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My wife watched it last evening. She was hoping for more information and updates.
 
OK, now that this event is past I just want to know one thing:

When are we seeing "real" updates for the PowerMac and PowerBook?

I wish Apple put the same emphasis that they do with the Ipod on the professional computer line up. It's about time.

Now, that we don't have the Paris Expo keynote i wonder when are we going to see something?
 
Its been said many times.. but if apple don't have the CPUs then they can't upgrade.

Yes, they could add HD screens and other stuff, but that isn't as exciting as faster machines, imo.

The real upgrades will occur with the Intel processors. If Apple are 'about to' ( note the quotes) ship Intel Macs, they aren't going to redesign powerBooks and PowerMacs for PPC dual core - which they would have to - for just 12 to 18 months or so worth of life.


gugy said:
OK, now that this event is past I just want to know one thing:

When are we seeing "real" updates for the PowerMac and PowerBook?

I wish Apple put the same emphasis that they do with the Ipod on the professional computer line up. It's about time.

Now, that we don't have the Paris Expo keynote i wonder when are we going to see something?
 
Stella said:
The real upgrades will occur with the Intel processors.

Not necessarily. Jobs said there were some other great PPC products in the pipeline and I think that we can still see some major upgrades without going to Intel - at least in the case of the PowerMac. My guess is that we won't see an Intel-based PowerMac quite possibly until 2007. I believe the chips Apple is eyeing for the new PowerMacs will be the Conroe or Woodcrest processors, which aren't due out until the second half of 2006. So, I could easily see Apple releasing new PowerMacs at MWSF with dal-core 970s, 3 GHz chips, whatever before the Intel switch. PowerBooks, yes, that may be a different matter... Unless Apple sticks a lower-power 970 in those...

Stella said:
If Apple are 'about to' ( note the quotes) ship Intel Macs, they aren't going to redesign powerBooks and PowerMacs for PPC dual core - which they would have to - for just 12 to 18 months or so worth of life.

PowerBooks, yes, possibly, but the PowerMacs wouldn't need a complete redesign if Apple were to incorporate a dual-core 970 (or whatever) into them. And I wouldn't say it would be for "just 12 to 18 months" - think about it, that's a decent amount of time. So even if a complete redesign would be necessary, I could see Apple doing it.

Just my thoughts, I could end up being wrong. Only time will tell!
 
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Stella said:
Its been said many times.. but if apple don't have the CPUs then they can't upgrade.

Yes, they could add HD screens and other stuff, but that isn't as exciting as faster machines, imo.

The real upgrades will occur with the Intel processors. If Apple are 'about to' ( note the quotes) ship Intel Macs, they aren't going to redesign powerBooks and PowerMacs for PPC dual core - which they would have to - for just 12 to 18 months or so worth of life.

For the iMac and Powerbook, they could replace screens with high definition ones, they COULD actually update which RAM they use-you know, something that isn't close to 3 years old. They COULD put in better graphics cards. For the entire line they could add more USB ports. Their entire line has aged to the point of old. Their entire line lags behind PC's in almost every way except for cosmetic design.

Edit: Why shouldn't they redesign some of their products just for 12 months, the powermac is close to 3 years old. Other products fall into the same category.
 
Call me paranoid, but does anyone else think that Steve purposely moved up the rollout of the nano to screw Think Secret and other rumor sites over?

I just saw this bit (http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/6831/) where he says how relieved he is that the rumor sites didn't ruin the surprise, so it obviously is a concern.

Remember, Thinksecret (who for hardware rumors usually bats the highest out of all the sites for specs and timing) posted the news about the ipod mini's move to flash on Sept. 2, stating that it would probably be announced at Mac Expo Paris. Then, after a few days Apple strangely decides to cancel Jobs' Expo keynote. Coincidence? Not likely. My guess - this is Jobs' plan B (in case the lawsuits fail) to defang the rumor sites by undermining their reliability.

Then again, I'm not sure if they could have managed to gotten all that nano inventory into stores two weeks ahead of schedule if this was true. Maybe it was already in place in stores with black wrap, just waiting for the go ahead.
 
~Shard~ said:
Great to see Jobs speak again. It still doesn't make up for not having a Paris Expo Keynote though. ;) Guess I'll just have to wait until MWSF now...

He's probably energizing his RD Field for a massive burst at MWSF....x86 and all. Watch as a 12 block radius around Jobs's January keynote see sales increase 300% for about 6 hours after the keynote. :D
 
SiliconAddict said:
He's probably energizing his RD Field for a massive burst at MWSF....x86 and all. Watch as a 12 block radius around Jobs's January keynote see sales increase 300% for about 6 hours after the keynote. :D

Good point, thanks for the warning. I'll ready my tin foil hat and modified sunglasses - hopefully that will protect me...
 
max_altitude said:
Meh....
Pretty dull IMO.
iTunes phone...ugly
iTunes 5...ugly
Cingular guy...ugly
Motorola guy...boring
Maddona's interview...pointless
No mention of anything Mac related...disappointing
Streaming quality...poor
Harry Potter iPod...pretty cool
iPod nano...AWESOME
oh i forgot the "performance" at the end...crap

so far, i'm only on the ugly cingular guy portion of the broadcast...but i pretty much agree with you, except i like the thinner itunes 5, especially for my 12" ibook. harry potter ipod is pretty pointless, IMHO, though i am a big HP fan.
 
does any one else think that the QT streaming just BLOWS.
realtime is much cleaner and better. QT starts out fine then
goes wacky about half way thru. Srsly, it never works right for me.

imac G5 2 ghz 2 g ram
 
plastique45 said:
Rogers GSM Canada (and it's child company Fido) will carry the iTunes phone. It is listed as coming soon from Rogers.



Cool, you answered my question before I could ask it..Is this phone going to be available in a flip phone?

I would consider it for that reason...but, the Razor still is on the top of my list..
 
FlyNolJ said:
Why shouldn't they redesign some of their products just for 12 months, the powermac is close to 3 years old.
The Power Mac G5 was announced in June 2003 and started shipping around August 2003. It's September 2005 right now. That's closer to two years.

The Cingular guy was very personable - he appeared less "scripted" than the Motorola man, in that the former's delivery was much more natural sounding than the latter.

Kanye West's audio was a little messed up at the beginning of his performance - the vocals were too high compared to the music. It was nice to see that his commercial success and the recent reaction to his off-the-cuff comments of a few days ago didn't temper his lyrics.
 
~Shard~ said:
Good point, thanks for the warning. I'll ready my tin foil hat and modified sunglasses - hopefully that will protect me...
You forgot to add ;)
 
Ron Garriques, President of Moto's Mobile Div. a true ROKR

I think someone forgot to turn on his Parental Controls. Was it just me, or did "the person" who downloaded Gwen Stefani's "Holla Back Girl" chose the Explicit version from iTunes? It's always good when a company president starts his demo with:

"Uh huh,this my $#!t
All the girls stomp your feet like this

A few times I've been around that track
So it's not just gonna happen like that
'Cause I ain't no holla back girl
I ain't..."

I guess that phone must be the $#!t. Too bad he really didn't dance.

Appears at 26:02 on the keynote
 
Rod Rod said:
The Power Mac G5 was announced in June 2003 and started shipping around August 2003. It's September 2005 right now. That's closer to two years.

The Cingular guy was very personable - he appeared less "scripted" than the Motorola man, in that the former's delivery was much more natural sounding than the latter.

Kanye West's audio was a little messed up at the beginning of his performance - the vocals were too high compared to the music. It was nice to see that his commercial success and the recent reaction to his off-the-cuff comments of a few days ago didn't temper his lyrics.


You're right, my mistake. RAM is almost 3 years old, AGP has got to be getting close to being 3 years old. The G5 itself isn't 3 years old, but most of the technology is. That was the point I was supposed to be making.
 
thefunkymunky said:
Hi,

Does anyone know how I can watch the keynote using Jaguar. QT7 don't work in Jag :(

If your computer is fast enough, via VirtualPC. Or via a remote connection to computer having QT7 (might be quite choppy, though).
 
gugy said:
OK, now that this event is past I just want to know one thing:

When are we seeing "real" updates for the PowerMac and PowerBook?

I wish Apple put the same emphasis that they do with the Ipod on the professional computer line up. It's about time.

Now, that we don't have the Paris Expo keynote i wonder when are we going to see something?

www.macosrumors.com supposedly has the latest scoop on Sept. updates to the entire PowerBook line. Supposedly they are going to be "significant". Only problem is the link to the rumor is broken. Sounds like the history of Apple lately. All talk, no substance.
 
no audio

aegisdesign said:
A few people have reported that too.

You can fix it in an odd way...

Quit Quicktime.

Open /Applications/Utilities/Audio MIDI Setup.

Select the Audio tab

Set the output to 44100 not 96000 and quit

Try again in quicktime.


I am also having this problem, but there is no "Audio" tab in the Audio MIDI Setup, only an "Audio Devices" tab. And in that tab, the Audio Output is already set to 44100, with 96000 not even an option. So there's nothing for me to change to try and fix this.

Ironic that an Apple keynote address that's supposed to be celebrating how great Apple is doing in the audio world is not working, and instead is completely silent.
 
walkingmac said:
Anyone know a good place to download self-conained QT files of this event, other keynotes and other such Apple events like this?

It is difficult to figure out where to find the stream file. There are two relatively easy ways to save the stream.

1. Play the video full screen and record it to video tape through the video output on a powerbook.

2. Use SanpZ Pro to capture the video off the screen as it plays.
 
FrankieTDouglas said:
Call my ignorant, but what makes this not a keynote?

keynote noun 1 a prevailing tone or central theme, typically one set or introduced at the start of a conference

This wasn't a conference
 
QT stream was awesome

obeygiant said:
does any one else think that the QT streaming just BLOWS.
realtime is much cleaner and better. QT starts out fine then
goes wacky about half way thru. Srsly, it never works right for me.

imac G5 2 ghz 2 g ram

The QT stream was fantastic. 640 x 3nn at 30fps. I used the zoom feature in OS X to make play full screen at 30fps. The last Stevenote from MWSF only streamed at 24fps. This time the bit rate was about 600kbps.

Some years back when I started watching Steve's addresses via dialup. We'd get sound and occasionally a screen update would occur. This was awesome. It was clearer than broadcast TV. Only a few compression artifacts.

Probably the problems some had watching this stream were due to problems in the net between Apple and them. I used to look at the same sites from home and the office, both via broadband. The office connection always performed much better. Same source, same broadband, same OS, same computer, different location, different result.
 
Stella said:
Its been said many times.. but if apple don't have the CPUs then they can't upgrade.

Yes, they could add HD screens and other stuff, but that isn't as exciting as faster machines, imo.

The real upgrades will occur with the Intel processors. If Apple are 'about to' ( note the quotes) ship Intel Macs, they aren't going to redesign powerBooks and PowerMacs for PPC dual core - which they would have to - for just 12 to 18 months or so worth of life.

Lots could be done to improve the PBs. More Firewire ports, better graphics chip, decoding of H.264 HD in the graphics chip, better LCD, better trackpad, upgraded DVD burner, better speakers, quieter keyboard, brighter backlight, longer battery life all would help. A faster processor would help as well.

The processor doesn't have to make a huge leap to improve sales. People who just bought PBs are unlikely to buy new ones very quickly. However, those who purchased two years ago or more could be tempted by comparing the speed of their processors with that of the new ones. A 2GHz G4 would be a very tasty upgrade from a 1.25GHz G4.
 
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