Apple Now Accepting Donations to Southern Poverty Law Center Following Charlottesville Protests

[barkomatic]

What happened 100+ years ago is of no concern to you because you weren't the one run over by a vehicle driven by someone who ascribed to the rhetoric that was prevalent 100+ years ago, A FEW DAYS AGO. Because you are probably white and do not need to fear those who proudly exercise their first ammendment right of free speech by displaing the flag of those who chose to fight to keep people in chains 100+ years ago. Those 100+ year-old symbols have no relevance today, right?

No one's talking about reparations, etc.

We're talking about taking down the symbols and monuments erected and still standing today, legally, mind you, that divide us and keep this type of ideology alive.

Now you have no excuse. You cannot deflect this because "you didn't do it". We have an opportunity, now, today, together, to end this once and for all. To stand up as a country and denounce the Confederacy and what it stood for and condemn the symbols that represented it.

If you don't speak up against it, you're silence speaks for it.

If you read the post you quoted from me I'm actually agreeing with you. Did you mean to include another post?

 

[hasanahmad]

Interesting that NO one mentioned that majority of confederate monuments were placed well after the civil war and as a reaction by jim crow folks against the civil rights movement as a form of intimidation.

 

[akadafni]

URGENCY is what I question as the operative word.

Why was this not urgent under 8 years of racial unifier but it's what's tearing society apart not even a year into Trump'S?

I think the answer speaks for itself. It's not really about statues at all, that's just the talking point and justification for de-facing and eradicating history,

And most of the people faux outraged aren't black either, the people who stand to be most offended by being reminded of some ugly parts of this country's history.
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I gave you plenty to work with ie to agree with or contest Line by line/point out typos instead like so many armchair virtue signalers do or even to be confused and conflicted about. You chose none of the above but rather to just say I didn't answer your question and summarizing my statements as adorable.

Good day, avid CNN viewer.

Right now the issue is at a fever pitch

URGENCY is what I question as the operative word.

Why was this not urgent under 8 years of racial unifier but it's what's tearing society apart not even a year into Trump'S?

I think the answer speaks for itself. It's not really about statues at all, that's just the talking point and justification for de-facing and eradicating history,

And most of the people faux outraged aren't black either, the people who stand to be most offended by being reminded of some ugly parts of this country's history.
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I gave you plenty to work with ie to agree with or contest Line by line/point out typos instead like so many armchair virtue signalers do or even to be confused and conflicted about. You chose none of the above but rather to just say I didn't answer your question and summarizing my statements as adorable.

Good day, avid CNN viewer.

right now the issue is at a fever pitch. Americans are fighting each other in the streets and the memorials, monuments, statues are becoming a symbol of hate to many people. Many who spew hate are using the statues as gathering places for their hateful speech. States and localities are trying to protect their citizens from potential blood shed and further divisiveness. Removing the symbols from public places won't erase hate. I recommend that if statues are taken down that heritage groups who are concerned should be able to take the statues and maintain them on private property or museums. Heritage preserved.

 

[thadoggfather]

Right now the issue is at a fever pitch

right now the issue is at a fever pitch. Americans are fighting each other in the streets and the memorials, monuments, statues are becoming a symbol of hate to many people. Many who spew hate are using the statues as gathering places for their hateful speech. States and localities are trying to protect their citizens from potential blood shed and further divisiveness. Removing the symbols from public places won't erase hate. I recommend that if statues are taken down that heritage groups who are concerned should be able to take the statues and maintain them on private property or museums. Heritage preserved.

Statues will get rid of racism about as effectively as gun control on lawful American civilians will get rid of Islamic radical terrorists known as ISIS but that our past president was too careful to not want to offend, so he was the only leader to ever carefully say ISIL each and every time, and with reluctance to want to even comment on any incident, hoping it would be related to something else preferably where he could stoke the racial divide fire with

If statues are WHY we have racism and the main culprit, we need to go after history textbooks next because those have lots of vile things in there as well.

And really, we should be going after Hollywood for STILL depicting racism in their movies, in a cool, desensitizing, and "entertaining" manner except in movies like Crash where they're trying to prove a larger point of how damaging racism can be.

I pose the same question POTUS poses "where does it stop?"

Is Washington DC soon going to be known as Obama DC or Hillary DC?

 

[0098386]

You know America is in a very dark place if speaking out against Nazis is considered a "leftist" partisan stance.

Indeed. Seeing Americans defend naziism is just so deeply wrong.
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Statues will get rid of racism about as effectively as gun control on lawful American civilians will get rid of Islamic radical terrorists known as ISIS but that our past president was too careful to not want to offend, so he was the only leader to ever carefully say ISIL each and every time, and with reluctance to want to even comment on any incident, hoping it would be related to something else.

This may be construed as opinion, but I dont know how people can see it as anything but what it is: fact

If statues are WHY we have racism and the main culprit, we need to go after history textbooks next because those have lots of vile things in there as well.

And really, we should be going after Hollywood films for depicting racism in their movies, in a cool, desensitizing, "entertaining" manner.

I pose the same question POTUS poses "where does it stop?"

Is Washington DC soon going to be known as Obama DC or Hillary DC?

Hello, just wanted to ask you to not be so paranoid. Nobody is changing textbooks, nobody is taking your guns, and feminists don't really want to steal your ice cream. It's disheartening to see people claiming this is a "slippery slope" (which is a fallacy btw. Look it up ).

No history books are being changed. All that is happening, is that statues erected after Jim Crow for intimidation purposes are being recognised for what they are. Guess what- history will still be there. You still have access to vast wealths of information on this topic.

 

[thadoggfather]

Indeed. Seeing Americans defend naziism is just so deeply wrong.
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Hello, just wanted to ask you to not be so paranoid. Nobody is changing textbooks, nobody is taking your guns, and feminists don't really want to steal your ice cream. It's disheartening to see people claiming this is a "slippery slope" (which is a fallacy btw. Look it up ).

No history books are being changed. All that is happening, is that statues erected after Jim Crow for intimidation purposes are being recognised for what they are. Guess what- history will still be there. You still have access to vast wealths of information on this topic.

How is de-facing Abraham Lincoln's statue in Chicago (and the graffiti at the Memorial in DC) being normalized as "commentary on racism" NOT a slippery slope? In addition to immediately having a knee-jerk reaction to take away 2A from law abiding citizens when the terrorist incident is Islamic radicalists and having a former president always commenting before the facts are out, and never criticized in the media even when he gets it so wrong?

Are you sure we're talking about the same country and same subjects here?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/san-bernardino-shooting-obama/index.html
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/statue-of-lincoln-defaced-in-chicago.php
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...memorial-in-washington-defaced-with-expletive

 

[akadafni]

Ims

Statues will get rid of racism about as effectively as gun control on lawful American civilians will get rid of Islamic radical terrorists known as ISIS but that our past president was too careful to not want to offend, so he was the only leader to ever carefully say ISIL each and every time, and with reluctance to want to even comment on any incident, hoping it would be related to something else preferably where he could stoke the racial divide fire with

If statues are WHY we have racism and the main culprit, we need to go after history textbooks next because those have lots of vile things in there as well.

And really, we should be going after Hollywood for STILL depicting racism in their movies, in a cool, desensitizing, and "entertaining" manner except in movies like Crash where they're trying to prove a larger point of how damaging racism can be.

I pose the same question POTUS poses "where does it stop?"

Is Washington DC soon going to be known as Obama DC or Hillary DC?[/QUOTE}. I see that you have some deeply held beliefs and won't try to change your informed mindset.

Enjoy your day and I hope you were able to enjoy the eclipse.

 

[supercoolmanchu]

Actually people hemmed and hammered all of this out all over the internet for years..How long have you been on the net?

I pop in, then I pop out. You?

Maybe, but I can find people shoving whole cans of beer in places I never imagined they could be shoved, on the internet.

The overwhelming amount of press online and off, the actions of major activists for gay marriage, and all proposed legislation, ignored the distinction. Regardless, now there is a climate of public shaming unless you adhere to the predetermined 'correct' answer.

 

[canadianreader]

I guess they need their victims in order to make some money they use key words like “poverty” “hate” “race” “islamophobia” to profit from people’s quest of goodness and when people from minority groups refuse to be victimized like Nawaz Sharif these organizations become hostile. It is pure EVIL disguised as good. Also this shows how Apple (Tim Cook) clearly supports the regressive left agenda.

 

[thadoggfather]

I guess they need their victims in order to make some money they use key words like “poverty” “hate” “race” “islamophobia” to profit from people’s quest of goodness and when people from minority groups refuse to be victimized like Nawaz Sharif these organizations become hostile. It is pure EVIL disguised as good. Also this shows how Apple (Tim Cook) clearly supports the regressive left agenda.

They are also a fan of NOT calling out terrorism by name OR commenting on polarizing events that go “well” that media is praying wont and strums up a narrative for— relatively speaking of course, at least from a no death toll count perspective, STILL i consider flinging urine and feces at law abiding law upholding standby peaceful police officers in the name of “fighting fascism” is vulgar (in addition to 50k “anti-protesting” 100 FREE SPEECH people in a gazebo that was hyped up as a white supremacist rally but whose primary speaker was a US Senator who’s Indian) and is worthy of all these companies condemning as well since CNN openly applauds AntiFa and we dont really know where Silicon Valley stands at this point, but can only assume: https://twitter.com/bostonpolice/status/898991076157136898
https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/898989750295470080


And more:
https://twitter.com/Rambobiggs/status/899074467095293952
https://twitter.com/Rambobiggs/status/899351488690098176

Whether you like Joe Biggs or not, he was one of few under that gazebo, so I think he (and Dr. Shiva, as a speaker at the event) are qualified to tweet about it

 

[spiffers]

Texas man tried planting bomb on Confederate statue

Anyone said Antifa aint terrorist?

 

[thadoggfather]

I just want to say: I love Red Pilling Apple fans sometimes (and by that I dont mean “get on board with conservatives” or even my own viewpoints which I assure you dont align perfectly with a party or individual, so much as MERELY outlining the ridiculousness and constant hypocrisy of modern day liberals that claim to always have the untouchable moral high ground— and get some people scratching their heads with what they actually genuinely believe and what evidence its based on rather than which emotion and on which day)

AND/OR

Triggering irreparably doomed and deep-rooted liberals who double triple and quadruple down to work extremely hard unpaid to unorganically and without solicitation, defend a party and group of seasoned, tenured politicians that dont even THINK about them

Win-win from my perspective

It’s never too late to be woke.

 

[DVD9]

You realize that RT which you linked to is run by the Russian government and is a well known propaganda site?

A single incident with one bad person doesn't generally define an entire group. It's the ongoing actions of that group as a whole for which we define them.

Excuse me?

RT is the best news site world wide.

Nothing else is close

I would fight a SWAT team with a butter knife before I would watch any TV "news" produced in the USA.

Everything, and i mean everything labeled "news" in the USA is FAKE News government propaganda designed to brainwash the American people in the interests of globalists who are systematically robbing the American people of their wealth as they have been for the past four decades.

 

[jca24]

People, please do not donate to this far left hate organization, there are plenty of good organizations that do tons of good things to contribute to.

 

[JRobinsonJr]

Indeed. Seeing Americans defend naziism is just so deeply wrong.
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Hello, just wanted to ask you to not be so paranoid. Nobody is changing textbooks, nobody is taking your guns, and feminists don't really want to steal your ice cream. It's disheartening to see people claiming this is a "slippery slope" (which is a fallacy btw. Look it up ).

No history books are being changed. All that is happening, is that statues erected after Jim Crow for intimidation purposes are being recognised for what they are. Guess what- history will still be there. You still have access to vast wealths of information on this topic.

In general, not being paranoid is a good thing. HOWEVER... the slippery slope is very real. The problem is not whether we remove confederate monuments. The problem is WHO gets to make that decision. As a representative republic we live under the law and this is a decision that should be made through either direct referendum or by the vote of elected officials.

In no scenario is MOB RULES ever a reasonable thing. Right now we might even agree with the mob, but what happens when all of the confederate monuments are gone. When we only see the mention of confederate anything in either textbooks or museums. What's next to cause offense?

As individuals, as citizens, we are more than the sum of our parts. I sing (badly) but that should't be held against me because I can do other things which outweigh that negative. Should the negative fact that many people in the past held slaves - something morally reprehensible yet socially acceptable at the time - hold more weight than many other positive facts about them? If so, then the leadership of Jefferson, Washington and all but 8 of the other 'founding fathers' should be considered tainted. If we then say that their leadership is invalid, what does that do to the underpinnings of this country. Do we then throw out the constitution? Do we say the Declaration of Independence is invalid... then go back under Englands rule?

Yes, those are far-fetched ideas. But that's the trick with the slippery slope. If we allow mob rule today without the input and approval of "We the People"... then anything really can happen.

 

[sk1wbw]

History isn't being changed. Removing the statues is about not celebrating a group of traitors who hated the USA, left the country, gave their cornerstone speech which defended slavery and white supremacy and then proceeded to attack our country and American troops when our first Republican president told them that slavery has been abolished and they must comply.


What policies and powers? People are simply speaking up against any kind of Nazism in our society.


"promoted traditional marriage" is a cute way of saying they only support marriage for straight people and not gay people.
Marriage is a legal contract between 2 people that is issued by the government, which has to remain impartial to all citizens of that country that are eligible.
That agency you mentioned wants to use religion to dictate that our secular, taxpayer funded government should deny equal rights and tax benefits to those same taxpayers due to sexual orientation, which makes them a hate group promoting hostility towards gay people.


The permit doesn't refer to a group, it refers to a specific area and time. Once it has been issued then anybody can protest in that area during that specific time.
So yes those counterprotesters are also allowed to exercise their same 1st amendment rights you claim to be defending.


Speaking out against nazism is, or at least should be, a non-partisan issue. Your post attacking Apple for speaking up is the reason why Apple, among others, has to speak out in the first place.
And why are they speaking out now? Because it just happened now...


Speaking out against nazism is not superficial nor a "personal agenda".
Oh and the company is doing fine as shown by their rapidly increasing value.


So why are you triggered when Democrats remove these statues?
And since you are well versed in our history then can you also explain to us why Republicans are the ones embracing these confederate statutes, flags and the KKK?


No you didn't. You visited the Dachau Concentration Camp Memorial Site which condemns nazism and teaches visitors the horrors that happened and why it was/is wrong.
This is unlike our situation of using taxpayers money to place statutes of American traitors onto taxpayer funded government property with no attempt at educating but instead depicting the confederates in a proud light.


Your whining about "targeting the white population" is patently false.
They have listed the Nation Of Islam (a black and muslim/islam group) as a hate group, New Black Panther Party (a black and anti-semitic group) as a hate group and have a whole file on the Black Separatist ideology for being anti-white among other things.
What you really meant is that you don't like when the SPLC speaks up against nazism.


Speaking out against nazism is not an SJW issue.

Using violence isn't free speech. Assaulting people you don't agree with isn't free speech. Attacking the police isn't free speech. Swinging clubs and bats at people who differing views than you isn't free speech. Let me know when my point starts to sink in.

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

Excuse me?

RT is the best news site world wide.

Nothing else is close

I would fight a SWAT team with a butter knife before I would watch any TV "news" produced in the USA.

Everything, and i mean everything labeled "news" in the USA is FAKE News government propaganda designed to brainwash the American people in the interests of globalists who are systematically robbing the American people of their wealth as they have been for the past four decades.

Found the crazy conspiracy guy!

It's a fact that RT is owned and run by support from the Kremlin. You're being spoon fed Russian propaganda and loving it. The fact they're run by such a group is public knowledge, not some conspiracy as you claim with your fake news silliness.

 

[JosephAW]

Why just that one organization? Why not other organization that defend people of differing opinions?

 

[supercoolmanchu]

Found the crazy conspiracy guy!

It's a fact that RT is owned and run by support from the Kremlin. You're being spoon fed Russian propaganda and loving it. The fact they're run by such a group is public knowledge, not some conspiracy as you claim with your fake news silliness.

True. But the each have their own spin, there are plenty who feel the same about MSNBC or the NYT or Brietbart or whatever they call news up in Canada. You gotta mix all the nuts into one big bowl, then add salt.

 

[R.Perez]

Gotta love the spin zone right-wingers create. There's a group that identifies hate groups? Call them a hate group!

Find one nutty guy marginally associated with a group we don't like, brand the entire group based on that one persons behavior (e.g. right-wingers and BLM).

I am particularly suspicious of anyone that repeats talking points verbatim. Note that there is no such thing as the "alt-left" (there is a radical left comprised primarily of anti-capitalists such as socialists, communists and anarchists). And yet, a few people on Faux News use the term and so does their bat-**** president and the term somehow finds its way to PRSI. How interesting...

 

[ThisIsNotMe]

Tim Cook quoting MLK who was very much anti-homosexual, anti-homosexual marriage, and a believer in homosexual conversion therapy in an open letter condemning statues from the era of slavery while enslaving +1 million people in China.

 

[Gutwrench]

This is excellent news. I planned on donating to *a* cause over all of this but beyond that didn’t know about any organisations as I’m not American. So this makes it much easier for me! Thanks Apple.

Unfortunately your free gifts (Nutrilite Gluten Free Daily, Amway Legacy Kitchen Cleaner, or the amazing Shamwow) are not available to addresses outside the United States. We regret any misunderstanding.

 

[Naaaaak]

Like so many of you, equality is at the core of my beliefs and values. The events of the past several days have been deeply troubling for me, and I've heard from many people at Apple who are saddened, outraged or confused

Antifa Alt-Left communists violently beat anyone they disagree with. The basis of equality starts with the recognition of human rights, especially now, the right to free speech. The SPLC (along with the "pepe is racist" declaring ADL) is a notoriously awful "charity" when it comes to free speech. Well done Tim.
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Tim Cook quoting MLK who was very much anti-homosexual, anti-homosexual marriage, and a believer in homosexual conversion therapy in an open letter condemning statues from the era of slavery while enslaving +1 million people in China.

Tim is a virtue signaling along with the rest of SJW-Valley. You can't confront people like that with facts, they'll just ignore them and call you racist.

 

[ILikeAllOS]

There's a difference between going after real neo-nazis (which people think they're doing) and going after anyone who's conservative or believes the right to freedom of speech belongs to everyone, including despicable people with hateful views (what people are actually doing). When you think you're "bashing the fash" you're actually just bashing people who believe in the fundamental values the U.S was founded on.

Nope, I'm "bashing" the Traditionalist Worker Party and the Traditionalist Youth Network, two NeoNazi groups who came to Charlottesville with nazi insignia while chanting "Jews will not replace us" and spouting their white supremacist views.
Not sorry if you're offended by that but many of us have no problem taking a stand against nazism.

 

[Thunderbird]

Found the crazy conspiracy guy!

It's a fact that RT is owned and run by support from the Kremlin. You're being spoon fed Russian propaganda and loving it. The fact they're run by such a group is public knowledge, not some conspiracy as you claim with your fake news silliness.

You're the conspiracy guy if you actually think RT is propaganda and US media isn't.
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Antifa Alt-Left communists violently beat anyone they disagree with.

Source please.