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Apple on iPhone Battery Locking Issue: We Want to Make Sure Battery Replacement is Done Properly
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Source for this? I expect you have none. And I'm still waiting for your answer to my previous question about whether you think ALL lithium batteries are similar in quality.
I've installed iFixit's after-market batteries on two iPhone 6s. We still get "low power" warnings. However, neither of us uses the low power mode feature, so I can't say.
Why would you put used parts in your phone?
People spend upwards of $800 on their phone, but somehow can’t afford to have a genuine battery replaced correctly? $79 plus battery is too much? But you can spend over $800 on a new phone?
You all remind me of BMW owners who complain when their cheap parts fail or don’t operate as factory. Or use shady mechanics because “it’s too expensive... I can only afford to floss, not maintain“
I won't answer it because you demanded a yes/no on something that requires nuance.
Yes, and Apple and other device makers get sued for exploding batteries all the time. They often settle. You think Apple is going to go ahead and make the lawsuit situation worse by selling "naked" batteries that aren't in an enclosure and telling people to go ahead and open your phone and tear out the old battery and put a new one in? Yeah, no liability there at all...
For the record, the "thin aluminum/steel/glass enclosures" will help to protect the battery from damage or impact that might initiate some kind of uncontrolled combustion.
Love how they call it "unauthorised" repairs. As if Apple should be the only ones able to repair anything at their ridiculous prices through their "Idiot Bar".
It's about killing the second hand phone market and repair industry.
Phones with perfectly working parts can no longer be salvaged. There's an entire industry that buys back old iPhones or accepts trade-ins. You can no longer swap a battery from a genuine working device with a broken display without a scary warning.
Funny how Apple is one of very few device makers who seem to be afraid of getting sued for selling batteries, since Samsung and LG and others do it. I'm sure if it posed a serious risk to those businesses, they'd stop.
Either way, under this line of argument, Apple's money-hungry.
You've backed yourself into a corner by stating something that is 100% factually incorrect, and now you're faced with the choice of digging yourself an even deeper hole trying to defend your position or simply admitting you were wrong.
There's a HUGE difference in quality of lithium batteries from manufacturers. Basic fact.
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It's about killing the theft of iPhones by making the parts of those iPhones useless for resale.
Personally, I'm siding with common sense and rationality. This does not prevent anyone from having a non-approved battery replacement. It simply highlights to the user that it has been done. If I bought a used iPhone I'd like to be made aware if the battery was supplied and fitted by some bloke on a market stall. Those who are prepared to have it done to their own phone are unlikely to give a hoot either way. This is just people being offended because it's an excuse to be offended by something.
In my opinion
It's easy to become an authorized repair facility for Apple. The reason these shops don't want to go that route is pure greed. They want to be able to source their own third-party batteries (or other components) at the lowest possible cost to maximize their profits. Having to follow Apple procedures/quality control cuts into their profits.
Unless counterfeit batteries have become sophisticated enough to appear as though they are legitimate Apple OEM batteries and are being sold as such, when they are in fact not, but that now pose a legal and safety hazard to both Apple and the end-user.
Also, I suppose it is possible that whatever “fool proof” way Apple though it had in the past has been circumvented or leaked due to industrial espionage that has not been disclosed.
I would remind users of the balata they ripoff vehicles that exist in China that have caused headaches for legitimate manufacturers trying to break into that market only to see their processes stolen and replicated by State Owned companies.
WOW. That's like a huge [CENSORED] [CENSORED] to your customers. As if Apple wasn't making enough money already, now they openly admit to limiting customer's options for repair to Apple's option. Which usually costs more. Whatever happened to Apple...? Maybe we should just hope for a new revolution.
Samsung and LG sell batteries for their phones that have user replaceable batteries. These are batteries in a plastic or more durable rigid casing, reducing the risk of puncture or other damage. Apple's batteries and "non-user replaceable" batteries on newer Samsung phones (I'm not sure about LGs phones) are essentially naked lithium cells with a very thin wrapping. Neither Samsung nor LG sell these batteries either through themselves or other retailers directly as far as I can determine.
Actually, you asked a question regarding "build quality" which, at least in my opinion, has nothing to do with battery chemistry, which is what I've been talking about this whole time.
Of course build quality varies between manufacturers because different manufacturers may use different processes. But at the end of the day, the battery's still using lithium-ion battery cells. Is there some breakthrough in cells for lithium-ion batteries of which I'm not aware?
The argument that it does not impact a persons use of a phone is a half truth. An argument can, and will likely be made that displaying and monitoring battery usage/health has been advertised as a feature of iOS and thereby a feature of the phone. Limiting this “feature” to only verified repairs is effectively limiting the usefulness of the device. I understand Apple’s underlying reasoning, but I also agree that we as owners of these devices should have the right to repair them without unreasonable limitations. I suppose determining what is considered reasonable will be the job of a court if this ends up there.
I personally think good for them. They've even said it does not affect the use of the phone, they just won't give the thumbs up to the repair if it hasn't been done by someone they approve.
Imagine a dozen or so substandard unauthorised batteries explode while in use, the news reports would be full of 'iPhone danger...iPhones explode" with little mention of the £6 battery repaired by some random guy at a stall in a shopping centre who can barely wire a plug.
I do think the repairs can be expensive, but £45 for an iPhone 7 battery replacement by Apple themselves is a small price to pay for peace of mind IMO.
Imagine a dozen or so substandard unauthorised batteries explode while in use, the news reports would be full of 'iPhone danger...iPhones explode" with little mention of the £6 battery repaired by some random guy at a stall in a shopping centre who can barely wire a plug.
I do think the repairs can be expensive, but £45 for an iPhone 7 battery replacement by Apple themselves is a small price to pay for peace of mind IMO.
I agree. I also like this because if I bought a used iPhone, I can check this, and it can be a red flag. I wouldn't want to spend a lot of money on a used phone if it wasn't fixed right. If I am keeping the phone and use a 3rd party place to swap the batter, what's the big deal?
Are you joking? Or trolling?
That is the worst analogy I’ve ever heard!
People aren’t complaining that “cheap” parts are failing, does every BMW owner have to buy genuine BMW tyres? People have the right to make a quality/cost analyst and shouldn’t be treated like children.
True to all of the above.
But then many here would not have any faux aggrandizing outrage to muster up and release.