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Apple Plans to Debut New Apple TV in September With Touch-Based Remote, Full App Store

What I'm the most curious about is what the rules are for apps. Will they allow services that sell titles, like Vudu, that might compete with iTunes sales? Music services, like Spotify, that compete with Apple Music? How about Amazon Prime?

As these services get more and more popular, I just think they won't have a choice. If not, a platform agnostic box like Roku will remain the way to go no matter how sexy a new interface and remote might be.
 
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godslabrat said:
Agreed, but don't like the idea of it being touch-based. I don't want to have to look at it.
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You will look at the tv and use your thumb and see the selector move on the screen. You will be able to do all functions by feel and some by voice command. Imagine the current remote as a thin flat Magic Mouse. You never stare at you MM when you used it, you look at your screen.
 
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Same as many others, app store is nice but 4k support is the neccesity. It is what has stopped me buying an Apple to tv yet as they are really cheap for what they offer.

As for the remote the current one takes a moment to get used to but it is solid and ergonomic.
 
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Two new revolutionary flagship products in one year?

Hmm.

Also, if Apple can only do 'so many things' and not everything, when's the limit? What's the limit of how much they can communicate about their new products, before consumers are confused?

Mac
iPhone
iPad
Watch
TV
Music

... That all?

In all seriousness, a new TV would be great :)
 
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I'll be disappointed if I still have to buy a dvr box to use with an OTA antenna. At the very least, they need to offer a cloud dvr if the package includes basic channels like NBC. I really enjoy being able to rewind live tv and being able to watch a show I started to record but decided to watch just a little after it started so that I can FF past the commercials. My current cable bill is over $200 and I'm in limbo until I know what's going to happen with TV. As soon as I know, a lot of plans will go into motion at my house!
 
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The remotes could be the superseded iPod Touch - bundled spearaterly of course for those who don't need a surplus of iOS devlices in their home.
But, what's wrong with the original remote? Maybe stuff an accelerometer into that, ala Wii Remote, and make it backlit, but other than that, physical buttons still have their place.
 
laurim said:
I'll be disappointed if I still have to buy a dvr box to use with an OTA antenna. At the very least, they need to offer a cloud dvr if the package includes basic channels like NBC. I really enjoy being able to rewind live tv and being able to watch a show I started to record but decided to watch just a little after it started so that I can FF past the commercials. My current cable bill is over $200 and I'm in limbo until I know what's going to happen with TV. As soon as I know, a lot of plans will go into motion at my house!
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I've been using a Mediasonic Homeworx DVR specifically for use with an OTA antenna. $35 + USB drive. I love the ability to simply detach the drive, attach it to my Plex server and archive the shows that I want to keep.
 
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Meh about a touchpad remote. I use the iPhone remote app for XBMC without looking at it just fine. People will adjust. You just need to get your brain used to where things are, like people do with a keyboard and trackpad without looking at it.
 
sracer said:
I've been using a Mediasonic Homeworx DVR specifically for use with an OTA antenna. $35 + USB drive. I love the ability to simply detach the drive, attach it to my Plex server and archive the shows that I want to keep.
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I know these things exist. I have my eye on a Tablo system. Just don't want to have to buy/manage multiple devices when one could easily do it all. The TV is supposed to be the hub of my house. Do it!! Tired of farting around, running out of sources on my remote and hdmi inputs on my Onkyo receiver.
 
BrettApple said:
Poor developers these days. They've got apps to write for watches, TVs, phones, tablets, desktops, convertibles, fridges, and whatever else you want to stick an LCD on. Pretty incredible.
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It's incredible how many options a developer has these days. We just have to hope that we get quality apps and not a deluge of rinky dinky apps that do frivolous things. I'd like to see a native Plex app that has the approval of Apple, the work around can sometimes be buggy. I'm hoping this means the ability to play games without mirroring or even native games for the ATV.
 
TWSS37 said:
I still don't understand "cord cutters" who would sign up for a $30-$40 service. Presumably also with Netflix, Hulu, etc.
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For me it is not about saving a bundle on cable. If cable has what you like to view it is actually a good value. I prefer to not mess around with a DVR, outdated interface, and a million shows I prefer not to watch. I want one quality streaming system (currently have two because of content), buy the show seasons and other content I want, when I want to view them, and access on any of my devices, with essentially a single simple interface. Will I save money, maybe due to additional savings during slow times like summer months. However, saving is a bonus not a motivator for my viewing. The DVR cable bundles have not been missed at all. Happy campers we are.
 
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Nevaborn said:
app store is nice but 4k support is the neccesity.
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There are 100´s of millions of people that would benefit from an App Store and few handfull of people that would benefit from that 4K support right now. And even those few might get bored after watching all those 2-3? available 4K shows on Netflix.. And that might still be all they could watch that month because from what I understand most of the US is still living in 1998 when it comes to decent internet connections..

The App Store will make Apple billions of dollars, 4K will make a small group of rich people happy :)
 
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DotCom2 said:
Do you guys think it could work as a gaming console such as the Wii for kids?
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The hardware sure is a lot better, but iOS games are a bit too focused on InAppPurcases and repetitive tasks..
That might change thou with hardware that the user is supposed to spend a few hours on every time rather than just 2 min while waiting for the buss/train/whatever.. :)
 
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So this is going to rock native apps on the apple tv finally air video hd with out having to loop it through a device.

The streaming service is a great idea and i think it is actually what people want. The issue is data caps. I have said it many times here on the old MR but until apple or google decided to lay down arms and fight the real enemy the gatekeepers we shall all suffer. I know google fiber and i live in a city that is just about to get it. The issue is it is not here yet and will take years to make an impact. I just want google to apple to buy Comcast and end this once and for all.
 
bbeagle said:
That would be EXTREMELY cheap, and is not the norm. 'Lifeline' cable around here where you JUST get local channels is $29. Then you get a leasing fee for the cable box of $8 or if you want a DVR it's $15 more. Then add taxes, and 3 rooms, that comes to about $75.

For a one TV household, you can get it down to $45 or so, but that's just for local channels you can get with an antenna anyways. To get packages with the channels you want, it's over $100 minimum
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Exactly. Sure, you can get "cable" for $25-30. Unfortunately it's not anything you actually want to watch. I was paying upwards of $150 to get the stations I want and DVR coverage for two TVs. I cut the cord, but it isn't 100% what we need. We are patching together a number of services which is a pain to manage on a daily basis.

If Apple can compile an on-demand, ad-free style selection of channels that don't suck (AMC, TNT, TBS, ESPN, History, Local stations, etc.) I would happily pay $30-40. I could probably drop Hulu if Apple's coverage is sufficient.

There is no such thing as truly "cutting the cable" - you're always on the hook for an internet connection. I just refuse to pay the cable company for garbage programming I don't want.
 
mazz0 said:
They are? Will you buy me one then? They still look incredibly expensive to me.
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Your silly argument aside, 4K TVs carry very small premium over 1080p TVs. Walk into Costco and you will see 43" 4K TVs under $600. Put another way, 4K TVs carry about $200-300 premium over similar 1080p model. While $200-300 may not be a chump change, it is not a huge sum for a product that has very long expected lifespan.
 
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