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Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
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Everything yes. #9 has been listed as a component of Centrino Santa Rosa, its a good bet that if its easy to impelment it will happen. #7 though. HD isight....AppliedVisual said:
..... yeah have you seen the size of HD lens on portable camcorder. Plus just the cost. And itd be worthless, you wouldn't be able to transmit over iChat an HD quality feed because you don't have enought bit rate over the internet. So.... WHATS THE POINT?
Chef Medeski said:#7 though. HD isight....
Intranet calls? I work on a large university campus that is made up of over 30 buildings. It would be amazing if I could do HD iChats to people all over the campus from my own office (our entire university network is gigabit).
So, I think HD iChat is a perfectly valid desire, although it has next to no chance of being implemented since the target market is so small.
Chef Medeski said:Everything yes. #9 has been listed as a component of Centrino Santa Rosa, its a good bet that if its easy to impelment it will happen. #7 though. HD isight....
There are currently notebooks out there with 1.3 to 1.6 Megapixel cameras built in. My cell phone that fits in my pocket does 2Mpixel. Go look at Dell.com - 1.3Megapixel. 1280x720 HD is less than 1 Megapixel. I never said the quality would be great, I just said HD resolution... Apple is actually behind in this regard.
And what do you mean there's not enough bitrate over the internet for HD? I transfer HD res video all the time. You can stream HD res versions of the Apple commercials (or close to it) right off of their home page and they only need about 1Mbps. H.264 and VC1 are capable of transmitting 1080i/p HD res video with superior compression/quality vs. HDV in about 3 to 5 Mbps. I have a 10Mbps connection at my house for < $35/month after all taxes. Sure, lots of people still without decent broadband, but iSight does more than jsut video webchat. You can create video blogs and other downloadable media.
maverick808 said:
Eaxactly... A prime example of what it could be used for. And why do you say it wouldn't be implemented? Dell already 1.3Mpixel cameras built into some of their notebooks.
Very excited...I've been lurking the forums for the past 2 months awaiting the updates. So here it is, proud new owner:
MBPRO 15/2.33 CTO
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM-2x1GB
160GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
SuperDrive 6X
15" Widescreen Display
BkLit Keyboard/Mac OS
Country Kit
Estimated Shipped By: November 1st
Estimated Delivery Date: November 8th
I'll now be selling my pristine Powerbook G4 on ebay...
MBPRO 15/2.33 CTO
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM-2x1GB
160GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
SuperDrive 6X
15" Widescreen Display
BkLit Keyboard/Mac OS
Country Kit
Estimated Shipped By: November 1st
Estimated Delivery Date: November 8th
I'll now be selling my pristine Powerbook G4 on ebay...
In the US HE store I'm still seeing this under the configuration page:
" AppleCare Protection Plan (APP)
The AppleCare Protection Plan extends your computer's 90 days of complimentary support and one-year warranty to up to three years of world-class support."
No mention of the 3 year standard warranty. Where would it be located?
" AppleCare Protection Plan (APP)
The AppleCare Protection Plan extends your computer's 90 days of complimentary support and one-year warranty to up to three years of world-class support."
No mention of the 3 year standard warranty. Where would it be located?
Zic said:
I'm jealous.... I went for a BTO 160gb. Should be here by 7 Nov.
Just out of interest when did you order and did it originally say 4 days to ship?
I thought all the normal 15" configarations were ready to ship in 4 days and the BTO ones 5 days.
hard drive performance
I love it when people try to make themselves feel their 5400 rpm drives are as fast as a 7200 rpm drive because Applications load faster or something like that. People should remember that OSX is a UNIX system, and any UNIX system worth its salt caches all sorts of files to RAM. Those shared libraries aren't being loaded every time.. they're staying put. They're already loaded by the time you boot up. At least, the needed parts are. (OSX uses dynamic runtime binding. Which I hate, btw.) The only way to compare drive speeds is to do a real random read/write benchmark.
Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but http://www.barefeats.com/5472.html
Bottom line is that the 7200s can sustain an overall higher throughput but you may and may not notice differences when doing random stuff. I ordered my new MBP with the 7200 rpm drive because I like to go the fastest I can and never seem to have more than 50 gigs used up at any time.
I love it when people try to make themselves feel their 5400 rpm drives are as fast as a 7200 rpm drive because Applications load faster or something like that. People should remember that OSX is a UNIX system, and any UNIX system worth its salt caches all sorts of files to RAM. Those shared libraries aren't being loaded every time.. they're staying put. They're already loaded by the time you boot up. At least, the needed parts are. (OSX uses dynamic runtime binding. Which I hate, btw.) The only way to compare drive speeds is to do a real random read/write benchmark.
Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but http://www.barefeats.com/5472.html
Bottom line is that the 7200s can sustain an overall higher throughput but you may and may not notice differences when doing random stuff. I ordered my new MBP with the 7200 rpm drive because I like to go the fastest I can and never seem to have more than 50 gigs used up at any time.
camking said:
I ordered it yesterday at 15:27 GMT+1 over the telephone with HE discount. I was told by the guy I spoke to that if I ordered over the phone he would mark it as a priority order, despite the 4 day wait as displayed on the website.
edit: wrong order time. fixed.
i am going to go for the stock 17" + applecare when it gets into the stores next week; no 7-10 business days + shipping wait time for me. hopefully.
tho if they have the 15" with the 160GB hard drive in the store i might consider that. im still wishywashy on which one.
BTW, will they take a check or cash in the apple retail stores? or just credit cards + money orders?
tho if they have the 15" with the 160GB hard drive in the store i might consider that. im still wishywashy on which one.
BTW, will they take a check or cash in the apple retail stores? or just credit cards + money orders?
I signed up for the ADC student membership yesterday and ordered this morning (since my membership said verified). I'm excited, free Leopard and new lappy!
I ordered yesterday, 17" said 7-10 days, but my order page said estimated ship-date is Nov 7, so I'm hoping that's just a pessimistic estimate. And seeing how some people's machines seems to have shipped despite later estimates, I'm even more hopeful.
camking said:
I was kept busy yesterday, unable to place my order until late last night, and also did a BTO (glossy, 160GB HD, USB modem) with "3-5 day shipping" (it was "2-4 day" before doing any BTO changes) - mine will also ship 10/31, and arrive 11/7. I'm hoping that it ships earlier/quicker, as has happened with several Apple orders in the past!
Don't know how I'm going to wait 13 days .... but I've been scouring these forums since August, waiting for C2D, so it's already like a weight's been lifted from my shoulders, just being able to order and having the date set!!!
iBorg
When I ordered from the UK HE store there was no mention of this 3 year warranty, I nearly payed £220 for apple care. Very glad to hear that this comes for free
I don't care if I don't have phone support too much..... I can always come on here if I have any questions
Wouldn't feel to bad if you don't get the same deal in the US.. we pay more here to start with so apple can probably afford to give us more discount/extras
I don't care if I don't have phone support too much..... I can always come on here if I have any questions
Wouldn't feel to bad if you don't get the same deal in the US.. we pay more here to start with so apple can probably afford to give us more discount/extras
802.11n not determined yet
True enough. But Intel is the 500 pound gorilla in this market chip wise. Intel and Apple are both on the steering group. There is an interim spec and process to qualify hardware to "hope" for future compatibility.
Heck, look how long the world has been stuck staying backward compatible with 80386!!
Sooo... whatever Intel and Mac come out with will at least be probably future compatible with OTHER brands of hardware, and at the minimum will be compatible with the wide range of hardware involved in the In-Ap nexus.
So buy with confidence. They need us to adopt their version of the pre-standard.
Someone asked why some chips are different speeds.
They are all made on the same dies. They are all assembled and tested. Some test as "capable" of higher clock speeds than others. Sort of a super QC standard group among the many. Those become the 3.0 Ghz chips. Then there is a layering of test results going down. On the low end you may get some 2.16Ghz chips that are actually quite able to run at 2.66 or 3 Ghz. Hence the fad of "overclocking". Many PC folks and even some Mac folks do that.
But Intel "certifies" a chip up to a certain speed. Above that slight defects in the mask result in local heating issues like a toaster element.
Rocketman
True enough. But Intel is the 500 pound gorilla in this market chip wise. Intel and Apple are both on the steering group. There is an interim spec and process to qualify hardware to "hope" for future compatibility.
Heck, look how long the world has been stuck staying backward compatible with 80386!!
Sooo... whatever Intel and Mac come out with will at least be probably future compatible with OTHER brands of hardware, and at the minimum will be compatible with the wide range of hardware involved in the In-Ap nexus.
So buy with confidence. They need us to adopt their version of the pre-standard.
Someone asked why some chips are different speeds.
They are all made on the same dies. They are all assembled and tested. Some test as "capable" of higher clock speeds than others. Sort of a super QC standard group among the many. Those become the 3.0 Ghz chips. Then there is a layering of test results going down. On the low end you may get some 2.16Ghz chips that are actually quite able to run at 2.66 or 3 Ghz. Hence the fad of "overclocking". Many PC folks and even some Mac folks do that.
But Intel "certifies" a chip up to a certain speed. Above that slight defects in the mask result in local heating issues like a toaster element.
Rocketman
camking said:
On the main UK HE store page there is a tab on the right of the page that has the warranty details.