Apple Music Event Sept. 7

N. Electron said:
Folks,

As some of you may be aware, Apple is hosting a big media event on September 7. It is billed by Apple as being at least as big as the original iPod introduction.

Well, I have travelled back in time to tell you how it's going to shake down. And it is definitely big. Unfortunately, I don't remember it verbatim, but I will give you the broad strokes.

Wait a minute, Doc. Ah... Are you telling me you built a time machine... out of a DeLorean?
 
N. Electron said:
He then goes on to announce that iTMS is now "iPod Media Store" (or something similar

iPMS?

Hmm...I can just see it now. Sometimes it won't let you connect at all, other times it will be unbearably slow, and it flashes rude pop-up menus at you when you click the help menu. Sounds like a Windows app. ;)

Squire
 
There's definitely something going on, down at my local shops it's minis-a-gogo but regular iPods seem very thin on the ground. Might be a very cool Thursday afternoon indeed....

Yeah, it'll be thursday afternoon, that's the problem with living on the other side of the world
 
Squire said:
iPMS?

Hmm...I can just see it now. Sometimes it won't let you connect at all, other times it will be unbearably slow, and it flashes rude pop-up menus at you when you click the help menu. Sounds like a Windows app. ;)

:D :D :D :D :D

That was too good!
 
Squire said:
iPMS?

Hmm...I can just see it now. Sometimes it won't let you connect at all, other times it will be unbearably slow, and it flashes rude pop-up menus at you when you click the help menu. Sounds like a Windows app. ;)

Squire

Buy that man a beer! :D

Adam
 
talksalot81 said:
Buy that man a beer! :D

Adam

Thanks, anyway, but I won't need one. I already have one...gulp...on my desk. Don't worry. It's evening here already. ;) (I'm sort of celebrating after finishing a big essay. This thread has been monumental in assisting me to procrastinate, by the way.)

Back on topic: Really, after seeing both the Apple and Motorola invitations, there's no way that this is going to be just a crappy 25-song phone. No way. something bigger. I won't be able to buy a phone from these guys so hopefully there will be another announcement, too.

<gulp>
<burp>
Excuse me.

Squire
 
N. Electron said:
Folks,

As some of you may be aware, Apple is hosting a big media event on September 7. It is billed by Apple as being at least as big as the original iPod introduction.

Well, I have travelled back in time to tell you how it's going to shake down. And it is definitely big. Unfortunately, I don't remember it verbatim, but I will give you the broad strokes.

(I did this for some friends of mine before Apple announced the move to Intel too, for kicks, and they seemed to appreciate the favour after it turned out to be 100% correct (including the legacy emulator, and the introduction of fat binaries along with the XCode version that makes them). So I thought I would do the same for all of you fine folks.)

(Apple Lawyers please note: I have not signed any sort of Apple NDA. Furthermore, no NDA was violated by the person who provided me with this information; namely, Steve Jobs himself, during his keynote--which hasn't happened yet.)

First, after blahblahblahing about Apple's successes (how many songs they've sold on iTunes, the coolness of podcasting, etc.), Jobs introduces iTunes 5.0, with video blogging and podcasting. When an update comes out, iTunes automatically downloads the podcast. Steve demos subscribing to and downloading a video podcast using iTunes software.

He then goes on to announce that iTMS is now "iPod Media Store" (or something similar; can't remember what the exact name was), and will now sell, starting immediately, music videos and full-length movies. Had to seal some major deals for this one.

Next, Steve reveals that he has been talking with some more important people and that some TV shows will start podcasting via the store. Pay for the season, and get a podcasted update every time a new episode comes out. For seasons that are already over, you can alternately buy and download the whole thing, or individual episodes. This whips Tivo, and whips it good.

Then, he starts talking about iPods. Here come the iPod upgrades. Nothing amazing to report here. Except...

Steve: "But what if you want to take your movies with you?" The answer: the new video iPod. Thanks to the H.264 codec, you can store several HD DVD quality movies (or hundreds of TV show episodes) on the iPod. Also, the new processor that they use supports H.264 encoding in hardware, so you can play the HD DVD quality movies either on the colour iPod screen or the TV.

Then he goes on to say: "Now you can watch your downloaded movies by hooking the computer up to the TV in the living room. Or even better: beam it." Introducing Airport Express with video streaming, and a video connection for your TV. This allows you to beam movies straight to your TV from your powerbook. He demos a movie being streamed to the screen from a Mac.

Steve: "But there is still a problem: any time you want to change what's you're watching on the TV, you still have to go over to the computer to do it. So we decided to allow you to control what you are watching right from your sofa." Here he changes the movie playing on the screen demos using an iPod -- that isn't plugged in. Introducing Bluetooth support in the iPod, allowing remote control of a computer. "The iPod is the new remote control."

Steve: "While we were at it, we decided to build Airport into the iPod too." He demonstrates buying a video from the store on his iPod, wirelessly. Video is downloaded directly to the iPod. iPod then beams the video directly to the big TV screen, connected to the Airport Express. "So you can actually use any available wireless internet connection to buy a video, anywhere, on the spot." Uproarious applause. "Suppose you're at your friend's house. You can buy a movie, download it, and if the TV is hooked up to Airport Express, even watch it, right there on your friend's TV, without leaving the sofa. No strings or wires attached." Crowd goes nuts.

Steve: "And your Mac will automatically detect when there is new media on the iPod, even wirelessly, so you can have the Mac get the video off of the iPod onto the Mac, where it can be used as the master copy to burn your own DVDs." More hoopla.

Steve: "One more thing..." Ed Zander appears and introduces the iPhone. Looks sort of like a phone version of an iPod -- very Apple. Uses the Cingular network in the US and O2 network in the UK. Has Bluetooth, allowing "remote control" capabilities like the iPod. Also has Airport, to allow calls over a wireless hotspot, and buy music and videos from anywhere, right on the phone.

As you can see, the keynote's a doozy. I might have mixed up some of the details (I'm going by memory), but you get the idea.

Back to the future,
Narcoleptic Electron

That would be fantastic :eek: !!
 
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So next generation iPod Mini will be slightly lighter, and have a longer battery life and be more robust.

In addition, new slim 1.8" hard drives launched with a 5mm thickness in sizes of 20GB and 30GB. Yes, the 20GB iPod is going to get slimmer. I now expect the lowest end vPod to be 30GB for a $50 price premium over the 20GB iPod.

As I've mentioned before, 1000 music videos will fit in 30GB. I wonder if Apple will give video capability to the Mini however - it could hold 200 music videos...

Actually, if this is such a major announcement, I'm thinking that the entire iPod range will get video capability. We'll know in 5 days time.
 
wasnt there something about new 40 (single) and 80gb (double) -drives from toshiba, with the size of the older 20 and 40 gb-ones?

i think these are more likely to be in the new ipod.

and i also thought the new mini would support flash memory, as it´s been mentioned here and on many rumour sites again and again (you know, the samsung story).
 
"we got some cool stuff on the way for you next week...
things so big, it´s gonna blow your mind"

i just heard it again, and listened especially to the last part.
that´s what the girl of the itunes-podcast "new music tuesday" says in the current podcast, as a preview for the next one which will be released around next wednesday.

has anybody some old itunes-podcasts? is she always enthusiastic like this? :D
 
Last week she said "I'll see you next week with new music from...." which is along the lines of what she says most weeks. God, I hate her voice.
 
okay, then it was really a special announcement this week.
that makes the whole thing even more interesting.

i don´t like her that much, too.
and i usually don´t like the music they introduce.
always those dumb white stripes ;)
 
TobyM said:
wasnt there something about new 40 (single) and 80gb (double) -drives from toshiba, with the size of the older 20 and 40 gb-ones?

i think these are more likely to be in the new ipod.

and i also thought the new mini would support flash memory, as it´s been mentioned here and on many rumour sites again and again (you know, the samsung story).

4GB Flash or 8GB Hard Drive version options?
 
ThinkSecret!

Yeah, I saw that too. Basically:

- iPod mini going flash memory, color ( I didn't know flash was that cheap!)
- Shuffle getting price-dropped, 2GB model added

But not at the event, probably at Paris instead.

The event will be on the iPhone and the partnership with CIngular. You'll be able to buy music through iTunes on the phone for $2 (otherwise, what's in it for Cingular?)

Video iPod is a maybe.

ThinkSecret is reliable but sometimes very wrong. They prediceted the iPod shuffle would have touch controls and a screen at MWSF.
 
Here's a wild idea...

What if the rumored form factor of the phone is not correct? I know a modified Motorola E398 (not sure if that's the right model number) has been making the rounds with iTunes software and all. But what if that's just a 'placeholder' for people to test the software, and a brand new, much snazzier phone is coming?

Just a possibility to throw out there. The reason I say this is that Apple seems to be hyping up this event. If it's just a regular mid-level Moto phone with a music player that says 'iTunes', that doesn't seem worthy of hyping, for fear of disappointment.

There's the other products too, but for now Thinksecret is predicting those will be unveiled later.
 
I think that there is a serious risk that what they announce could be a disappointment. If it is the phone, I (and many others) would be disappointed, if it was a new gen ipod or mini, many wouldnt be happy (though many again would). If it is the video pod, we have the same situation....

I think all the hype is maybe just a bit too much. Looking forward is one thing, but apple have people who are literally fanatical about all of this

Adam
 
While some of his post seems a little iffy (such as the time travel part), I really like the possibilities of wireless iPod + video-capable Airport Express + connect to Mac.

Other companies have tried to build wifi into music players, but run into usability issues. Apple can nail this down easily (all 3 parts.)

I don't think Bluetooth would be needed, since wifi could be used for remote control as well.

I really like it! I think iPod Video with built-in wifi would sell well at $499 or $549 (unlike how the Photo was received.) Look at the biggest iPod now, it's $499. If there's a iPod Video with wifi for $549, which would you pick if you were in the market for a large-capacity player?

And a new video-capable Airport Express at existing pricing would move too, as people would want both.

Yes, it's only for early adopters, but this combination would hook/em IMO. Later of course, this stuff trickles down and in a year and half all iPods have video + wireless. And then a year later, so does the iPod Mini. Don't know about the Shuffle though...kinda hard to watch video with no screen. ;)

N. Electron said:
Folks,

Well, I have travelled back in time to tell you how it's going to shake down. And it is definitely big. Unfortunately, I don't remember it verbatim, but I will give you the broad strokes.

...

As you can see, the keynote's a doozy. I might have mixed up some of the details (I'm going by memory), but you get the idea.

Back to the future,
Narcoleptic Electron
 
Well TS's material makes me happy we are going to get some nice updated toys. ... but the phone memory - too low. I wanted a gig at least...
 
i don´t agree with thinksecret on this.

releasing only the itunes phone would be a disappointment for nearly everyone, as there have been rumours for months about it.
and it´s definitely nothing revolutionary, as there are already so many mp3-phones on the market. would be ridiculous to compare it with the first ipod release.

what would make sense though, is a new ipod mini, cause it would fit the "1000 songs in your pocket"-announcement (4gb or 5gb).
with a new design, flash memory, color screen and improved battery life, that would be an nice new thing to play with.

anyone else sad that more and more people think it won´t be the ipod video?
 
Apple might as well move the new iPod mini models up from the January debut to the September timeframe to take advantage of the holiday season and further solidify their lead position. They might introduce it after Christmas but this could be a mistake. Getting a lock on the NAND flash market would drive out other flash mp3 player competitors.
 
Apple COMPUTER need to be putting more energy into making better computers.. the last Mac mini "update" for instance was a joke. They seem to concentrate on Music/iPods now, in fact, I bet the vast majority of the general public would now associate Apple with the iPod/iTunes rather than computer hardware. If you asked anyone in the street what came to mind when you said "Apple", I bet few would say iMac, iBook or Powerboook.
 
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