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The focus is iOS 5 - the software. The emphasis has never been on hardware. iOS 5 and iCloud are too big to be overshadowed by a new hardware design. Apple expects iOS 5 and iCloud to sell the phone... not the hardware.

Come on! I honest believe Apple this time around has to deliver on the hardware too. Lets be honest, all Apple purchases I had made, the majority of my reasons are based on hardware.
 
So, if it's the same form factor (which I like), I wonder why they had trouble making it. The manufacturers said something about it being thin and they had trouble cramming all that stuff in there.

So, I'm guessing it may be a bit thinner at least.
 
It's funny to hear newbies to the Apple world act all shocked and keep saying Apple will surprise. Apple has almost never surprised for the past ten years. They always let us down. The focus is iOS 5 - the software. The emphasis has never been on hardware. iOS 5 and iCloud are too big to be overshadowed by a new hardware design. Apple expects iOS 5 and iCloud to sell the phone... not the hardware.

You're so right!
 
I will say what I have said before:

Apple has never radically redesigned the iPhone every year. The iPhone 4 is a fantastic design and there is absolutely no reason for you all to feel that you're owed a new design.

Don't fix what isn't broken.
 
the new iPhone will come in an option of 3 screen sizes: 3.5" 3.7" and 4.0"

4 cell technologies: CDMA, GSM, HSPA+, or LTE

4 capacities: 8gb 16gb 32gb and 64gb

2 external designs: iPhone 4 design or wedge shapes tapered iPhone 5

and 2 colors: white and black

3 x 4 x 4 x 2 x 2 = 192

The only possibility I see is that there will be 192 new iPhones!
 
re another nail in sexy ip5 coffin

1) heavy load on mr cooks shoulder if he just reveals an ip4s revision thingy -though i love the guy - sorta feel sorry for him he has to do the dirty work for this
2) the ip4s thingy will sell well - though not crazy
3) ok so more nails in the sexy ip5 coffin but one more nail left until oct 4 official announcement
4) i would play defensive tactical short term stategy on aapl stock trading
5) a miricle if steve jobs makes an apprearance and says "oh and one more thing..." - then whips out the sexy ip5 - game over
 
I think that there will be the Iphone 4s and the Iphone 5 but another possibility would be that there will be the Iphone 4s and an Retina Ipad 3 with a similar size like the Kindle Fire.

So as you can talk with the Iphone the screen is not that important and if you want to surf or organzize when outside or at home you can use your Retina Ipad 3...
 
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This could turn out to be some epic trolling if Apple are screwing with us.

Kudos to them if it is! :D
 
It's been reported and I believe that the 4s and 5 will be the only phones to support this new amazing voice recognition system.

Everybody who is so certain there will only be a 4s.... back of the line please so I can be one of the first to pick up my iPhone 5!
 
Im thinking no redesign for the simple fact that the phone would need to be redesigned again for LTE in 2012. It makes no sense for Apple to change the exterior of the phone a year before LTE.

I am not happy about this, but that is life. Ill still get the 4S although I am very close to finally leaving Apple for a year until the iPhone LTE is released.
 
I will say what I have said before:

Apple has never radically redesigned the iPhone every year. The iPhone 4 is a fantastic design and there is absolutely no reason for you all to feel that you're owed a new design.

Don't fix what isn't broken.

I agree with most of what you said, but I hate the quote "don't fix what isn't broken"
 
Ugh... how many times do we have to go through this?

Step 1) Apple release new product.
Step 2) People realise it is not what they wanted.
Step 3) Everyone complains.
Step 4) Everyone suddenly loves it and all is forgiven.
Step 5) Return to Step 1

this totally lol. people are expecting EVERYTHING and ALL haha. so what it's been an extra 4 months. these people QQ now, by xmas most will have it lol
 
IMHO. This confirms that there is an iPhone 4S. When scrubbing the iTunes beta release someone messed up and only removed the iPhone 5 data. They just forgot to scrub the 4S data.

Radio Shack doesn't get any more data than we do. They are putting place holders in their inventory system for the phone they think will be released. They see the same rumors as we do. The only difference is they get information from their Chinese accessories manufacturers.
 
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Illumination said:
I will say what I have said before:

Apple has never radically redesigned the iPhone every year. The iPhone 4 is a fantastic design and there is absolutely no reason for you all to feel that you're owed a new design.

Don't fix what isn't broken.

Lol you dont need to break it by changing the design.
 
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Major fail. Apple quite often disappoint. Look at the iPad2, 3GS etc all really poor upgrades.

The Nexus Prime is gonna defecate all over the 4GS.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't care about the new hardware? I'm totally satisfied with my iPhone 4 and don't have any reason to upgrade whatsoever. I'm just dying to get my hands on iOS 5.

I understand the desire for new hardware, but you're right, the iPhone 4 is still an excellent phone after all this time, and the sales numbers prove it. People are still buying them by the boatload (90%+ of potential iPhone buyers are not reading MacRumors and agonizing over every blurry photo of a rubber Chinese case design).

Whether there's an iPhone 5 on Tuesday or only a 4S, Apple will prove once again that it's the software that really matters. iOS5 is the big story and those of you who think iCloud is not a big deal had better think bigger. Let me ask you this, would you rather have an iPhone 5 running iOS 1, or an original iPhone running iOS 5 (assuming it could run it). I'll take iOS 5.

Now yeah, of course we all want it all. Sure I want a sexy new futuristic iPhone 5, don't think I don't. But a souped up A5 powered iPhone 4 design running iOS 5 is not a bad thing, and would still beat any phone out there.
 
I believe half the time these leaks come out is just Apple marketing machine. They purposefully make multiple units and entries in iTunes. You don't think they know people will sniff though iTunes code to look for clues and create exactly what we are doing here. I think Apple will have an redesigned iPhone 5 and they are just feeding "propaganda" into the iPhone 4s camp and will just surprise everyone. This is what creates hype and we the people love them for it.

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Apple has seemingly outed the "iPhone 4S" name in the latest iTunes beta released Friday, according to this screenshot posted by 9to5Mac.

The screenshot shows specific mention of the "iPhone 4S" using the same image icon as the iPhone 4 CDMA. This suggests that the new iPhone will be called the iPhone 4S and will look identical to the Verizon iPhone 4:

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White CDMA iPhone 4 icon (left) vs. white GSM iPhone 4 icon (right)​
It's possible that the image is only a placeholder, but all previous parts evidence has suggested that the new iPhone 4S will look nearly identical to the current iPhone.

Apple is holding its media event on Tuesday, October 4th where the company is expected to launch the new iPhone.

Article Link: Apple Outs "iPhone 4S" Name in Latest iTunes Beta
 
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Could it be, that many of the people that rumored the latest iPhone, called it a 5 before knowing it's actual name, the 4S? I mean, it's quite plausible that they used it as a placeholder. They didn't know all the facts, no one other that apple does.
 
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Illumination said:
I will say what I have said before:

Apple has never radically redesigned the iPhone every year. The iPhone 4 is a fantastic design and there is absolutely no reason for you all to feel that you're owed a new design.

Don't fix what isn't broken.

What happens when a customer sees the new phone next to the old phone and they look the same and one is far cheaper? Hmm.. Well basically the average person would go for the cheaper one.
 
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