacBook Pros. It's just too much more money for not enough performance gain.

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And it should come with a USB C to USB A converter and a USB C to lightning cable.

Apple are embracing the future with their USB C ports, but they should also embrace their customers who have other apple products they may wish to use with their new machine.

Their iPhones need a new cable. Their DVD/superdrives need a new connector too.

Sad to say but the rMBP 15's Skylake CPU was available almost a year ago on XPS computers. Apple didn't even bother to use the best variant of the i7 on their rMBP 15 and instead cheaped out and used the same CPU as $1000 laptops.

 

[nurban1992]

This is actually sad, why are people willing to pay so much just to get screwed more every time new product launches

Because many of those customers understand that Apple's intention by removing legacy ports and replacing them with more modern and versatile alternatives is simply to embrace the most forward-thinking standards. And not to "screw them over."

They understand that changes like these need to occur at some point, or else innovation toward the future will become stagnant.

 

[cmaier]

This is just fantasy talk. It's about design choices. There's a whole army of Windows machines with Kaby Lake, or even quadcore kaby Lake in 2 months, in the same broad category.

Apple has shrunk the battery sized this generation. You can't make an argument about the battery drain of different CPUs or RAM when you've actively chosen to hack down your own battery size.

No it's not. Apple isn't going to change its entire form factor to suit intel's chips. It designs the computer it wants to design, and intel supplies chips that work with those constraints. Other computer makers are happy to dance to intel's tune.

 

[pbasmadj]

Jobs did exactly what you are talking about by wiping out THREE interface ports (ADB, Serial, and SCSI) with USB 1.1 when the iMac was introduced in 1998. There was howling then the same as there is now. You can't say Jobs wouldn't have been a fan when he took the same road 18 years ago.

Nailed it.

Jobs would have approved this design. Hard to say what he would say on the touch bar, but on the Model I purchased, the 13" Non Touchbar, he would have.

Hard to say if he would have kept magsafe, though.

 

[Pootmatoot]

Sad to say but the rMBP 15's Skylake CPU was available almost a year ago on XPS computers. Apple didn't even bother to use the best variant of the i7 on their rMBP 15 and instead cheaped out and used the same CPU as $1000 laptops.

Dell XPSs will be on Cannonlake, and likely on Icelake/Tigerlake before Apple next updates.

Then they'll release on Kabylake.

 

[AZ63]

They had more orders but I'm guessing they also had a lot of people, including myself, cancel those orders after coming to our senses...

Or
I wonder what the return rate will be when people find out the pain Apple delivered with their hardware decisions.

 

[Pootmatoot]

No it's not. Apple isn't going to change its entire form factor to suit intel's chips. It designs the computer it wants to design, and intel supplies chips that work with those constraints. Other computer makers are happy to dance to intel's tune.

They have changed their entire form factor anyway!

 

[Pootmatoot]

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I wonder what the return rate will be when people find out the pain Apple delivered with their hardware decisions.

I think the return rate will be fueled by the keyboard more than anything.

It's quite a... shock if you've been on a previous Pro, if it's anything like the Macbook butterfly. Which it apparently is, according to the first reviews.

 

[gnasher729]

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Just think how fast even the inexpensive flash drives can be, once updated to USB C. It's a game changer, because you'll get internal SSD-like performance from cheap pocketable flash drives.

I don't know if that was meant sarcastic, but no, you won't. Cheap flash drives won't even read the speed of USB-2 for small files; they won't get anywhere near the speed of USB 3.0, and USB 3.1 as supplied by USB C won't help at all. The last time I checked, SanDisk was about the only maker of flash drives that run at good speed. Everyone advertises the transfer speed, but the real speed is in the controller, with some flash drives having controllers similar to SSD drives, and some using cheap rubbish controllers.

 

[Kulfon]

This is what I said yesterday. So many people come to complain here but go and silently order whatever Apple is released, not matter what it is and how much it costs. Apple knows it and will continue milking the cow. Normal.

 

[Brian Clifford]

My heartfelt thanks to Early Adopters, Trend Setters, and the unfortunate consumers who had no choice but to buy now. Your money will fund the necessary and expected features in the next refresh and greater use of the mac OS Sierra platform rather than the mean incremental features at launch.

 

[gnasher729]

They say that touchscreen is a bad experience? LOL well then basically they are saying that the iPad and iPhone are a bad experience?

No, that's you jumping to stupid conclusions. iPad and iPhone are devices that I hold in one hand. There is no space for an input device other than the screen used that way. Makes touch screen perfect. MacBook is on a desk. Far away from your body. Touching the screen is physically exhausting in the long term. Desktop is worse.

 

[altair7]

And again this confirms that the delusional complainer on MacRumors forums has not much to do with the reality. I'm looking forward to my new 2016 15" and hope that Apple keeps up their excellent work in the future.

P.S. I'd too be surprised if I put literally the fastest available CPU and GPU (within reasonable thermal design spec) into my new laptop and then an angry mob tells me that I 'don't care about performance'

Good God man. You are the completely delusional one. You are probably the biggest fanboy on here.

These macs do NOT have the fastest available CPUs or GPUs. There are mobile Xeon processors available in machines of a similar size (Dell Precision 9000 series (XPS 15 workstation edition)) and the ENTIRE Nvidia 10 series is faster and more power efficient than the AMD chips that Apple put in the MBP. Also the fact that they cannot give a 32 GB option is horrible in a pro machine. And that is on TOP of the $500 price increase over the MBA and 13" MBP and the $400 price increase over the 15".

I hope that Apple becomes reasonable and gives professionals what they need. These machines are for consumers that want to spend $$$$ on something shiny. Sure professionals that don't need lots of power can use these just fine but for those that need power, we are screwed. Phil Schiller needs to go.

 

[gnasher729]

Schiller says theyve "looked into" the idea of a touch screen on a Mac laptop...but that it's a bad experience and not intuitive. I'd have to disagree. I love my iPad & iphone. I don't currently own a laptop, but EVERY time I use my brother's laptop, I ALWAYS try pinch zooming the screen to enlarge text or a picture. iOS devices have baked into our DNA at this point. So it's VERY intuitive to try and touch the screen of a laptop or desktop.

Same as my wife. But you are doing it _once_. If you had to use the screen permanently, you would soon get very exhausted from it.

 

[pbasmadj]

Good news for all the people wanting a computer with both A and C: Go buy a dell! See ya.
"This looks like a great idea!!" - No one, ever. Or, people with terrible judgement and no style.

 

[cmanbrazil]

The only thing Jobs would have done differently is he would have made a more arrogant sales pitch. Everyone needs to quit with the revisionist history.

 

[MartiNZ]

My heartfelt thanks to Early Adopters, Trend Setters, and the unfortunate consumers who had no choice but to buy now. Your money will fund the necessary and expected features in the next refresh and greater use of the mac OS Sierra platform rather than the mean incremental features at launch.

Gotta say I read that first as "Early Adapters"

@pbasmadj: Indeed, they should find a way to market the XPS as "easy as A (B) C"

 

[544263]

Take that haters!!!!

take what? a marketing announcement? ... i think we can't tell much now. lets wait a few months, watch AAPL, and see. to be honest i'm not sure what will happen.

This is what I said yesterday. So many people come to complain here but go and silently order whatever Apple is released, not matter what it is and how much it costs. Apple knows it and will continue milking the cow. Normal.

legit. after all, that's the no. 1 reason for a company to exist: milking the cow.

besides the obvious i wouldn't put too much weight on that press release though. - what else should they announce. ... they have announced the very same type of news for apple watch, just to later close down the Lafayette store and announce declining watch sales.

i think it's too early to really tell anything. i totally agree the world is full of hipsters that will buy that macbook, the forum here doesn't necessarily reflect the worldwide customers either.

therefore ... i'm really curious what the AAPL numbers will tell us, soon. will be exciting to see !!!

 

[jmpage2]

It's called settling for less or better living through lowered expectations. Ask my wife, she knows all about it.

 

[apusateri]

I hope that Apple becomes reasonable and gives professionals what they need. These machines are for consumers that want to spend $$$$ on something shiny. Sure professionals that don't need lots of power can use these just fine but for those that need power, we are screwed. Phil Schiller needs to go.

Yep, sounds like Apple isn't supporting your specific use case any more. That's too bad, and I'm sorry for you. Looks like you'll need to go the Windows/Linux route if you want that sort of power. I, on the other hand, love these "consumer" machines and am happy to spend my $$$$$ on something shiny, even if it doesn't have the absolute best possible specs.

I'd rather have a great-looking machine with good battery life and future-proof ports than a powerhouse that I can only use for an hour when it isn't plugged in. And lucky for me, it looks like I'm the type of consumer that Apple is targeting!

 

[mscice]

prices will go down in january i think...

 

[pmjoe]

The only reason for the high sales is that they made people wait for so long for an update.

Unfortunately, these are not "Pro" machines anymore. My current MacBook Pro is ideal. I can just grab it, go to a meeting and plug into any video projector; I can grab my camera and transfer photos on SD at any whim; MagSafe really was an innovation (possibly one of Apple's most significant in recent years). I don't even think I know anyone at work with a USB-C cable or device. Whoever dubbed this the DongleBook really nailed it. Next up is dealing with all the people who just buy these not knowing what they're getting into, and then come running around asking the rest of us for adapters.

 

[pbasmadj]

My heartfelt thanks to Early Adopters, Trend Setters, and the unfortunate consumers who had no choice but to buy now. Your money will fund the necessary and expected features in the next refresh and greater use of the mac OS Sierra platform rather than the mean incremental features at launch.

Or just buy another when the time comes. It's a $1,500 laptop, not a house...
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prices will go down in january i think...

Don't hold your breath on that one...