No, because this feature has been active since iOS 12.1.
Plenty of unauthorized repair shops have been replacing displays since that period. Replacing a display requires disconnecting battery power.
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Apple on iPhone Battery Locking Issue: We Want to Make Sure Battery Replacement is Done Properly
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No, because this feature has been active since iOS 12.1.
Plenty of unauthorized repair shops have been replacing displays since that period. Replacing a display requires disconnecting battery power.
Looks like you've made a claim. Source?
Source for your claim battery packs have some sort of encryption.
So you say batteries can combust during repair (I agree, they can), but you expect them to just sell them off the shelf to anyone who wants one?
I provided one previously. The manufacturing errors that led to the biggest electronics disaster in history, the recall of the Note 7. Plus I fly FPV racing drones and have gone through literally 100+ lithium batteries. There's a wide range in quality/capacity with many not even living up to the labeling applied to them.
Are you seriously going to try and claim that ALL lithium batteries from ALL manufactures are 100% equal in build quality? A yes or no will suffice.
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Provide me the TI datasheet. Or you can provide your summary of it, since you've obviously read it yourself.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/bq27546-g1.pdf
"The bq27546-G1 features integrated support for secure battery pack authentication, using the SHA-1/HMAC authentication algorithm."
They lose either way, either headlines of exploding phones or headlines of walled gardens ♂️
You’d think the operative word “right” in “right to repair” would make this a simple issue. People should have the right to repair their devices, even if they end up harming themselves in the process.
You “could” get yourself killed if you’re under a car repairing it and it rolls off the jack stands and crushes you, for example.
You could cut yourself when peeling potatoes.
You can seriously burn yourself with scalding hot water if you slip and fall while carrying a pot of boiling water to the kitchen sink to drain the pasta.
Yet, everyone is still allowed to:
- Repair their own vehicle,
- peel their own vegetables, and
- cook their own pasta.
This is a very simple issue. I’m somewhat amazed to see people here actually siding with Apple on this.
You “could” get yourself killed if you’re under a car repairing it and it rolls off the jack stands and crushes you, for example.
You could cut yourself when peeling potatoes.
You can seriously burn yourself with scalding hot water if you slip and fall while carrying a pot of boiling water to the kitchen sink to drain the pasta.
Yet, everyone is still allowed to:
- Repair their own vehicle,
- peel their own vegetables, and
- cook their own pasta.
This is a very simple issue. I’m somewhat amazed to see people here actually siding with Apple on this.
Apple has created an ecosystem designed so that Apple can control everything, leaving no trust in the consumer to decide for themselves
It is kind of hard to fault Apple here. If phones start exploding or starting on fire the headline will read "iPhone's exploding!" No one will care that the faulty 3rd party battery was the culprit. I can see why people are upset that Apple is locking some things down, but that's the way it goes. It's not like it's crazy expensive to have Apple replace the battery and you know that if something goes wrong you'll be covered.
Of all the "scandals" in Apple history, this is the one I have the most problem taking seriously.
If you want battery health information, get a real battery installed by Apple.
If you want a cheap battery replacement, go for it. Just don't expect battery health information.
It's not like the phone is refusing to let you unlock it, make a phone call, or even occasionally nagging you. Suck it up.
If you want battery health information, get a real battery installed by Apple.
If you want a cheap battery replacement, go for it. Just don't expect battery health information.
It's not like the phone is refusing to let you unlock it, make a phone call, or even occasionally nagging you. Suck it up.
It's not so much that I'm siding with Apple, just that I'm pointing out this isn't a big deal. The phone still works fine, it's just the battery diagnostics that fail because Apple has no idea what the heck you put in the phone. The data from battery diagnostics will be meaningless.
News to me, as you've failed to demonstrate that.
They can, but they choose not to.
Again, they choose not to.
As I said earlier elsewhere, battery "quality" in terms of its charge capacity is near-nonexistent at this point. There are different manufacturing processes, but they don't change battery chemistry. Strangely, though, they feel just fine showing a battery percentage for those purportedly crappy knockoff batteries.
I don't remember too many lawsuits or issues ~8 years ago when nearly every laptop, phone, and electronic device came with replaceable lithium batteries.
Also, nobody has sued iFixIt yet, and they've been selling exactly such batteries for a long time now. And it's not like they're too small to sue, iFixIt is a $20M+ company. If there was something to sue over, it would have happened by now.
We must protect Mother Apple's craven push for Services revenue.
I’m talking about the ones siding with apple because “people shouldn’t be able to remove their batteries because they could puncture them and burn themselves and cause it to catch on fire.”
This is so nonsensical that I can't tell if it's trolling. As long as you're not stepping on the battery or biting it or poking at it with pointy things, it'll be fine.
Bullcrap. Apple knows it’s not difficult for someone to properly replace the battery. They’re not fooling anyone. They just want more $$$. But Apple, ticking off your customers is no way to get it! We’re not foolish!
I say this as someone who's pretty invested in the Apple ecosystem, however...
This is such disingenuous bulls**t. If customer safety was their first concern their prices would be the same or less than 3rd party repairers (assuming genuine parts are used), not higher. By all means disable the health feature with a neutral message like, "Health feature disabled. Please use a genuine Apple battery to access this feature." But scaring people with a, "service required" message, even if a genuine Apple battery is used, is totally out of line here and a pretty transparent attempt at gaining extra business.
This is such disingenuous bulls**t. If customer safety was their first concern their prices would be the same or less than 3rd party repairers (assuming genuine parts are used), not higher. By all means disable the health feature with a neutral message like, "Health feature disabled. Please use a genuine Apple battery to access this feature." But scaring people with a, "service required" message, even if a genuine Apple battery is used, is totally out of line here and a pretty transparent attempt at gaining extra business.
I think it's more that people are pointing out how much of a non-issue this is. If you want to see battery diagnostic information you get your battery replaced through Apple. If you don't care about diagnostic information (hint: a majority of the population doesn't even know this exists.)
It's $69 to get your battery replaced with Apple. Through ifixit the same battery costs $89 just for parts. I don't see why anyone wouldn't go through Apple....