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ksz said:
Ouch, 3000 euros? From yesterday's close that would be US$3621. Are you including the dreaded VAT?

actually, I meant $ not €. Euro prices will be even more expensive probably (like € 3100, bastards!)
 
winmacguy said:
Crikey! I started using the "quote" button a while back. :cool: I just added my pic tonight as well :p after having it empty since I started posting here :rolleyes:
How many posts do you need to be able to have an avatar anyway? I sent an email to the webmaster but never got a reply…
 
tech4all said:
This is good news. I would like to get a Powerbook (and money to :() Just can't decide if I should wait for Intel's or get the supposedly last PowerPC Powerbook since almost all the bugs will be worked out of them as opposed to a Rev. A Intel.
AppleInsider is suggesting that the reason we haven't seen updates until now is because of the bugs that haven't been ironed out; mainly due to the good engineers working on the Intel transition while the bunnies try to hack together the last PowerPC PB's. The article also suggests the updated PB's might not even see a processor upgrade to the 7448. Given Freescale's previous track record (as Motorola) this is hardly surprising. Another cruel PowerBook joke inflicted on the Apple stalwarts.

So where are you going to spend your money, on the last PowerPC PB that the bunnies have been working on or the new Intel PB that the brightest minds have been applied to?

Personally I was starting to get enthusiastic about this update because my TiBook is aging but I swore I wouldn't buy another PB until the FSB was uncrippled. Guess I'm waiting for the Intel PB and probably the rev. B unless Apple pulls something really compelling out of the hat on Wednesday.
 
Tupring said:
How many posts do you need to be able to have an avatar anyway? I sent an email to the webmaster but never got a reply…
Oh, I guess it's 500… I might as well give up on it then, it's not worth it. I don't plan on spending all of my online time here, so I guess I won't have an avatar… 500 posts just to have a picture under your name is ridiculous!
 
mac-er said:
Finally, just maybe, the whining about PMs and PBs will end.
Umm, that's just not going to happen. If you find the whining annoying, perhaps you should rethink why you spend time on a PB thread. Let's face it, until Apple releases a decent Intel-based successor for the PB the whining will only increase. Plus a lot of the whining is absolutely valid critique and frustration at the lack of progress.

Given that laptops now make up the majority of Macs sold, I assume that the lack of quality chips from Motorola/Freescale also contributed to the switch to Intel.

I'm not sure how that works on the PM side, it sounds like the PMs are going to get some shiny new dual-core G5's, woot.
 
My prediction is that it'll be a huge anti-climax because it nearly always is ;)

The thing is we come on here and build up our expectations, and Apple bless 'em can't deliver the impossible. I'd be happy with decent speed bumps to the PMs and PBs, sensible pro-machine RAM allocation, HD screens on the PBs and PCI-E on the PMs. That's not too much to ask is it? Having said that, those announcements don't seem worthy of a special event so who knows?

I've read a lot of people saying that we won't see MacIntels because there's no software, but I think the Macs (not necessarily pro Macs) will come first, and the software will follow; maybe at another special event ;) I don't recall there being a lot of software for OSX when it was launched, or written for the PPC when they were introduced. Apple will need to be the catalyst for change.

I wouldn't be surprised to see an Intel eMac in the near future. It would be a piece of cake (relatively) to put an Intel chip and new motherboard in, and it would be cheap. Small developers would love it and Apple would have a small army of beta testers before switching the entire line.

Just my two pence.
 
StkhlmSyndrm23 said:
I'd much rather see Apple move from a relatively stellar dual core G4 arrangement on the PB to an even more stellar Intel processor, than to see a crippled, piece of garbage PB emerge at 1.7ghz and stay that way for the next several months. And so would consumers. I am hoping Freescale has something to show for themselves on Wed.
In New Zealand the Tui brewery has a fun advertising campaign (mostly). I can't help but think it applies here.

Freescale over-deliver? Yeah right.
 
Southernboy said:
My prediction is that it'll be a huge anti-climax because it nearly always is ;)

The thing is we come on here and build up our expectations, and Apple bless 'em can't deliver the impossible. ...
We can dream can't we? Seriously, though, the technology is available but certain Apple's suppliers who shall remain nameless (i.e. Freescale and IBM), have been the source of many disappointments. Steve wants to push the envelope, but now he has to push his under-performing suppliers aside and move on to where the action is. He allied himself with Intel for many good reasons: They have the scale, they have the technology, they have the drive, they have the focus.

Intel is not without fault (i.e. Pentium 4), but they have learned some good lessons recently and I have confidence in Paul Otellini, the new CEO. With Steve Jobs barking up their tree, let's hope Intel will keep the flame of innovation burning brightly.
 
Alright than!! Jheeeee.
Just sold my dual 2.7 two weeks ago thought there might be something faster soon!!!! ( Never fast enough :D ) Hope it's a real beast: 4-drive slot's, 1066mhz RAM bus, 4x PCI-E slot and a real graphics card for a change! And of-course a dual dualcore 2.5Ghz CPU with 1Ghz internal core to core bus and a 1.25Ghz external bus x2.
 
I think the outlook for new Powerbooks and Powermacs seems pretty good.

I've been waiting to buy a new Powermac for some time, but after the upgrade from 2.5GHz to 2.7GHz it just made me think that the upgrade was so weak, it wasn't worth me splashing my money on one, but if Apple release dual duals, I will buy one in an instant.
 
AtHomeBoy_2000 said:
Why would Apple try to take on Photoshop?

Because of the efficiency of Apple knowing their way around their own hardware.

Bet it will pee Adobe off, like Final Cut Pro did.
 
minimax said:
actually, I meant $ not €. Euro prices will be even more expensive probably (like € 3100, bastards!)
That would suck. The company I work for has an employee purchase plan with Apple so we get an 8% discount. Not much, but it covers the tax.
 
well you know what they say - there is no two without a three - i can't wait to watch the video cast - this is like the the lord of the rings only you don't have to wait three years to know everything - maybe this was supposed to have been released at paris but apple decided to do it this way - gotta love it :p :D
 
applesticker said:
well you know what they say - there is no two without a three - i can't wait to watch the video cast - this is like the the lord of the rings only you don't have to wait three years to know everything - maybe this was supposed to have been released at paris but apple decided to do it this way - gotta love it :p :D

... will there be a video cast?? Same like Oct 12th a few hours after the event at apples website??
 
Mitch1984 said:
Because of the efficiency of Apple knowing their way around their own hardware.

Bet it will pee Adobe off, like Final Cut Pro did.
I don't think knowing one's own hardware is enough to compete against the deep feature set of Photoshop. We are talking more than just painting pixels and moving around layers. Photoshop is deep, deep, deep. It would take Apple an Herculean effort to get people to move away from their competitor's software that is the cornerstone of their livelihood.

As for FCP, it's from the same engineering team that created Premiere. Consider FCP as Premiere 2.0. Premiere was such a lame duck of an editing program, any competing video editing app would have trounced it easily.
 
Lacero said:
I don't think knowing one's own hardware is enough to compete against the deep feature set of Photoshop. We are talking more than just painting pixels and moving around layers. Photoshop is deep, deep, deep. It would take Apple an Herculean effort to get people to move away from their competitor's software that is the cornerstone of their livelihood.

Yeah, you're spot on. Adobe have refined their Photoshop (With tons of feedback from Photographers/illustrators/designers etc.) over many years, if (IF) Apple made a better version then people would be on it, wether they could is another matter, to get anywhere close they would have to develop it with the help of Adobe, i doubt that would happen.

Sorry if I'm going of track because i have not read anything in this thread but presume there is a rumour of Apple releasing a photoshop.

Diddnt work that well with pages did it :cool:
 
digitalbiker said:
No , it would be much better if we see a much improved G4 or G5 powerbook to last through the Intel growing pains and buy when plenty of software exists that can use the hardware.

G5 Powerbook?!? Have you been paying attention? Give up the meme dude! There will be NO G5 Powerbook, that's a big part of how we got into this Intel business in the first place.
 
ksz said:
That would suck. The company I work for has an employee purchase plan with Apple so we get an 8% discount. Not much, but it covers the tax.


why would that suck?

entrance point for the powermac would be lowered from 2000 to 1500 for a better computer, and for the current $ 3000 you'd get almost twice the GHz! But the PM needs a good :eek: to revitalize sales...
 
al3000 said:
Awesome!! This has to be it, new powerbooks!!


...Built in iSight would be good too.... :D

Yeah, but what will they do with the 12 inch that I am gonna buy?

I NEED Isight and Backlit Keyboard.
And Widescreen would be nice too, it need not to be HD though.
 
There will be Dothan MacIntels....

nagromme said:
And new laptop chips (Yonah) are coming from Intel early next year. Apple would want to wait for those at least.

~Shard~ said:
Apple is eyeing up the Yonah, and further down the road, the Merom, so we will not see any portable Intel Macs until 2006 for sure. :cool:
Apple is telling developers to program for Dothan-based systems....

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/1740048/

Maybe you'll see Yonah-based PBs released in January, along with Dothans in the iBook and MiniMac at the same time.

But Apple isn't waiting for Yonah across the board, and it certainly isn't waiting for Merom (although IMHO it would be a good idea to wait for Merom over the long term).

Technically, though, Apple could release Dothan-based systems today (or next Wed) - all the necessary chips for Dothan are available in high volumes.

I would find it conceivable that a MiniMacIntel could be out anytime. Many Mini users would be happy with just the native iLife suite, and (perhaps more important) it would give small developers an affordable MacIntel for developing and testing fat binaries.
 
maybe they'll wait for all 3 displays

~Shard~ said:
And plus, we know a new improved 20" display already exists since the iMac is using it. So "if" isn't even the question, it's "when" - when will Apple decide to release updated displays?
Apple might be concerned that an updated 20" would make the 23" and 30" look bad when they're side-by-side in the store.

They may wait until they can update all three to current technology.
 
ibook updates?

I know the event is market as a "Pro Event". Anyone figure there is much of a chance to update the ibook's? Even a superdrive would be nice.. as all Intel laptops at that price range easily have DVD double-layer included.
 
roy_dan said:
Who actually believes Apple will wait until June to unveil an Intel based mac? Any guarantees Steve makes will be conservative at best after the 3GHz fiasco. I expect them NLT January but next week would be welcome in my book. Of course there's that little problem of software availability...hmmm.

I think you're right. Mid 2006 had to have been a conservative estimate...I think there's good probability we see them winter or spring. The sooner the better since I'm already saving up for it...
 
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