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UMHurricanes34 said:
Did you guys read the article on Thinksecret about the CS3 details and Apple's Photo Pro. It was back in August, and I think it is VERY possible we will see it at this event. Should be a fun time

One thing I find with Photoshop is, although it may be stupidly powerful and the industry leader, for the non-hardcore users it can be non-intuitive, overwhelming and difficult to figure things out in at times. Perhaps Apple sees this as an opportunity and wants to try and make their own "user-friendly version" of Photoshop.
 
mpqtpie said:
Just a thought...

I read somewhere on this posting that someone was looking forward to PB G5s. But after just getting rid of my 12" PB G4 which was suffering from heat problems I'm not so sure a portable G5 is all that great. If people get third degree burns from the current PBs then what happens when you amp up the power even further?

If Apple finds a way to work out the heat issues I'll be all about the portable G5s but until then...


Someone else mentioned it (no link) but I agree that the PB will stay in G4 land (i'm hoping for dual core) because it is still a 32-bit arch. This way the transition to Intel in mid 2006 wont look like a step backwards. Then when the dual core 64 bit low power processors are out they will bump to 64bit.

here's wishing for dual core PB
 
pigwin32 said:
AppleInsider is suggesting that the reason we haven't seen updates until now is because of the bugs that haven't been ironed out; mainly due to the good engineers working on the Intel transition while the bunnies try to hack together the last PowerPC PB's. The article also suggests the updated PB's might not even see a processor upgrade to the 7448. Given Freescale's previous track record (as Motorola) this is hardly surprising. Another cruel PowerBook joke inflicted on the Apple stalwarts.

So where are you going to spend your money, on the last PowerPC PB that the bunnies have been working on or the new Intel PB that the brightest minds have been applied to?

Personally I was starting to get enthusiastic about this update because my TiBook is aging but I swore I wouldn't buy another PB until the FSB was uncrippled. Guess I'm waiting for the Intel PB and probably the rev. B unless Apple pulls something really compelling out of the hat on Wednesday.


I guess i just can't believe that Apple would throw away their last PPC models. These models have to keep us loyal apple fans for 6 months to a year. Personally a portable pro machine fits in much nicer to the whole apple mindset than the powermacs.

Apple used to be a high end computer manufacturer. OSX was the first part. Ipods allowed for pure monitary freedom. big finally PPC. then switch to intel.
 
lcde said:
Someone else mentioned it (no link) but I agree that the PB will stay in G4 land (i'm hoping for dual core) because it is still a 32-bit arch. This way the transition to Intel in mid 2006 wont look like a step backwards. Then when the dual core 64 bit low power processors are out they will bump to 64bit.

here's wishing for dual core PB

Wow. Some of us have some big expectations.

I thought my wish for the 7448 processor was realistic, but now the rumors are suggesting we're going to be stuck with the current processors. I don't think there is anyway we're going to see dual-core. That is way too out of the ballpark.
 
It clearly has to be this..

Mac mini Pro Edition
Dual Core G5 2.5 Gz
Liquid metal cooled, Silent operation
PCI-e radeon x800 128Mb
dual DVI outputs
TV tuner and Frontview + remote

and of course, to reduce costs, it will be shipped in the remaining boxes from the 1.42 Mac minis :)
 
powerbook911 said:
Wow. Some of us have some big expectations.

I thought my wish for the 7448 processor was realistic, but now the rumors are suggesting we're going to be stuck with the current processors. I don't think there is anyway we're going to see dual-core. That is way too out of the ballpark.


But do you really think that the PPC would go out with a whimper?

I agree I have HUGE expectations. But I'm also a very tech orientated person and i want to see the best specs possible for a pro machine. I really want to purchase the new powerbooks. I've been sitting on my 5 year old intel based notebook for 6 months now hoping to switch.

I guess is just see the dual core chip as a good rumor because it has DDR2 builtin, PCI-E built in and there would be no speed bump. Why would you put a processor with a slow bus speed in with DDR2? People who use pro machines know what bus speeds are and know what it means for the computers throughput.

I'm not worried about eatting my words after the special event i could care less. It would just be awesome to introduce apples first pro dual core lineup.
 
Probably. The dual core G4s still aren't ready.

G5s are still too hot for laptops...

So, only option is a single core G4, whether it'll be the new G4 is any ones guess. Even then I don't think the performance will be significantly faster than the current G4s but may be enough until Intel PBs are released.

lcde said:
But do you really think that the PPC would go out with a whimper?

I agree I have HUGE expectations. But I'm also a very tech orientated person and i want to see the best specs possible for a pro machine. I really want to purchase the new powerbooks. I've been sitting on my 5 year old intel based notebook for 6 months now hoping to switch.

I guess is just see the dual core chip as a good rumor because it has DDR2 builtin, PCI-E built in and there would be no speed bump. Why would you put a processor with a slow bus speed in with DDR2? People who use pro machines know what bus speeds are and know what it means for the computers throughput.

I'm not worried about eatting my words after the special event i could care less. It would just be awesome to introduce apples first pro dual core lineup.
 
Doubtful

~Shard~ said:
One thing I find with Photoshop is, although it may be stupidly powerful and the industry leader, for the non-hardcore users it can be non-intuitive, overwhelming and difficult to figure things out in at times. Perhaps Apple sees this as an opportunity and wants to try and make their own "user-friendly version" of Photoshop.

I think Apple doesn't want to piss off Adobe yet. I have my money on a pro version of iPhoto.

Although if the Express version was within my price range ($99), I'd buy it!
 
ThinkSecret

From ThinkSecret's August Archive:

"Apple Photo Pro?

Adobe recently solicited feedback from a number of its customers on the direction and potential features of Creative Suite 3. Sources who participated in an online survey passed along word last month that one page specifically compared Photoshop CS3 with what purported to be a yet unannounced Apple product, Photo Pro.

It's not clear whether the Apple Photo Pro identified in the survey is conjectural or based on Adobe's market intelligence. While Think Secret sources said they have heard rumblings of such an Apple product—which would more resemble iPhoto on steroids than a Photoshop competitor—none could confirm the product's development status.

The Adobe survey presented Photo Pro as a product geared towards photographers who handle numerous images regularly, offering extensive batch processing features and several automated features.

Among those listed were one-click importing with automatic backup to a second location, batch processing of metadata on import, rapid image browsing, support for multiple RAW settings per image, integrated high-quality camera raw processing, automated multi-page prints, and flexible contact sheet creation."

The product page was pulled later that day.
 
Finally we really go again. I keep my fingers crossed for
- new Powerbooks that are worth the wait and have at least the 7448
- new Powermacs with dualcore CPUs
- Photo Pro (whatever)

and one more thing:
I wish for FrontRow to be released for all Macs maybe together with a bluetooth remote.

Cheers
LaForge
 
CmdrLaForge said:
and one more thing:
I wish for FrontRow to be released for all Macs maybe together with a bluetooth remote.

Cheers
LaForge

I don't think that's gonna happen. But I do think that at least some configurations of PowerMac and Powerbook will get Front Row here.
 
922 said:
From ThinkSecret's August Archive:

"Apple Photo Pro?

Adobe recently solicited feedback from a number of its customers on the direction and potential features of Creative Suite 3. Sources who participated in an online survey passed along word last month that one page specifically compared Photoshop CS3 with what purported to be a yet unannounced Apple product, Photo Pro.

It's not clear whether the Apple Photo Pro identified in the survey is conjectural or based on Adobe's market intelligence. While Think Secret sources said they have heard rumblings of such an Apple product—which would more resemble iPhoto on steroids than a Photoshop competitor—none could confirm the product's development status.

The Adobe survey presented Photo Pro as a product geared towards photographers who handle numerous images regularly, offering extensive batch processing features and several automated features.

Among those listed were one-click importing with automatic backup to a second location, batch processing of metadata on import, rapid image browsing, support for multiple RAW settings per image, integrated high-quality camera raw processing, automated multi-page prints, and flexible contact sheet creation."

The product page was pulled later that day.

That article "could" explain a strategy by Apple of moving one of it's PB's to Intel on the 19th..

Just think.One person here said the Mactel's would be useless without Photoshop.If Photoshop isn't ready to run on the Intel platform without Rosetta one could use the new Photo Pro app from Apple which would run natively on Intel.

So we'd have some nice "pro" apps ready to go on a new Mactel..
 
922 said:
I think Apple doesn't want to piss off Adobe yet. I have my money on a pro version of iPhoto.

Too late for that :D Adobe is the one that pissed off apple in the first place, when they refused to make an OSX version of Premiere, thats when apple decided to introduce FinalCut. I have read this in an old interview somewere but i don't remember where. So it makes perfect sense for apple to introduce a PS competitor. FinalCut and Motion are already lightyears ahead of their competition.

I have been using Photoshop since version 1 and it's like its built-in in me, but Adobe has no intention of using CoreImage or any other technologies that come with OS X. But if we see PhotoPro doing the same as Photoshop, but at a fraction of the time or even realtime am retiring PS in no time :D
 
Peace said:
That article "could" explain a strategy by Apple of moving one of it's PB's to Intel on the 19th..

Just think.One person here said the Mactel's would be useless without Photoshop.If Photoshop isn't ready to run on the Intel platform without Rosetta one could use the new Photo Pro app from Apple which would run natively on Intel.

So we'd have some nice "pro" apps ready to go on a new Mactel..

Ummmmmm... no offense, but did you read that. It's iPhoto on steroids, NOT A PHOTOSHOP COMPETITOR (according to TS).

Your point is valid though. I'll bet whatever Photo Pro turns out to be is a universal app.
 
Back when the wind tunnel MDD Powermacs were introduced, Apple gave away a copy of Adobe InDesign software with purchase. More recently, Apple also gave away Final Cut Pro with purchase. I hope they continue the trend by including a copy of Photoshop CS2 to promote whatever hardware they announce on Wednesday. This makes even more sense as it would help placate Adobe should Apple announce their own professional photo app.
 
Whyren said:
That'd be nice, but I don't think we'll see that until at least after Christmas...after all, that's a unique feature for the iMac right now.

Maybe not the Power Mac, but it could be a nice "upsell" incentive from iBook to Powerbook. Think about it.
 
~Shard~ said:
One thing I find with Photoshop is, although it may be stupidly powerful and the industry leader, for the non-hardcore users it can be non-intuitive, overwhelming and difficult to figure things out in at times. Perhaps Apple sees this as an opportunity and wants to try and make their own "user-friendly version" of Photoshop.

Very true. I still use GraphicConverter for a lot of photo-related activities because A) the program is smaller and easier to work with and B) My Pismo would shoot itself in the head trying to run Photoshop. Even when I get a new PB next week (PLEASE STEVE), I will probably still use GC just 'cause I'm used to it and because the PS interface is wicked complex. I'm not a pro-user, so GC works ok for my needs. Maybe an Apple pro photo application would hit that sweet spot in the middle? We'll have to see.
 
javiercr said:
It clearly has to be this..

Mac mini Pro Edition
Dual Core G5 2.5 Gz
Liquid metal cooled, Silent operation
PCI-e radeon x800 128Mb
dual DVI outputs
TV tuner and Frontview + remote

and of course, to reduce costs, it will be shipped in the remaining boxes from the 1.42 Mac minis :)

Liquid metal cooled? The russians already tried that with their nuclear subs to get them powered. It wasn't pretty. Other than that, go mini pro!
:D
 
Lacero said:
I don't think knowing one's own hardware is enough to compete against the deep feature set of Photoshop. We are talking more than just painting pixels and moving around layers. Photoshop is deep, deep, deep. It would take Apple an Herculean effort to get people to move away from their competitor's software that is the cornerstone of their livelihood.

As for FCP, it's from the same engineering team that created Premiere. Consider FCP as Premiere 2.0. Premiere was such a lame duck of an editing program, any competing video editing app would have trounced it easily.

If Apple introduced a photoshop competitior, it'd be company suicide no matter how good or innovative the product is. Adobe/Macromedia would discontinue their Mac products. Companies would have to switch to windows PCs for compatilbity reasons. If Apple wants such a product, they should see what it would take to bring Adobe into the Apple fold.

javiercr said:
It clearly has to be this..

Mac mini Pro Edition
Dual Core G5 2.5 Gz
Liquid metal cooled, Silent operation
PCI-e radeon x800 128Mb
dual DVI outputs
TV tuner and Frontview + remote

and of course, to reduce costs, it will be shipped in the remaining boxes from the 1.42 Mac minis :)

Or a big brother to the Mini. Think Cube 2.0 with similar specs to the iMac.
 
Bluetooth Mighty Mouse

Along with some imminent upgrades to the PM (and possibly the PB), we might also finally see a bt mighty.
 
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