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Apple Music Event Sept. 7

Definately the iPhone

I can say for certain.... how, I can't say, but the iTunes rokr phone will definately be announced next week. The TV ads may hit the streets next week as well.

As for the media event, I do not know if Apple has more to announce than the phone.... I would think that Motorola would make a bigger deal out of the phone than Apple.

I guess we will see!

Eric
 
"1000 songs in your pocket..."
Hopefully video ipods. Now you can carry around your movie collection in your pocket too. I think that is pretty revolutionary.
 
Lepton said:
Because you won't be watching movies on it. You'll be watching the weather in a 1-minute report. A 2-minute news report. A 3-minute music video. A 4-minute Rocketboom podcast. Things you can get in iTMS right now.

And, because you'll be making phone calls on it. Look at the Moto phones like the e680i. Stereo sound, stereo bluetooth, 2GB mem card yes, but also a 320x240 screen portrait-landscape, MPEG4, etc.
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I dont know that much about this so maybe you will correct me....

Video pod, you will download stuff onto it whilst you are connected to a computer? If that is the case, your new or weather reports wont be up to the minute surely? Or is it expected that the device will be wirelessly connected to the store? Do things like news or weather not cause serious hassles in that they need to be localised (im in the UK, i wouldnt want anything to do with the US weather!).... fair if you download and watch later you can choose what you want (though apple would still need to be providing alot of updates to cover the whole world!).

As for the phone thing..... is that not going to be almost entirely a US thing? Is it going to be compatible with other countries?

To be honest on phones i wouldnt buy one because im convinced in 6 months, the phone part will be out of date (i change my mobiles on a yearly basis simply because of wear and tear as well).

Cant wait to find out what this is all about but the reality of it is that all I really care about is the next innovation in music playback (which i doubt would be wireless ear pieces - just imagine how easy they would be to lose!)

Adam
 
Sky Blue said:
i think you're making that up. The iTMS was pretty much known before it's release and no one's said anything about video clips.
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no i'm not making it out...just watch n u'll see...
 
Hattig said:
afields said:
clayj said:
Definitely not the iPhone. My guess would be Video iPod.

Apple is hosting an event in the UK on the same day apparently.

As a UK resident I say: Cingular? Who're they?

iPhone is Motorola's baby, with advice from Apple. It is theirs to release - 10am eastern. Two hours later, 10am pacific (that's what you call it right?) the focus suddenly changes. Presentation is also shown at Motorola's event in New York (why not, I bet the iPhone will also support video, albeit not many on a 256MB Micro-SD card unless Apple bitched at Motorola and got them to integrate 1GB of flash memory (30 music videos at DVD resolution? But you don't need DVD resolution on a phone - you need 1/4 the resolution. That means over 100 music videos on a mobile phone with 1GB of built-in flash memory). iPhone support for video will be announced by Apple, because Motorola can't pre-announce it!

(I don't know the time for Motorola's announcement. Maybe it will happen after the Apple event, i.e., at midday pacific, or 2pm eastern)

Then there will be a 1200 post thread here on the vPod thread, and 400 on the iPhone thread.
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Well, I think nobody can really say as a fact what will come next week. We'll just have to wait and see.

By the way, a music video lasts an average of 3 minutes. 30 videos x 3 mins = 90 mins. Typically a 4GB DVD holds from 90 to 120 mins of "DVD-quality" video. So one fourth the size would mean those 30 videos on 1GB. Where do the other 70 fit in? I know you are only being speculative, but the numbers are wrong.
I think everybody is taking the "1000 songs" part of the invitation too literally. A number doesn't really have to be a part of the innovative or "revolutionary" part of the announcement.
Let's just hope the number they give along with the dollar sign isn't too big. Oh wait... we're talking about Apple products. :p
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Hattig said:
Heh, did you see my post on AppleInsider then? Practically exactly the same words :p

San Francisco = NOT iPhone, guaranteed.
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really? looks like an x-files-case ;)

i already feared that everybody would be laughing at my post...cause 2000 miles is ridiciously wrong, with my bad bad geography knowledge ;)
but it seems to be quite right.

but i immediately thought that...why is there an "after show event" on the other side of the country?
i mean, it´s obvious that steve will at least mention the itunes phone.
but i´m still on the "there has to more than that if they advertise it in such a revolutionary style"-side :D
 
RoKR event and Madonna advertisement

Well, seems like AI got the scoop and found out something about the new Moto ads for the RoKR phone...with Madonna, the girl who changed religion a thousand times (a jewish cabalist now?), and a certain "Biggie Smalls" (what is that, another yankee rapper?)...sounds pretty fishy to me, to say the least...
 
I have one question: When Apple announces new versions of ipod, are they always available in their shop or they set a future release date? How long do you usually have to wait to be able to buy it after a new ipod has been announced?

Thank you! :)
 
Templar11 said:
I have one question: When Apple announces new versions of ipod, are they always available in their shop or they set a future release date? How long do you usually have to wait to be able to buy it after a new ipod has been announced?

Thank you! :)
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They are usually ready to go the same day, although it kinda depends where you are. When the 6GB mini's were released they were immediately ready for ordering online through the Apple Store, but the Regent Street store in London didn't have any in stock yet... or so they said...
 
sure, i'd enjoy a new ipod/phone but if anything, what i would enjoy would be somthing that looks up song's lyrics in iTunes and stores them.

i mean, this way you would be able to look up any word that is sung INSIDE a song and you would get it.

for someone who can never remember names of songs, this would be a truely amazing feature that would be relatively easy to implement... :rolleyes:
 
dephlt said:
sure, i'd enjoy a new ipod/phone but if anything, what i would enjoy would be somthing that looks up song's lyrics in iTunes and stores them.
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That would be nice. It complicates the licensing, though :(
 
BRLawyer said:
Well, seems like AI got the scoop and found out something about the new Moto ads for the RoKR phone...with Madonna, the girl who changed religion a thousand times (a jewish cabalist now?), and a certain "Biggie Smalls" (what is that, another yankee rapper?)...sounds pretty fishy to me, to say the least...
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Actually, it sounded so absurd that I tend to think its right.

Plus 10 people squeezing into a phone box seems to reflect rumours of limited number of tunes on the iphone ;)
 
aswitcher said:
Actually, it sounded so absurd that I tend to think its right.

Plus 10 people squeezing into a phone box seems to reflect rumours of limited number of tunes on the iphone ;)
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I doubt the 25-song limit, though. Even with the supposedly reliable sources (such as Forbes) reporting such a thing. Really, if this phone can only hold 25 songs, it'll be the laughing stock of the industry. As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, there are already several devices that would blow it away in the capacity arena. I mean, I like iTunes as much as the next guy but t would be just the thing Steve himself ridiculed (commenting on the wimpy storage capacity of flash-based mp3 players) a few years ago.

I don't buy it.

Squire
 
Squire said:
I doubt the 25-song limit, though. Even with the supposedly reliable sources (such as Forbes) reporting such a thing. Really, if this phone can only hold 25 songs, it'll be the laughing stock of the industry. As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, there are already several devices that would blow it away in the capacity arena. I mean, I like iTunes as much as the next guy but t would be just the thing Steve himself ridiculed (commenting on the wimpy storage capacity of flash-based mp3 players) a few years ago.

I don't buy it.

Squire
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Well I agree, it would be kinda absurd. I dont buy the threat to Shuffle argument. Sure it will eat sales of Shuffles but they'll sell more phones and itunes to make up for it.

But what if it were either

(theory 1) introduction of H264 to allow more music on smaller memory devices like the Shuffle gets now but even more compressed...(the compression phone box thing would make sense in that context)

or

(theory 2) video on mobile iphones...enough space for 10 music videos...or your own homemade videos etc
 
yopp111 said:
Sorry if this has already been meantioned, but Apple has an agreement with the O2 network in Britain for the phone:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,173-1759197,00.html
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Well at least that answers the problem of an ipod phone being US only.....

On a side note, how does mobile purchasing work in the US? MOST people i know in the UK will get a new phone included with a new yearly connection contract and they will endeavour to get the phone free. It is most often only the more hardcore who are willing to pay a load of cash for a phone. Is this the same in the US or is purchasing a phone without contract more common?

Adam
 
Well if 1000 songs IN your pocket changed everything, imagnie what life is going to be like when are 1000 songs ARE your pocket; obviously Apple is launching a pair of jeans with a 4gb hard drive (or flash card) built in, in order to give you 1000 songs everywhere your Jeans go!

Thats why they say "1000 songs IN your pocket" - theyre not emphasising the number but the fact you used to have to carry somethign In your pocket...

Anyway - I guess i best get back to realiy now - off to do some analytical work for the pharmaceutical industry (no really, I am... :eek: )
 
UberMac said:
Well if 1000 songs IN your pocket changed everything, imagnie what life is going to be like when are 1000 songs ARE your pocket; obviously Apple is launching a pair of jeans with a 4gb hard drive (or flash card) built in, in order to give you 1000 songs everywhere your Jeans go!

Thats why they say "1000 songs IN your pocket" - theyre not emphasising the number but the fact you used to have to carry somethign In your pocket...

Anyway - I guess i best get back to realiy now - off to do some analytical work for the pharmaceutical industry (no really, I am... :eek: )
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Yeah, I can see this iJeans thing working, just a little plug on the rivet for the headphones and buttons built into the seams, only problem is Apple's notoriously short cords - this might lead to visions of many people sitting at their laptops or fiddling around behind the desktop sans pants trying to find a port.

Actually, come to think of it, a bunch of people sitting pantsless in front of computers isn't that far fetched....
 
aswitcher said:
Well I agree, it would be kinda absurd. I dont buy the threat to Shuffle argument. Sure it will eat sales of Shuffles but they'll sell more phones and itunes to make up for it.

But what if it were either

(theory 1) introduction of H264 to allow more music on smaller memory devices like the Shuffle gets now but even more compressed...(the compression phone box thing would make sense in that context)

or

(theory 2) video on mobile iphones...enough space for 10 music videos...or your own homemade videos etc
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What about FLASH-based mobiles..? This sounds more like it, as flash storage has the two main success factors for a future iTunes phone: little weight and footprint, and high capacity (at least 512Mb would be a feasible and cheap option for Moto and Apple)...we'll see..!
 
Dave00 said:
Depends on the movie. No, it probably wouldn't work for, say, Star Wars. But 16 Candles? When Harry met Sally? Or any of the other classic movies where you don't need a great visual experience to enjoy the movie? There could be a market. Just playing around, I shrunk a video down to around 200 pixels wide on my desktop, and you can still get a great idea of what's going on. I can imagine a market of people riding public transportation, or riding in the back seat of a car.

Dave
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Then you, my friend, are a super-geek. :D
 
There will be no video iPod.

For the simple reason that Apple doesn't offer "crappy experience" products, and that's exactly what a video iPod would be. It would be a gimmick that would have far, far, FARRRRR less appeal than the ability to take a full, mobile sensory experience with you like the iPod provides. They could add the ability to the iPod to play some video, but it wouldn't be worth having an announcement over because it would be a little embarrassing, kind of like the iPod photo. It could do it, but it would be a very little deal, a tack on to continue to add value and interest to the line.

As far as the phone goes and tying yourself to one carrier. Apple will have no problem with this. The iPod is tied to iTunes (and vice versa) exclusively already. This is a win-win for everybody. If the phone is cool enough, Cingular WILL get people who jump ship to them to experience it. Motorola hops on the iPod/iTunes music phenomena bandwagon and Apple enters a new market.

All that remains is to see whether the phone will live up to all the hype and hope that is preceding it. Few things do these days because dreamers aren't bound to real-world specs. We'll see next week..
 
Jobs will not spend the majority of an event talking about a mediocre phone that isn't even Apple's. There is something else at hand...he has something else up his sleeve.
 
jayscheuerle said:
Then you, my friend, are a super-geek. :D
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why?
whats so strange about watching some music clips or simpsons/futurama when you´re sitting in train or plane.
or taking your movies to your friends, plug the ipod in the tv and watch them on the big screen (cause i´m sure that would be possible too, as it is already with the color/photo ipods)

it´s not that you HAVE to, you just can if you want to.
and (like somebody said before): if you just want to listen to music like with the previos ipod generations, just do that. and be happy about the extra battery life.
 
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