This is talking about the 16” MacBook Pro that launched in June sporting an updated 5600m GPU. The 2019 revision only went to 5500m
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Apple References Unreleased 2020 16-Inch MacBook Pro in Boot Camp Update
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The cooling design would have been fine for the cpus that Intel promised but never delivered.
This news is focusing on the wrong aspect of the Bootcamp update (especially since there's probably no new Intel MBP coming).
"Improves audio recording quality when using built-in microphone" is what actually matters: Bootcamp had a long-running bug where mic sound would deteriorate after 10-15 minutes of calling to the point of making you inaudible to others.
This is a dealbreaker for anyone using Bootcamp for work in these times when we're all doing calls on Teams, Zoom, Slack... all day long.
Only workaround was to use a USB mic.
This is now fixed!
"Improves audio recording quality when using built-in microphone" is what actually matters: Bootcamp had a long-running bug where mic sound would deteriorate after 10-15 minutes of calling to the point of making you inaudible to others.
This is a dealbreaker for anyone using Bootcamp for work in these times when we're all doing calls on Teams, Zoom, Slack... all day long.
Only workaround was to use a USB mic.
This is now fixed!
What, like the 2020 MBA with no heat pipe at all? So the fan churns at the slightest bit of CPU usage. Making it utterly pointless to spend your money on anything other than the base CPU.
Yes, exactly like that. The reason there is no heat pipe is because the roadmap Intel gave Apple two years earlier wouldn’t have required one.
Uhmmm. The 16” MacBook Pro technically had a minor refresh in May with the addition of the Radeon 5600M. It’s an additional 800 dollars and a core feature not available on prior machines. They could call it the MacBook Pro 16 2020 (1st half). Now who knows whether they will announce a new one in November.
I’d be surprised mostly due to supply chain challenges that currently persist.
I’d be surprised mostly due to supply chain challenges that currently persist.
If only folks would read the prior posts before saying the same thing someone else said 15 times already, and debunked at least that many times to boot. Sorry, just venting.
Here’s the link again:
Apple announces Mac transition to Apple silicon
Apple today announced it will transition the Mac to its custom silicon to deliver industry-leading performance and powerful new technologies.www.apple.com
I am really curious what all the people complaining about not being able to do real work feel will be missing?
Every single tool I use is expected to be available from the start, including Xcode, BBEdit, Drafts, Photoshop, Lightroom and Microsoft Office.
I transitioned from 68k to PPC and from PPC to Intel on day one. It was fine, both times.
Sure, the MacOS 9 to Mac OS X transition was a little rocky. However, dual-booting, and later the Classic environment, ironed that out well enough, so it was fine too.
the lack of virtualization capability for intel based os's like windows and some flavors of linux is a deal breaker for me. I really hope this is a a hint we'll get one more refresh. I plan to upgrade to it, to postpone the time when I have to either switch to, or buy a separate, windows machine. Ironically it was exactly the move away from ppc and to intel that allowed macs to penetrate the corporate market. This move will reverse that trend...there's a ton of niche windows software that will never be ported to macOS.
for recreation, this is essentially the end of major titles on macs...they already don't port to macOS natively because of a small user base, and definitely won't bother porting to a completely different architecture. Losing both boot camp and virtualization, renders the bulk of most game libraries useless.
apples misreading the impact, because most corporate it departments disable telemetry, so they don't get use data. Unless they have some magic up their sleeve like a thunderbolt 4 intel compute module (emulation won't cut it for these kinds of workloads), the end of using a Mac is in sight.
Doesn't matter if the software is written for intel. Emulation will more than negate the cpu speed advantage (if it works at all), and absolutely doesn't matter if it only runs on windows.
Maybe we'll get lucky and Apple will come out and say 'this is the last 16" intel machine. Come and get it now while you can'
With AMD set to announce 'Big Navi' on October 28, could we also see a 6000 series mobile GPU suitable for a decent bump in the MacBook Pro 16 later this week, possibly 10th Gen Intel and AMD RDNA2 6000 series GPU? 1080p FaceTime and nano-texture display options would be nice too.
Nobody gives a crap about windows on mac. If you want a windows machine, buy one. They’re like a hundred bucks.
And rosetta on a14m will still be faster than running native on most intel macs. And eventually anything that matters will be ported.
I assume this means either, A) they are referencing the 5600M MacBook Pro as a 2020 model (but my 5600M is clearly labeled a "MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2019)") or B) we are getting a 10th gen chipset and perhaps an updated webcam and a better security chip. I don't know if a new graphics set will be widely available enough by then or not to be included.
I am curious about this as well. Assuming we are going to see an updated MacBook Pro 16 in 2020, I think the question lies on whether or not AMD had sufficient supply when production of this updated 16-inch began, which I assume has already occurred if we are seeing a release in the next two months.
Autocad. Solidworks. Visual studio.
my last company had tens of thousands of people running windows on Mac.
That’s a dumb way to spend money. If you need tens of thousands of people to run windows software, the mac is not the best hardware for doing that, and it‘s certainly not the most cost-effective.
Please speak for yourself, I like many others absolute need windows for applications such as CAD, this would not run effectively on a cheap laptop, I want apple build quality and the option to use Mac OS, boot camp is a perfect compromise, I can see from other forums I’m not alone.
The windows market is still massive compared to Mac, the idea that “everything that matter will be ported” in unrealistic to put it politely, many small apps never get a Mac equivalent.
I’m going to be applying the VRM mod when I get a chance as many people say this fixes throttling issues.
For those who aren’t aware, these chips, which mostly sit at the top-centre of the logic board above the CPU and GPU, are passively cooled only and aren’t connected to a heat sync or heat pipe to active cooling. Many people suspect they overheat as a result.
It’s hard to know whether this is just cost-cutting/laziness or a deliberate decision to cripple performance; or of course, both!
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There may be an incoming 2020 refresh, but Apple often does make mistakes on its pages for things like that.
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The 2 year conversion might mean that the last Intel-based Mac will be released 2 years from June 2020, not that the full lineup will be ARM...
So true. Some people really think their iPhone processor is a server chip with very limited thermals, when much of the impressive performance is down to dedicated hardware and APIs specifically addressing those.