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This is why rational people do not like Liberals. They are tolerant only until you disagree with them. Then they need their safe spaces.
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Human rights? So, I take it you're pro-life then? If not, you can't even begin to talk about human rights.
There you go again... taking your view on something and assuming another person's thoughts have to fit inside your box.

Growth happens when you are uncomfortable.
 
I really don’t hate you because you all LGBTQ community choose being something that was never classified as a gender at all.

People having sex with same gender today or thousands of years back doesn’t make it right!

Even in all Abrahamic religions same gender sex was never OK. It is a huge sin you like it or not.

Do you think being a guy marrying another guy then thinking we want to have kids then decide to get eggs from sister and plant it into mother is something natural?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/woman-gives-birth-to-granddaughter/index.html

If you think that is normal and healthy relationship will come out of this, then I really hope you find peace someday.

God who created everything would’ve done much better than this chaos in human relations.

In short, relationships are mend to be between men and women shaded by marriage.

Hah! Religious values. Gotta love them!


Genesis 19:30-32

Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”
 
I really don’t hate you because you all LGBTQ community choose being something that was never classified as a gender at all.

People having sex with same gender today or thousands of years back doesn’t make it right!

Even in all Abrahamic religions same gender sex was never OK. It is a huge sin you like it or not.

Do you think being a guy marrying another guy then thinking we want to have kids then decide to get eggs from sister and plant it into mother is something natural?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/woman-gives-birth-to-granddaughter/index.html

If you think that is normal and healthy relationship will come out of this, then I really hope you find peace someday.

God who created everything would’ve done much better than this chaos in human relations.

In short, relationships are mend to be between men and women shaded by marriage.

F**k me, it's like I've teleported to 1932.
 
Congratulations for having a LGBT pride parade and an entire month (!!) to celebrate for it. Meanwhile Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders and so many others dont feel the need for a parade to feel proud or a month dedicated to them.... i guess they dont seek attention for doing what they do and being who they are...

I dont have anything woth LGbT community, anybody can be whatever they feel they want to be. I am fine with that. But everytime there is a “pride” parade where people somehow feel the need to go out on the streets, some of them half naked, to make a “statement”, I just cant help but cringe...
 
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I really don’t hate you because you all LGBTQ community choose being something that was never classified as a gender at all.

People having sex with same gender today or thousands of years back doesn’t make it right!

Even in all Abrahamic religions same gender sex was never OK. It is a huge sin you like it or not.

Do you think being a guy marrying another guy then thinking we want to have kids then decide to get eggs from sister and plant it into mother is something natural?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/woman-gives-birth-to-granddaughter/index.html

If you think that is normal and healthy relationship will come out of this, then I really hope you find peace someday.

God who created everything would’ve done much better than this chaos in human relations.

In short, relationships are mend to be between men and women shaded by marriage.

Go on, I'm listening.

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Cant help but wonder why a man in such a powerful and protected position as Tim Cook, only publicly came out as gay in late 2014?
Because everyone can decide on their own when they feel comfortable coming out. It's not your decision to make as to when someone "should" come out. Even if it's Tim Cook or some other extremely high-profile individual.
 
pride month has become this corporate stance thats shoved down your throat.

I'm all for you love who you love, however you want, whoever you want, whatever you want. It's none of my business. I just don't really like the stance the corporations have taken where I feel it's being forced upon me and others. Let people make up their own minds about it, don't shove it down peoples throats. This corporate reaction has already begun to backfire, as the younger generation is becoming ever increasingly biased towards LGBT people.
 
I'm having a problem convincing my three-year-old girl that she'll only make a mess if she tries to use the urinal, but my three-year-old boys can sit on the potty just as well as she can.

They all use the same bathroom at home. The existence of separate facilities in most public restroom is more related to social norms than hardware.

I disagree. It's an efficiency + infrastructure thing. There's a reason the line in the women's restroom is always longer than the men's.

Sitting and the associated privacy barriers take up more space. A zip down and back up is faster than halfway undressing.
 
Every time these articles come out, it reminds me how toxic the community on this site is.

Homophobia, constantly winging and hating everything Apple ever does or releases, it’s just plain sad.

Who would have thought an Apple fan site would be host to right wing nut jobs?
 
I really don’t hate you because you all LGBTQ community choose being something that was never classified as a gender at all.

People having sex with same gender today or thousands of years back doesn’t make it right!

Even in all Abrahamic religions same gender sex was never OK. It is a huge sin you like it or not.

Do you think being a guy marrying another guy then thinking we want to have kids then decide to get eggs from sister and plant it into mother is something natural?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/us/woman-gives-birth-to-granddaughter/index.html

If you think that is normal and healthy relationship will come out of this, then I really hope you find peace someday.

God who created everything would’ve done much better than this chaos in human relations.

In short, relationships are mend to be between men and women shaded by marriage.

Why is it not natural? What’s your definition of natural? Whether it occurs in nature? Because, guess what, plenty of animals have gay sex. The species closest to humans, sharing 98,7% of our DNA, the bonobo, is the perfect example: they do it with each other all the time. And not to procreate, just for fun. Seems very natural to me.

But wait, you’re grounded in religion, not facts and science, so you probably reject the Theory of Evolution as well.
 
Again... Since when are vets discriminated against.....? They don't really need a whole month! I would take a paid Pride holiday over a month though!
Since when were they discriminated against? Try after the Vietnam war when they were spat on and treated derisively by the left on their return from a war zone. Don't they teach all history in schools now or just the revisionist history of the left?
 
Yeap, I have to admit these days if someone told me they were gay i’d be like, woopdeedoo what do you want, a medal? I don’t see the need to celebrate your sexuality, it seems weird these days to do so.. but in my country gays seems to have just as many rights now as anyone else, so they don’t deserve special treatment as they are treated equally to everyone else as it should be.
Otherwise your being singled out as a group.. attempting to claim your somehow special and above everyone else?

Apple joining in to me is nothing more then a poor marketing ploy. What’s annoying is how they only do this for THIS event, to celebrate those fallen heroes they decorated a table on their canteen and tweeted a photo of it.....
It's not about wanting a "medal". It's about making sure you're accepting of it and making sure it's okay with you to continue a friendship for instance. That's it. That's the whole point of someone telling you they're gay.
 
I know that, but many of them do. And it does not help.


There is a difference between homophobia and disliking a lifestyle. It is inappropriate to become intolerant to different points of view. I don't find camp guys attractive. Does that make me hateful? No, it means I don't like certain lifestyles but that does not mean I can't be friends with people who have different lifestyles to me. I have gay, camp, straight and Christian friends with different lifestyles and of course different views on this very subject. If someone starts hurting others because of their sexuality, then you and I will be in agreement. But people should be entitled to peacefully hold and express different and unpopular views that you and I might disagree with.
I’m of the opinion that I can challenge views I don’t agree with too. Just because someone doesn’t agree with people being gay does not mean I can’t challenge that point of view. I think the only way homosexuality will not continue to be socially unacceptable in future generations is to give it exposure and normalise it for those who are threatened by it. We’ve come a very long way since the 1980’s where TV portrayed homosexuals as weird and likely to be HIV positive.

If there are gay people who are happy for pockets of society to treat them as second class citizens then that’s fine. I think it benefits everybody if we are a bit more educated though and I feel that should be promoted. Just my view.
 
Why is it not natural? What’s your definition of natural? Whether it occurs in nature? Because, guess what, plenty of animals have gay sex. The species closest to humans, sharing 98,7% of our DNA, the bonobo, is the perfect example: they do it with each other all the time. And not to procreate, justd natural to me.

But wait, you’re grounded in religion, not facts and science, so you probably reject the Theory of Evolution as well.

I don’t know why ppl giving examples of creatures that can’t think as you and me do; don’t know what’s wrong (bad) or right (good). Lions, chimpanzees are not human who can think, develop an idea.

And of course I don’t believe in theory of evolution....
 
Ignoring that second bit then, Cook became CEO in 2011, and was practically COO from 2007. Sure I accept he could just be a "private person" but here's someone who was in a position of power, extremely secure in their professional life, and living in one of the most liberal pro-LGBT cities in the world, someone who could have really set an example to others living in fear, without risking anything.
From the op-ed in which Tim Cook came out:

“For years, I’ve been open with many people about my sexual orientation. Plenty of colleagues at Apple know I’m gay, and it doesn’t seem to make a difference in the way they treat me.”

People knew, just not the public (except for when Gawker outed him). Probably because it’s a part of his life that he didn’t feel like sharing with the world. That’s fair.
 
Since when were they discriminated against? Try after the Vietnam war when they were spat on and treated derisively by the left on their return from a war zone. Don't they teach all history in schools now or just the revisionist history of the left?
Please show some evidence where returning U.S. soldiers were spat on and I don't mean heresay but evidence.
 
This makes me sick. Why do brands pander to those that live in sin?
If you have any faith in G-d you would know that homosexuality is an abomination.
They do this to normalize the sin.
It is still sin. Don’t do it. Pray for forgiveness. Open your heart and pray for redemption.
I’ll be praying for them.
Pray for me so I can win the damn lottery!
 
pride month has become this corporate stance thats shoved down your throat.

I'm all for you love who you love, however you want, whoever you want, whatever you want. It's none of my business. I just don't really like the stance the corporations have taken where I feel it's being forced upon me and others. Let people make up their own minds about it, don't shove it down peoples throats. This corporate reaction has already begun to backfire, as the younger generation is becoming ever increasingly biased towards LGBT people.

Look, and this applies to many of the previous replies, being LGBT is not being forced upon you.

You don’t have to conform for fear of being fired/disowned by your parents/beaten/killed.

You have probably never felt shame for loving who you love, had to hide it from family, changed the subject whenever friends or colleagues asked if you were dating.

You probably never contemplated suicide because no matter how much you try to be attracted to the “correct” gender and try to “pray the gay away” you couldn’t change.

Your marriage is probably recognised and respected in most countries on earth - even ones with a different majority religion.

So excuse us for remembering the riots 50 years ago that marked the beginning of the end of institutionalised homophobia and police harassment.

You probably have no idea how many Hollywood movies of queer historical figures have been “straightwashed” to prevent their queer lives being “shoved down your throat”. You’ll probably never know the feeling of seeing an identifiable love story for a lead character in a TV show for the first time.

I understand equality to the privileged must feel like discrimination but just be thankful you’ve never needed a “straight pride”.

I do not like when corporations use Pride month as a marketing tool to sell branded merchandise but if they are willing to stand up and say that they support the rights of LGBT employees to live their true selves then I’m all for it.
 
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