Forgive me if I’m wrong. But the iPhone 12 charges at a maximum of 12W, and the only USB C power adaptor Apple sells is 20w. Is it wise to use it, especially long term?
Why should I be given an adaptor because you need one? That's some wasteful logic.
Wouldn't call it wasteful, what's wasteful though is your attempt in trying to persuade us with your "I love the environment" statements without grasping the basics of logistics, production lines and true impacts of all other things involved that are directly related to environment, it's protection, conservation, etc ... but I don't have the crayons with today so I kindly go back to my question, how many adaptors do you think I have?Why should I be given an adaptor because you need one? That's some wasteful logic.
This is very annoying... sure I have some USB A chargers, but they are all being used in different areas of my house/office and are not in the garbage. Now I will need to buy new chargers.
If this were all about the environment, Apple would have either provided a voucher for a free adapter for those who actually needed one, to limit the distribution, or would have kept the included cable as USB A so I could practically recycle my old chargers. What's really going to happen is the new cable will get tossed in a drawer in my case.
Another question, so do you have to use the USB-C cable? Can't you just take your current iPhone cable and plug it into your current power adapter and charge that way? Yes it may be considerably slower.
so a $700-$1,500 phone isn't a first world problem in itself? lol
that's fine, but have the option of getting one free if you need one. to add $19 on top of your phone purchase is ridiculous.
I’m sorry but what powers your wireless charger anyway?
Always with the excuses for Apple's consumer-hostile decisions aren't you? Are you in capable of ever admitting when Apple is in the wrong?Not a bad price for an Apple-designed product with supervised manufacturing. And with loads of regulatory safety approvals. I'll buy that charger before any others.
Getting it for free is almost as bad as putting it in the box from the start. You need to not incentive users to demand every piece they don’t necessarily need.
Amazon has been doing this successfully with the kindle products for years, so it’s nice to see this taking a wider stance finally.
Getting it for free is almost as bad as putting it in the box from the start. You need to not incentive users to demand every piece they don’t necessarily need.
Amazon has been doing this successfully with the kindle products for years, so it’s nice to see this taking a wider stance finally.
But they are using an incentive for users to want/get a new brick by including a type-c to lightning cable. Yes doing this the way they have is better for the environment but it’s also a ploy to get people to buy a new brick or a MagSafe charger. Clever marketing to be fair
Guess that makes Garmin just as crappy as Apple to do the same thing to their customers too then huh? Certainly doesn't make it ok.Garmin makes devices that cost as much as a phone, and they don't include the charging brick. If you're spending $1500 on a phone, you're probably an adult who can figure out how to best satisfy your charging needs. No point in giving others something they don't need just because some people might want the charger. It's wasteful and there's a vibrant market for chargers better than what Apple offers anyway, let the user choose what works best for them.
Wouldn't call it wasteful, what's wasteful though is your attempt in trying to persuade us with your "I love the environment" statements without grasping the basics of logistics, production lines and true impacts of all other things involved that are directly related to environment, it's protection, conservation, etc ... but I don't have the crayons with today so I kindly go back to my question, how many adaptors do you think I have?
To think it’s okay is simply strange ...That’s not a matching analogy. Most people can get their new iPhone to work with their existing hardware chargers they already own.
Lame...Or you can think of it as the iPhone costing $19 less than it otherwise would.
There’s always two sides to every coin.
Right. If Apple started including a USB-C charger with the iPhone X...a lot more people would have an extra (relevant) charger. It is Apple’s fault they’ve been cheap, and kept putting that 5W charger in the box.iPhone/ Mac/ iPad user here since 3G. Not because the devices are so "magic" but because the competition does such a lacklustre job.
A few points:
1. reducing e-waste. FALSE pretence. If Apple wanted to reduce e-waste they would have adhered long time ago to a standard connector, and having failed to do that with usb-b surely they could have implemented usb-c in all their devices. Likewise their chargers were always underpowered and overpriced. On the bonus note, after batterygate, using a "non-approved" charger may very well result in poor battery lifespan or whatever else they decide to "enhance" the user experience.
1a. removing the EarPods and introducing AirPods will produce even more waste, just imagine the complex manufacturing and rare materials going in the batteries and electronics, most ending in the garbage as they quickly degrade in 2-3 years or on the subway tracks…
2. reducing cost. FALSE. it is spelled reducing PROFIT. which is a big NO NO in Apple world; well within their right of course but please stop believing all the BS reasonings being fed to you by the shovel.
So, they are not reducing waste! They are adamant at maintaining profits high. One charging standard and cable would have reduced waste.
Now more people will buy 3rd party chargers that are produced with less efficiency and more waste, then they will find out that the chargers don’t work well, or they breakdown and will reach the landfill as well.
How are the hundred of millions of 5W (packed until recently) chargers still reasonably useful in 2020 to charge a new generation iPhone?
And for all of the environment defenders in here, please explain to me why I all of a sudden have a multitude of usb-c chargers for my iPhone. I find it curious that every single iPhone ever has had a standard USB-A connection. And then magically, the year Apple removes the charging brick, they include a usb-c charging cable?
Can someone please explain that to me? Where are all of these usb-c iPhone chargers Apple claims we all have lying around. They never in their history Included one for the iPhone.
Ohhhhhh, its so people will purchase the $19 usb-c brick because they’ll need it when they walk out of the store.
Where are my enviro people who can explain. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
*There areOr you can think of it as the iPhone costing $19 less than it otherwise would.
There’s always two sides to every coin.